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14 Jan 2008, 4:43 pm

^^^

That's perfect.


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14 Jan 2008, 4:53 pm

No need. I sent off that draft message after making modification's, and she replied with a lot more enthusiasm. :D

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Maybe i do know some of them oooooooooo! would be a little weeeird!!

As for my hobbies, well i dont get much spare time and as i work nights all my spare time is at like 3am on my days off, so my hobbies are mainly computer based!

I lurve top gear! its hilarious!! Sadly my car got written off by an old man in tesco car park back in November so im sharing my mums at the moment. Do you drive?

caz xx


My guess is she was not expecting a long first message and got a little worried, so im taking it easy on here.



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14 Jan 2008, 4:54 pm

That looks really positive!


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14 Jan 2008, 5:02 pm

What im positive about is that she comes from a place in England i visit frequently and where I have loads of friends too. I was also going to do my Uni Placement year in the same spot, when do you think I should bring the latter up?



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14 Jan 2008, 5:05 pm

Topher wrote:
My guess is she was not expecting a long first message and got a little worried, so im taking it easy on here.



For an initial message, it may have been a bit long. A short and simple first message might be best for first messages in the future. Then if she shows interest, you can put a little more thought into future messages.

In the future, try something like this:

"Hi. I'm Chris. I read your profile and think we have a lot in common. If you'd like to chat, send me a message. I saw that you are interested in X, and I'd like to hear more about it. Have a good night."



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14 Jan 2008, 5:14 pm

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What im positive about is that she comes from a place in England i visit frequently and where I have loads of friends too. I was also going to do my Uni Placement year in the same spot, when do you think I should bring the latter up?


Take it one step at a time. Don't even worry about it until she sends you another message. In the mean time, look for a couple more girls that you would be interested in and send them a short and simple message. Dating is a numbers game. Even the most charming and handsome person has to weed through a bunch of people before finding someone that is truly compatible. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket so early on. You should go on at least a couple of dates before you even consider focusing on just 1 girl.



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14 Jan 2008, 5:21 pm

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What im positive about is that she comes from a place in England i visit frequently and where I have loads of friends too. I was also going to do my Uni Placement year in the same spot, when do you think I should bring the latter up?


Take it one step at a time. Don't even worry about it until she sends you another message. In the mean time, look for a couple more girls that you would be interested in and send them a short and simple message. Dating is a numbers game. Even the most charming and handsome person has to weed through a bunch of people before finding someone that is truly compatible. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket so early on. You should go on at least a couple of dates before you even consider focusing on just 1 girl.


Yeah, im making sure that stays in my head and I don;t go flying off into cloud 9 at the first mention of a girl whos replied :) I realise i need to dig in deep and persist in all this. It's been fantastic having you guys around to talk to about this. I will keep on rolling and I will keep updating if I need any help. :)



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14 Jan 2008, 5:39 pm

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What im positive about is that she comes from a place in England i visit frequently and where I have loads of friends too. I was also going to do my Uni Placement year in the same spot, when do you think I should bring the latter up?


Take it one step at a time. Don't even worry about it until she sends you another message. In the mean time, look for a couple more girls that you would be interested in and send them a short and simple message. Dating is a numbers game. Even the most charming and handsome person has to weed through a bunch of people before finding someone that is truly compatible. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket so early on. You should go on at least a couple of dates before you even consider focusing on just 1 girl.


Yeah, im making sure that stays in my head and I don;t go flying off into cloud 9 at the first mention of a girl whos replied :) I realise i need to dig in deep and persist in all this. It's been fantastic having you guys around to talk to about this. I will keep on rolling and I will keep updating if I need any help. :)


Cool! I'm glad to help. I think I've had some pretty good success with meeting women online. I've gone on several dates with girls on match.com, and a few years ago I met a girl and we were together for a year and a half. I met two different girls on myspace. One that turned into a really great bootie call and another that didn't last very long, but I was literally having sex with this smoking hot girl within an hour after meeting her in person.



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14 Jan 2008, 7:05 pm

LVBen wrote:
Topher wrote:
LVBen wrote:
Topher wrote:
What im positive about is that she comes from a place in England i visit frequently and where I have loads of friends too. I was also going to do my Uni Placement year in the same spot, when do you think I should bring the latter up?


Take it one step at a time. Don't even worry about it until she sends you another message. In the mean time, look for a couple more girls that you would be interested in and send them a short and simple message. Dating is a numbers game. Even the most charming and handsome person has to weed through a bunch of people before finding someone that is truly compatible. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket so early on. You should go on at least a couple of dates before you even consider focusing on just 1 girl.


Yeah, im making sure that stays in my head and I don;t go flying off into cloud 9 at the first mention of a girl whos replied :) I realise i need to dig in deep and persist in all this. It's been fantastic having you guys around to talk to about this. I will keep on rolling and I will keep updating if I need any help. :)


Cool! I'm glad to help. I think I've had some pretty good success with meeting women online. I've gone on several dates with girls on match.com, and a few years ago I met a girl and we were together for a year and a half. I met two different girls on myspace. One that turned into a really great bootie call and another that didn't last very long, but I was literally having sex with this smoking hot girl within an hour after meeting her in person.


All the girls I've met through myspace have turned out to be frauds,as is I'm thinking of deleting my myspace account because I'm getting fed up with all of these spammers wanting to show off their nude photographs all the time.

I tried setting my profile to private recently in the hopes that these obscene friend requests would stop but so far no luck.



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14 Jan 2008, 7:26 pm

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All the girls I've met through myspace have turned out to be frauds,as is I'm thinking of deleting my myspace account because I'm getting fed up with all of these spammers wanting to show off their nude photographs all the time.

I tried setting my profile to private recently in the hopes that these obscene friend requests would stop but so far no luck.


I think it is pretty easy to tell the fake ones from the real ones on MySpace, so I've never had a problem. One very easy way is to just look at their friends list. If they have 4,946 friends and they are all men, it is probably a fake account. Also, look at their comments and their top friends. If a lot of the comments are from people on their top friends list saying things that friends would really say to each other (like: "that was fun last night, we should do it again sometime" or "I can't wait 'til this weekend"), they are probably real. If they have webcam ads on their page, they are probably fake.



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14 Jan 2008, 10:58 pm

Just in case any of you were curious, here is one of my very recent adventures in online dating!


She wrote to me first:

Lisa wrote:
Hi there,

So I read your profile and saw we had some things in common and wanted to see maybe if you were interested in chatting. My favorite place I have traveled so far is Venice as well, was just there in October and going back in May. Have never been snowboarding but keep telling my friends I want to learn. I also have lived here my whole life. If you would like to chat let me know. Have a good weekend.

Lisa


Ben wrote:
Hi Lisa,

From reading your profile, it does appear that we have a lot in common. It seems like you might travel even more than me. Of the other favorite cities on your list, I've only been to one other. I just went to San Francisco a few weeks ago. I've never been to Hawaii, but I really want to go. I have lots of bonus miles, so I need to use some up. Maybe I'll use them to go to there someday soon. I've never really traveled to New York, just a layover in JFK airport. I know Venice is cool, but why are you going back so soon instead of traveling somewhere else? I see that you are taking criminal justice classes? Are you working towards another degree or just planning a career move or something else? Snowboarding is a lot of fun! Have you ever skied? I've gone with a bunch of people for their first times snowboarding and some of them hated it and some of them really liked it. It is very similar to wakeboarding (if you've ever done any), though the weather is usually a bit nicer when wakeboarding. What kind of movies do you like?

TTYL
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Lisa wrote:
Hi there,

Hope you had a good weekend. My days off are actually Monday and Tuesday so I am super thrilled it is now officially my weekend. So to answer some of your questions... I am going with one of my friends in May on vacation we are going on a cruise through the Greek Islands. The cruise starts out of Venice and since my friend has never been and it is my favorite place we decided to spend a day and night there before getting on the ship. I went to Hawaii years ago with my family and reallly loved it and would be very happy to go back sometime. I was taking some criminal justice classes just for interest purposes. I have never been skiing, to be honest I havent really been around snow much. I love to wakeboard and am pretty decent at it. My friends keep promising me every year we will go snowboarding and that they will teach me but we never get to go. I know it will be hard and from what I hear painful but I am determined and think I would really like it. I love movies, my favorite are mystery/suspense. I really like a good murder suspensful movie, but am pretty much open to most movies except science fiction. So how about yourself? Favorite places to go in Vegas? What side of town do you live on? Favorite things to do on your weekend?

Have a good night,

Lisa


Ben wrote:
Well, I hope you are having a good weekend. When I went to Venice, it was on a cruise of the Mediterranean that started in Venice and ended in Barcelona, and we spent two extra days in Venice. Did you go to the Doge’s Palace when you were there last time? That was one of the coolest places there. We did the Secret Itinerary Tour and they showed us some of the rooms that have restricted public access, like the torture chambers, jail cells, armory/attic, and more. If you haven’t done it yet and you get a chance to while you are there, you should check it out.
Snowboarding came pretty naturally to me, but some people do have a hard time, but if you can wakeboard decently, you should be able to snowboard without any problems. It can definitely be painful, even for good snowboarders like me sometimes, but it is worth it.
I like pretty much all genres of movies. I don’t even mind the occasional chick flick. I used to live in Henderson, but I just bought a house in the southwest, and I’m still learning about what stores/restaurants are in the vicinity. I don’t really have any favorite places in Vegas that I haven’t already mentioned. I like to do a wide variety of things and try new things, so I don’t really go to the same places over and over again like some people. In the last couple of months, my weekends have been very diverse. My various weekend activities include, in no particular order, snowboarding, watching football, Christmas shopping, shopping for myself, flying to Oakland/San Francisco, wine and cheese tasting with friends, putting together furniture, moving, laying in bed with a cold, laying in bed with a hangover, watching movies, bowling, playing poker, and probably a lot more things I can’t think of right now.

If you’d like to chat some more, maybe we could chat on the phone. What is your phone number?

-Ben


Lisa wrote:
Hi,

Hmm I wondering if you went on the same cruise that I recently went on. I went with my family and we spent a couple days in Rome which included tour of the colesseum, private tour of the Vatican and the Sisteenth Chapel, we even got to see the Pope. Anyways, afterwards we went on a cruise to Venice, Barcelona, Sicily, Cannes, Croatia, Florence, and a few more cities in Italy. Have not been to the Doge's Palace but everyone keeps telling me to go.
My friends and I have poker nights often, I am even getting at least in my opinion pretty decent. I really enjoy wine but unfortunately I am the only one of my friends who is into the wine tasting thing. My various weekend activities include..working my second job, taking dogs to park, movies, dinner and drinks with friends, shopping, sleeping a little later, poker nights, occasional nights out dancing, dinner with family. I like a good chick flick as well, but rather watch it by myself then trying to get a guy who doesnt like them to watch them. I enjoy watching football especially college football. Okay so I have some fun laundry to do so chat with you later. My number is ###-####. Have a good night.


I called her. She didn’t answer the first time. I called a second time about a half hour later and she didn’t answer again, so I left a message and said “Hi Lisa. This is Ben. I just wanted to call and say hi and maybe chat a little. Call me back if you’d like at ###-####.”

Lisa wrote:
Hi there,

I got your phone message and wanted to get back to you but did not want to call you as I have no idea how late you go to sleep. Sorry I did not get back to you earlier, I have the flu bug that is going around and havent been doing much but sleeping, sleeping, and more sleeping. Hope we can chat tomorrow. Have a good night.


Ben wrote:
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I've been pretty busy. I'm going snowboarding tomorrow, but if I'm not too tired, I'll give you a call tomorrow night. Ciao!

-Ben



I called her the next night (last night) and we chatted a bit. Since we were both born in Las Vegas, we ended up talking about which schools we went to. It turns out that we went to the same high school and she graduated two years before me. Then she said she had a younger brother that graduated at the same time as me, and she asked me if I knew him and told me his name. Holy %*#@ing @!#*! Not only did I know, but I knew him well, and because of my aspieness, never got along with him. The call lasted for about 15 seconds longer when we both agreed to hang up the phone!



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15 Jan 2008, 7:37 am

Topher
I am much disturbed that you are posting peoples private emails from dating sites on here
it is very unethical
They have posted to you and not for others to see!
I would be most angry if I found you had posted something I have writen to you on another site.
girls do not like men to gossip about them behind there back!! !!
if you have a problem with what some one writes on a dating site ask them for more clarification- dont cut and paste their message!



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15 Jan 2008, 11:11 am

lotusblossom wrote:
Topher
I am much disturbed that you are posting peoples private emails from dating sites on here
it is very unethical
They have posted to you and not for others to see!
I would be most angry if I found you had posted something I have writen to you on another site.
girls do not like men to gossip about them behind there back!! !!
if you have a problem with what some one writes on a dating site ask them for more clarification- dont cut and paste their message!


I agree with you Lotusblossom,also if you're meeting ladies on POF it's actually against their TOS(terms of service) to give out contact info such as phone #'s or street addresses for safety reasons.

Most of the people I've dealt with on myspace have used the classic "I'll show you my pics that myspace won't allow" routine....it's probably the same person setting up multiple accounts just using different names each time.

Now I'm still waiting for the one gal I contacted on POF to respond back to my message from yesterday,I'm suprised she hasn't checked her messages yet however if I do get lucky a major problem arises....since I don't drive(medical restrictions) & due to my AS & depression am currently unemployed how do I get around this with her or anyone else?Most ladies expect their dates to at least be employed after all.



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15 Jan 2008, 5:21 pm

lotusblossom wrote:
Topher
I am much disturbed that you are posting peoples private emails from dating sites on here
it is very unethical
They have posted to you and not for others to see!
I would be most angry if I found you had posted something I have writen to you on another site.
girls do not like men to gossip about them behind there back!! !!
if you have a problem with what some one writes on a dating site ask them for more clarification- dont cut and paste their message!



Bah! That's ridiculous. At this point, they are almost complete strangers. If she says anything too private before they ever even meet in person, then she is a moron. I don't think anyone should be posting addresses or phone numbers or anything that would hurt anyone, but who cares about the initial chit-chat? And if we followed your rule, then no one would ever post anything that anyone has ever said that wasn't in public media.



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15 Jan 2008, 5:38 pm

well, I go on dating sites and on here and if people who have been writing to you read what you have said, they might not be very happy and it might give a new impression of you.



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15 Jan 2008, 5:40 pm

lotusblossom wrote:
well, I go on dating sites and on here and if people who have been writing to you read what you have said, they might not be very happy and it might give a new impression of you.


Probably, but I doubt they'll ever see it.