Monogamy is a bad system to Humans

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23 Jan 2008, 4:12 pm

Nope, not a chance!! !! !! !! !! ! Love will rule just wait and see. One day you will find someone and you will be back on here posting a thread that I was right. I'm waiting for that day. :)


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23 Jan 2008, 10:46 pm

LMAO

And here I was thinking the world was ruled by truck lovin', drunk rednecks with shotguns....

Oh wait... yeah... Bush and Cheney.


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23 Jan 2008, 10:56 pm

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Nope, not a chance!! !! !! !! !! ! Love will rule just wait and see. One day you will find someone and you will be back on here posting a thread that I was right. I'm waiting for that day. :)


I'm really thinking that's a 30's and 40's thing, once people get a bit older, realize they aren't going to be around forever, and their egos subside a little. Though for the most part, aside from the times when people just have luck, it's probably going to come down to hitting that range for a lot of people.



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24 Jan 2008, 3:45 pm

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Nope, not a chance!! !! !! !! !! ! Love will rule just wait and see. One day you will find someone and you will be back on here posting a thread that I was right. I'm waiting for that day. :)


It won't happen.

Besides , my imaginary system doesn't banish 'love' , my imaginary system is only genetically polygamous but it's socially monogamous , which it means that ppl can still live as couple , can still have safe sex (with no breeding) together , can still live as husband and wife and as parents of children.



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24 Jan 2008, 3:57 pm

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Yes, I have a son that is 15 and has type one diabetes. And I wouldn't trade him for anything else in the world. I wish he didn't have it, but it doesn't make him any less of a person.


So you prefer that your son doesn't have the genes responsible for diabetes. Don't you wish the probability in the world of having babies with diabetes to be much less?



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25 Jan 2008, 12:03 am

My problem: How many alpha males will have hidden recessive genes?

EVERYONE has recessive genes that will crop up and bite us on the backside eventually.

I know for a fact that my bf would be an alpha male. Strong, athletic, aspie (how cool is that?), excellent eyesight (he can see stuff in the distance even I can't!), highly intelligent. However, at birth, he was premature, he couldn't speak until he was six, was born with NO motor skills (And yet his motor skills now are fairly good).

Gah, I did the jumping topic thing again. :( I thought I had control of that.


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25 Jan 2008, 12:22 am

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My problem: How many alpha males will have hidden recessive genes?

EVERYONE has recessive genes that will crop up and bite us on the backside eventually.

I know for a fact that my bf would be an alpha male. Strong, athletic, aspie (how cool is that?), excellent eyesight (he can see stuff in the distance even I can't!), highly intelligent. However, at birth, he was premature, he couldn't speak until he was six, was born with NO motor skills (And yet his motor skills now are fairly good).

Gah, I did the jumping topic thing again. :( I thought I had control of that.


No, perfectly on point. You could have an NT alpha male, just as easily carry the same genes. The same slight bit of aspie could even make him the hyper intelligent type, kinda like our one friend, who's as much of a fighter and a metal-head and a champion alcohol drinker as he is a hell of a chess player and a philosopher on the deeper side of life (well, he's manic-depressive, not completely NT). Point being anyone who's interesting is usually carrying some kind of weight that made them who they are.



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25 Jan 2008, 12:26 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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My problem: How many alpha males will have hidden recessive genes?

EVERYONE has recessive genes that will crop up and bite us on the backside eventually.

I know for a fact that my bf would be an alpha male. Strong, athletic, aspie (how cool is that?), excellent eyesight (he can see stuff in the distance even I can't!), highly intelligent. However, at birth, he was premature, he couldn't speak until he was six, was born with NO motor skills (And yet his motor skills now are fairly good).

Gah, I did the jumping topic thing again. :( I thought I had control of that.


No, perfectly on point. You could have an NT alpha male, just as easily carry the same genes. The same slight bit of aspie could even make him the hyper intelligent type, kinda like our one friend, who's as much of a fighter and a metal-head and a champion alcohol drinker as he is a hell of a chess player and a philosopher on the deeper side of life (well, he's manic-depressive, not completely NT). Point being anyone who's interesting is usually carrying some kind of weight that made them who they are.


Thanks. I need to work on my linking sentences though LOL.


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25 Jan 2008, 12:32 am

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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My problem: How many alpha males will have hidden recessive genes?

EVERYONE has recessive genes that will crop up and bite us on the backside eventually.

I know for a fact that my bf would be an alpha male. Strong, athletic, aspie (how cool is that?), excellent eyesight (he can see stuff in the distance even I can't!), highly intelligent. However, at birth, he was premature, he couldn't speak until he was six, was born with NO motor skills (And yet his motor skills now are fairly good).

Gah, I did the jumping topic thing again. :( I thought I had control of that.


No, perfectly on point. You could have an NT alpha male, just as easily carry the same genes. The same slight bit of aspie could even make him the hyper intelligent type, kinda like our one friend, who's as much of a fighter and a metal-head and a champion alcohol drinker as he is a hell of a chess player and a philosopher on the deeper side of life (well, he's manic-depressive, not completely NT). Point being anyone who's interesting is usually carrying some kind of weight that made them who they are.


Thanks. I need to work on my linking sentences though LOL.


And I need to work on my huge block paragraphs - what of it. We all have our own vices.



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25 Jan 2008, 12:54 am

I just wanted you to know I thought you would find someone that you really loved and things would be different. I don't think you would like living with someone that had a couple of kids by someone else. (I know I wouldn't.) You seem to be a kind and intelligent person (what's so wrong that you don't want to have your own child?)

No, I wouldn't change my son. I'm not happy he has diabetes, but I would have never done anything that changed me having him. I even signed papers before he was born that if it came between my life and his they were to save the baby. I'm very pro-life!


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25 Jan 2008, 12:58 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
sands wrote:
Nope, not a chance!! !! !! !! !! ! Love will rule just wait and see. One day you will find someone and you will be back on here posting a thread that I was right. I'm waiting for that day. :)


I'm really thinking that's a 30's and 40's thing, once people get a bit older, realize they aren't going to be around forever, and their egos subside a little. Though for the most part, aside from the times when people just have luck, it's probably going to come down to hitting that range for a lot of people.


What a jaded and depressing view of love.



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25 Jan 2008, 2:45 pm

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I just wanted you to know I thought you would find someone that you really loved and things would be different.


No,it won't

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I don't think you would like living with someone that had a couple of kids by someone else. (I know I wouldn't.)


Why not? It is like marrying a young single mom today. Do you think that your aspie lover would hate to live with you and with your son?
Well, If my genes are bad and would have a very high probability of having ill children that will suffer during their lives ...then of course I would accept to raise an alpha's children as their social father.
I know many won't accept such thing because they are used to the monogamy standards , but if my imaginary system becomes a social standard then it will be accepted by everyone.

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You seem to be a kind and intelligent person


I am intelligent but not that kind. :P


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(what's so wrong that you don't want to have your own child?)


Personal reasons, my bloodline family are suffering from a lot of genetic diseases , my parents are far relatives and they shouldn't get married in the first place.
I witnessed and I lived the result of a bad combo of genes that has a high percentage of genetic diseases. This familial tragedy must be stopped.



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25 Jan 2008, 5:12 pm

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
sands wrote:
Nope, not a chance!! !! !! !! !! ! Love will rule just wait and see. One day you will find someone and you will be back on here posting a thread that I was right. I'm waiting for that day. :)


I'm really thinking that's a 30's and 40's thing, once people get a bit older, realize they aren't going to be around forever, and their egos subside a little. Though for the most part, aside from the times when people just have luck, it's probably going to come down to hitting that range for a lot of people.


What a jaded and depressing view of love.


Nah, unfortunately its more a jaded and depressing view of where most people's heads are at. Emotional maturity seems like its going out of style faster than perms.



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25 Jan 2008, 6:28 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
I know many won't accept such thing because they are used to the monogamy standards , but if my imaginary system becomes a social standard then it will be accepted by everyone.


Just like we, as aspies, accept and conform to all social standards?

Just like everyone conforms to the exact same social standards all over the world, all over your country, all over even your own street?



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25 Jan 2008, 11:07 pm

Okay, I'm not going to argue about this anymore. I'm going to just state exactly what I think (it's okay if you don't agree!) I do not see anything wrong with having Aspergers or HFA. The person I know that has it is a very beautiful person (and that has little to do with physical looks, although I do think he's good looking!) It would not have bothered me in the least to have been a parent to a child that had either of these on the spectrum. I'm very neurotypical. My life is based on faith, intuition and emotions. And if someone can accept my quirks and all what's so wrong with me accepting theirs? I'm 41 and not looking to have another child, but if I was I would not shy away from having one with someone that had aspergers. Neither would I be afraid of having a child with aspergers. I've never been the type of person that had to give birth to love a child. I would of been able to raise another person's child as my own. That being said, I really hate it when you think that you're not good enough to actually father a child. Yes, I'm talking to you Little Prince. If you had not been a really nice person you would not of tried to explain your feelings to me. That's another misunderstanding about people with aspergers. You guys have as many feelings as I do, but you just have trouble showing them. If you want to raise someone else's child then that's fine, but don't think that there's not someone out there that would be more than glad to have one that was created with you.


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25 Jan 2008, 11:40 pm

Why do i get the feeling that this has degenerated into an aspie version of a flamewar?