13 Apr 2009, 10:03 pm
hartzofspace
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13 Apr 2009, 10:57 pm
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Now, as for you ladies, as I recall, culturally, you don't ask out males.
Actually, I used to ask out males. I didn't see any reason why I shouldn't. But those males treated me with less respect, for some reason. Go figure.
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Girls aren't really putting themselves on the line, yes, they might be putting their emotions on the line, however, they are merely accepting an invitation. So from my perspective, the male has a lot more to loss than the female.
It may seem that way, but here's my original quote, from my own experience:
hartzofspace wrote:
In my younger years, I dated guys like this, and placed myself in extremely dangerous situations. Being unable to read the signs that signal a dangerously unbalanced man, makes me extremely cautious about who I hook up with. That is not being flaky, or being a tease, or whatever.
Women are at a disadvantage if the male decides to "punish" us for their rejection. I once had to ask my father to deal with a guy who, after one date, would not take no for an answer. Since my father was a cop, this guy was effectively stopped, but not until he had phoned me multiple times, and actually showed up at my home at 2 am, uninvited.
14 Apr 2009, 5:57 am
14 Apr 2009, 4:11 pm
hartzofspace wrote:
Actually, I used to ask out males. I didn't see any reason why I shouldn't. But those males treated me with less respect, for some reason. Go figure.
Well it is very infrequent and considered very bizarre for a girl to ask out a guy, culturally it is the other way around. There are rare exceptions though. However I would point out that asking out a guy is nothing more than presenting an offer, which almost ALL guys take up. However a guy will act according to his own internalized beliefs and values, so there is no guarantee that he will be a gentleman just because you asked him out.
hartzofspace wrote:
In my younger years, I dated guys like this, and placed myself in extremely dangerous situations. Being unable to read the signs that signal a dangerously unbalanced man, makes me extremely cautious about who I hook up with. That is not being flaky, or being a tease, or whatever.
Women are at a disadvantage if the male decides to "punish" us for their rejection. I once had to ask my father to deal with a guy who, after one date, would not take no for an answer. Since my father was a cop, this guy was effectively stopped, but not until he had phoned me multiple times, and actually showed up at my home at 2 am, uninvited.[/quote]
Well that certainly is a very, very bizarre case of rejection. The guy was probably a bit of a nut, I don't believe most guys would even go THAT far. Most guys who are rejected become disappointed, and then angry, but they don't go stalking girls afterwards. Why would you want to stalk a girl who has rejected you?
I think guys will only "punish" a girl while they are in the relationship, or if a gf breaks up with the guy, he might become emotionally unstable temporarily and end up doing something stupid and childish in his impaired judgment.
14 Apr 2009, 5:15 pm
Kilroy wrote:
Cyberman wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
yeah if i was a troll I'd probably have less then 10 000 posts 
So having a post count over 10,000 gives you trolling privileges?
no-I meant was-why would I start now?
I am not trolling-I am telling him he should be thankful for what he has
seriously-people never look at the things they have
he could be starving in some hovel fearing bombing raids or something
my whole point is-"is that people take everything they have for granted-they always want more"
not all support is sympathy and coddling
That's stupid. Lets go to an extreme for a second. A man gets stabbed and is dying. He is in terrible pain. At the same time, a father is being physically forced to stick pins in the eyes of his children. He is also slowly being killed at the same time. The former man is meant to suck it up because the other person is worse off than him. He's just whining.
Unhappiness, misery and pain are relative. I've seen many people say that sort of thing to others, and usually, as in this case, the person is using it to elevate themselves above the other person and prove their superiority.
Going back to the original post. I used to feel a lot of contempt for women. Then I realised the problem was not so much just women, but people in general. I've spent seventeen years of my life actively observing and pondering people's behaviour, and as far as I am concerned, there is no point in trying to turn the other cheek, because people will just hit you on that side as well.
If most other people are dicks, then I want my chance to be one too. Bugger trying to rise above it, because that gets you no where.
I don't think humanity is formed of twats exclusively -There are people I have met and lots of the people I see on this forum seem to be proof of that- but there sure are a lot of them. I got tired of being Mr. Nice and exploited.
hartzofspace
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14 Apr 2009, 10:24 pm
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
Actually, I used to ask out males. I didn't see any reason why I shouldn't. But those males treated me with less respect, for some reason. Go figure.
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Well it is very infrequent and considered very bizarre for a girl to ask out a guy, culturally it is the other way around. There are rare exceptions though. However I would point out that asking out a guy is nothing more than presenting an offer, which almost ALL guys take up. However a guy will act according to his own internalized beliefs and values, so there is no guarantee that he will be a gentleman just because you asked him out.
That is so true.
hartzofspace wrote:
In my younger years, I dated guys like this, and placed myself in extremely dangerous situations. Being unable to read the signs that signal a dangerously unbalanced man, makes me extremely cautious about who I hook up with. That is not being flaky, or being a tease, or whatever.
Women are at a disadvantage if the male decides to "punish" us for their rejection. I once had to ask my father to deal with a guy who, after one date, would not take no for an answer. Since my father was a cop, this guy was effectively stopped, but not until he had phoned me multiple times, and actually showed up at my home at 2 am, uninvited.
Women are at a disadvantage if the male decides to "punish" us for their rejection. I once had to ask my father to deal with a guy who, after one date, would not take no for an answer. Since my father was a cop, this guy was effectively stopped, but not until he had phoned me multiple times, and actually showed up at my home at 2 am, uninvited.
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Well that certainly is a very, very bizarre case of rejection. The guy was probably a bit of a nut, I don't believe most guys would even go THAT far. Most guys who are rejected become disappointed, and then angry, but they don't go stalking girls afterwards. Why would you want to stalk a girl who has rejected you?
Maybe he thought that I would become enamored of his caveman technique?
But seriously, it put me off dating for a long while. 
