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sly279
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11 Dec 2018, 7:06 pm

Marknis wrote:

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Aspie19828 wrote:

Australia and the USA have toxic masculine cultures that breed misogynistic views within society and reenforced by politicians and the media. Inward thinking backwards countries that have contempt for people that do not fit the image of the blonde haired, blued eyed ideal of perfection, ie Ken and Barbie. Europe and Asian countries are more accepting of differences and are far more tolerant than the ignorant Australian and American bogan/rednecks.

Australia and America are intolerant of differences and Europe and Asia embraces multiculturalism and diversity. Australian and American politicians and media reenforce the tough stance on immigration. Australian and American citizens support those views by electing governments that impose tough stances on immigration based on the paranoid fear of being different, ie an outsider.

Both Australian and Americans have the audacity to blame the outsiders and accuse them of misogyny and intolerance for not fitting in. Irony is a word that perfectly sums it up. Australians and Americans will not admit to being misogynist or intolerant, but they will call outsiders misogynistic and intolerant!

Which Asia?

Actually, East Asia (Korea) is the only place where I encountered full frontal open racism... Europeans are often hypocritical when it comes to other cultures, praising multiculturalism and then banning headscarves...
Sorry to blow your bubble but there is no paradise on the Earth.

Japan is pretty much all Japanes, I hear they aren’t that accepting of others especially Chinese.
I’ve also read Chinese restaurants treat Japanese people better then Chinese and see Chinese as trouble makers.

But then I’ve seen people say only white people and Japanese can be racist :roll:

I see more people being shocked to learn that there is racism not just in Japan but everywhere outside the US.

People I’ve talked to don’t acknowledge non white or Japanese racism. They say colored people can’t be racist
So that black person calling someone a cracker and killing them for being white isn’t racist.
Or if they do they call it reverse racism to make it sound good
There’s no such thing as reverse racism

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12 Dec 2018, 6:21 am

If you live in a country with a good welfare system and universal health care it is a good idea just to simply leech off society if you are a low value male. No dates ever and your college degrees(s) are not going to lead to high paying jobs and improve your value, it is better to just leech off society.

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12 Dec 2018, 6:27 am

magz wrote:

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Which Asia?

That was actually the point of my question, Asia is full of racism.

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12 Dec 2018, 6:38 am

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What a horrible thing to say. You're such a troll

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12 Dec 2018, 6:51 am

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A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

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13 Dec 2018, 1:22 am

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A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

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13 Dec 2018, 1:32 am

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A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

Ideally your dream job that pays a lot, or at least a job you can do comfortably that pays a lot.

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13 Dec 2018, 2:44 am

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314pe wrote:

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A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

Both are bad. Either you will be irritated after work or you will not be able to support your family.

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13 Dec 2018, 6:32 am

314pe wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

314pe wrote:

Aspie19828 wrote:

A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

Both are bad. Either you will be irritated after work or you will not be able to support your family.

This is why everyone should find some compromise, suiting their own balance of needs.
Even those lucky ones who get paid decently for what they like to do can be lured with higher salary for less enjoyable tasks or e.g. less freedom. In a family of engineers, I've seen men struggling with this dilemma more than once. TBH, it has very little to do with dating, all the examples I know had found their romantic partners earlier.

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13 Dec 2018, 10:03 am

magz wrote:

314pe wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

314pe wrote:

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A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

Both are bad. Either you will be irritated after work or you will not be able to support your family.

It's obvious that children provide a much greater motivation to improve job situation. Unlike romantic partners, they rarely can earn their living.

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13 Dec 2018, 10:10 am

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It's obvious that children provide a much greater motivation to improve job situation. Unlike romantic partners, they rarely can earn their living.

Sure, choosing to earn less but do what you love more when you have a non-working wife and 4 children is just about what you said.
Every family member involved supported that decision of this person.

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13 Dec 2018, 10:39 am

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It's obvious that children provide a much greater motivation to improve job situation. Unlike romantic partners, they rarely can earn their living.

Sure, choosing to earn less but do what you love more when you have a non-working wife and 4 children is just about what you said.
Every family member involved supported that decision of this person.

Are you implying that children motivate to earn less? Why would they?

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13 Dec 2018, 10:47 am

314pe wrote:

magz wrote:

314pe wrote:

It's obvious that children provide a much greater motivation to improve job situation. Unlike romantic partners, they rarely can earn their living.

Sure, choosing to earn less but do what you love more when you have a non-working wife and 4 children is just about what you said.
Every family member involved supported that decision of this person.

Are you implying that children motivate to earn less? Why would they?

In this particular case, this particular person preferred to follow his dreams at a cost of earning less. I guess having children had little to do with it.

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13 Dec 2018, 7:00 pm

314pe wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

314pe wrote:

Aspie19828 wrote:

A good job not only improves dating value (a lot), but also makes singleton life much more tolerable.

What's a good job though? A job you despise but pays a lot, or your dream job with modest pay?

Both are bad. Either you will be irritated after work or you will not be able to support your family.

According to women in my area and on social media a good job is one that pays over 22-25 an hour. One where you can afford a new car, house and to travel the world.

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13 Dec 2018, 7:17 pm

So what is the distinction between people who belong to self-identifying incel forums, which spew toxic misogyny, and just men who can never get a girlfriend due to being too shy or not making enough money ect? It seems to me that everyone just assumes that any chronically single man is an "incel". And if that is not the case, that who are people like me?

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