Claims that a few "super hot men" are hogging all the women

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Okay, well from the way you said that it seems like you expect men should be knowledgeable about female sexual pleasure by default. I'd think that most men would be interested in pleasuring their partners and would be open to suggestion, so if communication occurs and this gets rectified then there's not much of a reason to claim you're asexual unless you actually are.

Just because one communicates his or her desires doesn’t mean that it will lead to satisfying sex.


There’s no way that you can measure asexuality with any validity. You’re relying on self reporting only. I would’ve reported myself as being asexual during a long stretch of my life but I’m not. Female sexuality can be a complex force.

Men do need to have some knowledge to avoid hurting their partners, especially when the girl is inexperienced.

Last edited by TwilightPrincess on 23 Jun 2019, 9:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

Of course not. Your partner might not want to engage in the activity, you might not be able to explain it properly so he understands what to do and a million other reasons.

Not to mention that many NDs probably have no idea what kind of sex they find satisfying.



I would likewise claim I was asexual, even if I know I'm hypersexual. The reason for that is that I strongly dislike typical sex, and especially the part about learning positions and what satisfies typical women.

This only proves my point. Human sexuality (and not just female) is not at all as simple as we think.

It went well, will see her again on a Wednesday event.

No, it just causes dark circles under the eyes, hair to grow on the palms, and an increase in nervous behavior.

See? I know a few myths too!

Your post is as usual hostile, belittling, ridiculous and frankly ignorant.

Google porn-induced ED, there’s a growing number of studies (with mixed results) on the subject and you will find countless men telling how it was like before vs after quitting porn.

Here you go:
https://www.em-consulte.com/article/1074113

I agree with everything that TP said except for the part about abortion because I'm staunchly Pro-Life. Even though I disagree about abortion, I respect the opinion that she has about the topic.

The other thing is, I don't think that anybody is hogging anyone. I think that women are losing interest in sex. I think that most people are losing interest in sex regardless of what their genders are.

I think this is mostly right. Looking at a country like Japan where everyone is freaking out about how little the younger generation dates and has sex.

Read that sentence again and imagine how hilarious it would've been in the 60s.

Unfortunately, by the time I saw your post yesterday, I was no longer able to make edits to the original post. Had I been able to do so, I could perhaps have clarified that you didn't make the EXACT claim in question, but that I was quoting you because you provided statistics that might be used in support of that claim and similar claims. In various forms and to varying degrees, such claims HAVE been voiced by quite a few men on Wrong Planet and elsewhere. My point was to provide an alternate explanation of the statistics.


My point was not to accuse you of "not taking ownership" of anything, and I'm sorry that my post made you feel that way. I actually agree with you that it's important to look at the larger social trends. The question is what those trends really are, and why.


My aim was not to attack what you said, in particular, but to respond to a general theme I've been hearing a lot lately. I will try to be clearer about this sort of thing in the future.

Sometime later I'll respond to some of the particulars of what you said above. For now my aim is just to apologize and clarify.

the elites are truly out of touch ! ! ! per usual

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What do you mean?

Who are the elites?

Yeah I appreciate that and no harm done. Maybe in future you could either quote the stats themselves without quoting the member if the ideas you're critiquing aren't ones espoused by that member, or you could clarify that the idea you're criticritiquing is distinct from what that member said. I think a casual reader would be prone to link the ideas you're talking about to the member/s you're quoting is all

Please see my apology and clarifications here. I'll now respond to the substance of what you wrote.


Looking for statistics regarding dating apps, I found:

- 27 Online Dating Statistics & What They Mean for the Future of Dating (2018)
- 10 Online Dating Statistics You Should Know (2015)
- More Than 50% of People Who Use Tinder Do It Out of Boredom (2017)

It would appear that:

1) More men than women use dating apps. This in itself could account, to a large degree, for the shortage of women as perceived by men who use dating apps.
2) There is now a trend toward using dating apps to seek longterm relationships rather than hookups.
3) Among the relatively few women who use dating apps in the first place, proportionately fewer women than men use dating apps to seek hookups. Women are more likely than men to use dating apps to seek longterm relationships. But also, at the opposite extreme, women are much more likely than men to use dating apps just for entertainment, not actually seeking dates of any kind.


Perhaps, given that more men than women are looking for hookups. But I'm a little doubtful of the above, given that women tend not to prioritize looks as much as men do in the first place. Yes, it's also likely that those women who do hookups, in the first place, would prioritize looks more when seeking hookups than when seeking relationships. Still, even when seeking hookups, I would expect most women's top priority to be a feeling that the man is a safe person to be alone with.


By "better," do you mean "better-looking," or "better" in general? As I said, women tend not to prioritize looks as much as men do, and I would expect that many women would not prioritize looks as much in relationships as they would in hookups (assuming they do hookups in the first place, which many women do not). In relationships, a lot of other things become a lot more important.


Again, a lot here depends on what you mean by "better quality." I also dislike the whole idea that people can be rated on some single, linear, absolute scale of "quality," when there is lots of variation in terms of individual compatibility. Perhaps you could use another term like maybe "average desirability", i.e. desirability in terms of an average over everyone's desires?


I kinda see your point, but, ugh, the wording, describing people in terms of a single totally ordered scale of "value," like a slave market or something. It's downright dehumanizing, IMO.

Be that as it may, I think other issues discussed below are probably a much bigger factor in the shortage of women faced by some men.


Indeed that's probably a real problem for men who aren't college educated.


Really? Can you (or anyone else) provide statistics on this? That surprises me. After all, as far as I am aware, most college-educated women don't manage to find very high-paying jobs despite being college-educated, and they are less likely than male college grads to have majored in something with high earnings potential such as accounting or computer science.

But I think you're probably right that most women who are living independently prefer a man who is also living independently.