Constant rejection from women is making me suicidal

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24 Sep 2011, 2:43 am

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NO WOMEN SHOULD BE POSTING IN THIS THREAD!

YOU ARE ALL LYING, COLD-HEARTED, MANIPULATIVE b*****s AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE ALONE!


maybe they pick up on your bad attitude

Agreed. He may not call them all cold hearted manipulative b*****s while he's trying to get in their pants but his mannerisms and even smell will give him away as hating women. Disdain is a turn off sexually.

My advice to him is get a hooker. If you are going to think of women only as potential property you may as well pay for it.


Agreed! You might want to get a sexy hooker who would give you a good time and hopfully you'll stop being so depressed and angry.
Or he could just find a girl with asperger's because there usually very nice and more understanding.



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24 Sep 2011, 6:11 am

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I understand the op completely. Why should we have to play mindgames (which is essentially lying) just to find love, it seems hypocritical, to find somebody to be close with we have to pretend we are something we are not.


Mindgames is a bad word for it, honestly, as that has connotations of trickery and the such. No, it's more like a test. See, when girls challenge you or try to manipulate you, they're testing you and if you come up with a bad answer/response, you fail the test. Fail too many tests, and you fail the class, metaphorically speaking. :wink:

What do rational people do when they fail tests? They study! They learn the correct answers or at least avoid the incorrect ones so they don't fail it next time. If you pass enough tests, you might pass the class. What does the I-have-no-luck-with-girls crowd do? They whine and call girls manipulative and resign from trying.

Sometimes, you just have to learn. :)

Btw, I've personally found, the more attractive a girl is, the more they'll tend to test you (They have to make it harder to pass the class since there are so many students in it and only so many are allowed to pass. Unless they're a slut.). So, if you want it easy, go for the unattractive girls.

Finding "true love" is a bit more complicated than trying to hook up with cute girls. That requires more interpersonal similarity and, let's say, compatibility (And rapport... and stuff.).



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24 Sep 2011, 7:01 am

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Agreed! You might want to get a sexy hooker who would give you a good time and hopfully you'll stop being so depressed and angry.


I've been with hookers...it's a great experience while it lasts, but I would like something more meaningful.

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Or he could just find a girl with asperger's because there usually very nice and more understanding.


Asperger women don't want me either. I've had no more luck with them than with NT's...if anything, I've actually had less.



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24 Sep 2011, 8:18 am

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(Seriously, how exactly do males manipulate females? Oh, that's right... pretending to love them and that kind of jazz. And, pretending to be an "attractive guy", belying their actual self. That's seriously not as potent as the manipulative tools that females have at their disposal, though. It doesn't even compare.)


The psycholgically bully, which is used to make a woman come running back, to make her feel inadequite, to make her feel like she can't get any better, to get her to do what he wants, make her feel bad about a decision she has made, they play hard to get, they intimidate, they make a woman desire him by talking about all the better things he can get, believe me, you don't know what you're talking about. Seriously, you don't. Guys ave nearly made me lop myself I don't know how many times because of their psychological manipulation.

And none of these are from bad boys. Most of them have been computer geeks and video game nerds.


I know I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not a girl, after all. :lol:

Do you have anymore manipulative techniques I could possibly use in the future? Thanks! I'm still looking to improve my relationship skills, you see.



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24 Sep 2011, 11:52 am

I hate all this game, psychological, manipulation crap. It all goes over my head, and I'm probably too simple-minded to follow it. I just wanted a girl that's nice and has the same interests as me; pretty much a hermit, a loner that doesn't many friends, enjoys watching anime and playing video games.

But that's pretty much a dream as I'm too pathetic and worthless for any girl/women to want me. I'm ugly, slow, uneducated, poor, porn-addicted, boring, and un-charismatic.

I'm 25, never dated, friendless, car-less (can't drive), and still lives with my parents. I'm a disgraceful bum, and I'm sick of people using my attitude as an excuse for the way I am. I was born this way, and destined to be a failure and alone forever.



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24 Sep 2011, 12:01 pm

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I hate all this game, psychological, manipulation crap. It all goes over my head, and I'm probably too simple-minded to follow it. I just wanted a girl that's nice and has the same interests as me; pretty much a hermit, a loner that doesn't many friends, enjoys watching anime and playing video games.

But that's pretty much a dream as I'm too pathetic and worthless for any girl/women to want me. I'm ugly, slow, uneducated, poor, porn-addicted, boring, and un-charismatic.

I'm 25, never dated, friendless, car-less (can't drive), and still lives with my parents. I'm a disgraceful bum, and I'm sick of people using my attitude as an excuse for the way I am. I was born this way, and destined to be a failure and alone forever.


I have all those things (except looks) that you lack in spades - well above average in most cases - and I'm no better off than you are: How do you explain that?



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24 Sep 2011, 12:12 pm

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I hate all this game, psychological, manipulation crap. It all goes over my head, and I'm probably too simple-minded to follow it. I just wanted a girl that's nice and has the same interests as me; pretty much a hermit, a loner that doesn't many friends, enjoys watching anime and playing video games.

But that's pretty much a dream as I'm too pathetic and worthless for any girl/women to want me. I'm ugly, slow, uneducated, poor, porn-addicted, boring, and un-charismatic.

I'm 25, never dated, friendless, car-less (can't drive), and still lives with my parents. I'm a disgraceful bum, and I'm sick of people using my attitude as an excuse for the way I am. I was born this way, and destined to be a failure and alone forever.


I have all those things (except looks) that you lack in spades - well above average in most cases - and I'm no better off than you are: How do you explain that?


Bad luck, maybe? IDK, having most of those qualities doesn't guarantee a date/GF, but your chances are a lot better than someone like me.



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24 Sep 2011, 12:43 pm

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I hate all this game, psychological, manipulation crap. It all goes over my head, and I'm probably too simple-minded to follow it. I just wanted a girl that's nice and has the same interests as me; pretty much a hermit, a loner that doesn't many friends, enjoys watching anime and playing video games.

But that's pretty much a dream as I'm too pathetic and worthless for any girl/women to want me. I'm ugly, slow, uneducated, poor, porn-addicted, boring, and un-charismatic.

I'm 25, never dated, friendless, car-less (can't drive), and still lives with my parents. I'm a disgraceful bum, and I'm sick of people using my attitude as an excuse for the way I am. I was born this way, and destined to be a failure and alone forever.


I have all those things (except looks) that you lack in spades - well above average in most cases - and I'm no better off than you are: How do you explain that?


Bad luck, maybe? IDK, having most of those qualities doesn't guarantee a date/GF, but your chances are a lot better than someone like me.


So what's to say you're not just having "bad luck"? Look at my age - no one's luck is that bad.

All I'm trying to say is that even though you keep mentioning all those things, having them won't solve your problem - why don't you try something else?



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24 Sep 2011, 11:19 pm

Grisha wrote:
I have all those things (except looks) that you lack in spades - well above average in most cases - and I'm no better off than you are: How do you explain that?


I could give you a very simple (and accurate) answer to that question, but the PC police would have my head.



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25 Sep 2011, 1:55 am

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Agreed! You might want to get a sexy hooker who would give you a good time and hopfully you'll stop being so depressed and angry.


I've been with hookers...it's a great experience while it lasts, but I would like something more meaningful.

You are expecting love yet have already expressed hate for prospective girlfriends BECAUSE they are women. You won't find any meaningful connection with someone if you radiate contempt for them from the get go. My guess is they are AFRAID of you. The problem is not them it is YOU and the sooner you deal with your misogyny and own your own behaviour the sooner you'll find someone to love you.



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25 Sep 2011, 12:59 pm

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You are expecting love yet have already expressed hate for prospective girlfriends BECAUSE they are women. You won't find any meaningful connection with someone if you radiate contempt for them from the get go. My guess is they are AFRAID of you. The problem is not them it is YOU and the sooner you deal with your misogyny and own your own behaviour the sooner you'll find someone to love you.


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25 Sep 2011, 1:43 pm

Case in point. You act like a jerk which is why you can't get any without paying for it.

You hate women so they hate you.



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25 Sep 2011, 1:45 pm

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Case in point. You act like a jerk which is why you can't get any without paying for it.

You hate women so they hate you.


Why did they reject me before I started hating them?

You have the cause-and-effect relationship reversed. They hated me, so I hated them.



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25 Sep 2011, 2:38 pm

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riley wrote:
Case in point. You act like a jerk which is why you can't get any without paying for it.

You hate women so they hate you.


Why did they reject me before I started hating them?

You have the cause-and-effect relationship reversed. They hated me, so I hated them.

That´s an acceptable logic.
However you dont have a right to complain about how no female wants to be friends with you if you claim to hate them all. Thats just illogical.

Females hated me when I was younger, I was pushy, needy, had no clue about how to interact with them and had no clue on signs of not being interested on talking with me so I ended up being accused of this things several times a month.

I could have hated all women and avoid any contact with them, as a matter of fact I did for a while, I refused to interact with any female and whenever a female approached me asking for help I pointed her out all the times she had been mean to me so even though my teachers and all werent happy about it they had to put up with it because I had my reasons.

After a while I realized that even though they had hurt me several times... I still craved for some sort of connection with a female so I started talking with one of my class mates(he was the kind that asked me to help him with his homework while I tried to sleep whenever the teacher wasnt coming so I figured I could get something in return) and the first thing he told me is that I needed to change my attitude towards females and pointed out what was wrong with other aspects of me(going as far as why my clothing style was uncool and what I should start wearing). I didnt pay any attention to some of the things he said(ie the clothes thing) but I figured he had a point about the attitude thing and since he had pointed out all the flaws I had I knew what I should be working on and everything improved.


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26 Sep 2011, 3:41 am

Well with an attitude like your's you never will,you need to lose the bitterness and let go of the past a little,we all have problems like this so you arent alone, so just be yourself,there is plenty of girls out there who would be interested in you,but they want someone more positive and fun to be around,dont doubt yourself so much and you'll be fine,its one of those things you've just gotta take the gamble on and go for it,hell I've been rejected 100+times in a month on a single dating site recently,remember the worst that can happen is being rejected.



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01 Oct 2011, 4:30 am

SadAspy wrote:
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Case in point. You act like a jerk which is why you can't get any without paying for it.

You hate women so they hate you.


Why did they reject me before I started hating them?

You have the cause-and-effect relationship reversed. They hated me, so I hated them.

I don't know what other things about your turned them off only you can answer that.