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21 Nov 2011, 10:35 am

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I'm sorry, I looked at some photos taken this weekend and concluded that I am still very unsatisfied with my appearence even after losing 25lbs. My shoulders are simply too narrow to tolerate even a small amount of abdominal fat.

I think that some people can get away with it better, but I definitely need to have a low bodyfat % before I won't cringe at seeing myself in the mirror - BDD or no BDD...


Wtf?? you're too skinny already.



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21 Nov 2011, 10:40 am

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Grisha wrote:
I'm sorry, I looked at some photos taken this weekend and concluded that I am still very unsatisfied with my appearence even after losing 25lbs. My shoulders are simply too narrow to tolerate even a small amount of abdominal fat.

I think that some people can get away with it better, but I definitely need to have a low bodyfat % before I won't cringe at seeing myself in the mirror - BDD or no BDD...


Wtf?? you're too skinny already.


Medically speaking, I'm not "too skinny" - all of my clinical parameters are excellent, especially for someone my age.

Aesthetically speaking, I really need to change my body composition to more lean mass and less fat. That's my objective and I'm sticking to it...



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21 Nov 2011, 10:48 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Grisha wrote:
I'm sorry, I looked at some photos taken this weekend and concluded that I am still very unsatisfied with my appearence even after losing 25lbs. My shoulders are simply too narrow to tolerate even a small amount of abdominal fat.

I think that some people can get away with it better, but I definitely need to have a low bodyfat % before I won't cringe at seeing myself in the mirror - BDD or no BDD...


Wtf?? you're too skinny already.


Medically speaking, I'm not "too skinny" - all of my clinical parameters are excellent, especially for someone my age.

Aesthetically speaking, I really need to change my body composition to more lean mass and less fat. That's my objective and I'm sticking to it...


You already got a gf, why so desperate for a better body?



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21 Nov 2011, 11:21 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Grisha wrote:
I'm sorry, I looked at some photos taken this weekend and concluded that I am still very unsatisfied with my appearence even after losing 25lbs. My shoulders are simply too narrow to tolerate even a small amount of abdominal fat.

I think that some people can get away with it better, but I definitely need to have a low bodyfat % before I won't cringe at seeing myself in the mirror - BDD or no BDD...


Wtf?? you're too skinny already.


Medically speaking, I'm not "too skinny" - all of my clinical parameters are excellent, especially for someone my age.

Aesthetically speaking, I really need to change my body composition to more lean mass and less fat. That's my objective and I'm sticking to it...


You already got a gf, why so desperate for a better body?


1. Not "desperate" - I just have a difficult time accepting myself until I am satisfied that I have put my best effort into it, which to date I have not done.

2. I'm doing it for me, the GF has made it clear that I'm acceptable the way I am.



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21 Nov 2011, 11:36 am

Fulloftars, tell him he's being silly.

Personally, I think what you need is more fat, not less.



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21 Nov 2011, 11:57 am

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Fulloftars, tell him he's being silly.

Personally, I think what you need is more fat, not less.


Fullofwhat?



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21 Nov 2011, 12:10 pm

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21 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm

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That's very good advice and you come across as a very open minded person, I built my core and body through soccer, weightlifting, physical contact sports and yoga, I genuinely do it because it makes me feel better in myself and has lots of mental benefits but I wouldn't require my partner to have a six pack or have a low body fat ratio, I like contrast and I prefer women to be soft in contrast to me, I'm not sure how it would feel to rub my abdominal muscles against another set of abdominal muscles but I'd imagine it would feel different. I'm 6'3 and my ex girlfriend was only 5'3 and as petite as anything but it didn't matter to me, it just made me feel more protective towards her.

Of course we all have preferences, I would say that not all of us find conventional or typical to be attractive, I'm certainly someone who goes for women who don't fit the mark of typical beauty or what the media perceive to be beautiful, I couldn't care less. In fact, I could understand how some women wouldn't go for a guy that isn't as muscular as a professional bodybuilder or would be find it unattractive, less is more in some cases, It's similar for men too but if I truly fell for someone, I don't think it would matter at all.


Like I said, a guy should do what makes him happy (same goes for the girls). If he's interested in working out, yoga, etc. it's great and shows he's committed to something and it shows he has some interests that he's ready to devote his time to. It's a good thing. Plus, if it makes him feel better and more confident, it's great and it should be encouraged.

It's true many girls like tall guys. I admit I do. I'm 157cm tall (I think that's 5'2" or 5'3") and I like tall guys. The fact short guys were never interested in me for some reason probably helped.

That's why it's interesting to hear tall guys (or muscular guys, or whatever) can have their insecurities, too. Ok, I know it sounds stupid (of course anybody can be insecure) but I guess my experience is quite limited because I don't know that many people.

And yes, I know not all guys have a preference for conventionally attractive women.

There's a bad thing with certain young men, though: sometimes, they hide their true preferences if they don't match the "norm" in order not to be ridiculed by their peers.


Yes, of course I think anyone can be insecure, I think plenty of people are insecure. I do find a positive aspect in not being content or truly secure and it gives you the ability to strive to be better or to push yourself further, I do think the moment you become content or not as hungry, you lose motivation or determination. Achieving realistic fitness goals or any short term goals can be motivating and productive also, successful athletes and people improve because they refuse to be satisfied with attaining just one goal, I don't think success is a place you arrive at and sit down for years.

Realistically, It also takes a very strict diet regime, workout plan and amount of time, devotion and motivation to maintain a shredded developed body. For instance, if you work a day job or spend time studying at University in the day and spend the evening participating in a class or going to the gym, it's very important that you have a partner who respects this and understands that it's healthy to spend time apart and pursue personal goals. I suppose what really matters when it comes to finding a partner realistically is if it agrees with your lifestyle, goals, mutual interests, nobody should have to compromise their goals or dreams to be with someone.

Personally I prefer women that are tomboys and I do admit that. I find them to be very attractive and I'm attracted to girls who don't have typical feminine characteristics or traits. I don't really know why but I'm able to relate, connect and hold a better conversation with a girl who is a tomboy rather than one of typical or conventional characteristics or features, I like a girl that I can treat like one of the guys and hang out with and I'm not saying that a girl has to like lifting weights, gaming, cars or physical contact sports and hate shopping to be a tomboy by any means.



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21 Nov 2011, 12:30 pm

6 Pack depends on diet as well as exercises. If you like getting free torrents there are ebooks, audio books and videos that could be of great help. I hope to get fit by new year. To do some of the things I want to be able to do, I am required to be much healthier and fitter than I am now.

Grisha, if getting fitter and going for the six pack is what you want, definitely go for it. There's no substitute for being healthy, thats what my dad always says. He's more than twice my age and he's much fitter than I am :lol:


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21 Nov 2011, 12:37 pm

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6 Pack depends on diet as well as exercises. If you like getting free torrents there are ebooks, audio books and videos that could be of great help. I hope to get fit by new year. To do some of the things I want to be able to do, I am required to be much healthier and fitter than I am now.

Grisha, if getting fitter and going for the six pack is what you want, definitely go for it. There's no substitute for being healthy, thats what my dad always says. He's more than twice my age and he's much fitter than I am :lol:


Thanks!

Yes, many people don't realize that abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym - that's why people are suckers for all those wacky devices that people sell.

It's almost 100% a function of bodyfat, that's it.



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21 Nov 2011, 12:53 pm

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Yes, of course I think anyone can be insecure, I think plenty of people are insecure.


Yes, well, of course. I didn't mean to imply that only unattractive people can be insecure, sorry if it sounded that way. I just think it's a good reminder, especially on a board such as this one, that most of the people have their insecurities even if they appear like they don't have any problem in this department.

And yes, I agree certain level of insecurity is actually beneficial, because it makes you work harder and improve yourself more. It also helps you not to fall into an egoistic trap of considering yourself "teh best" thing in the world and it makes you stay a decent human being.

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I suppose what really matters when it comes to finding a partner realistically is if it agrees with your lifestyle, goals, mutual interests, nobody should have to compromise their goals or dreams to be with someone.


I agree with this. Maybe sharing similar interests or lifestyles isn't as important as respecting your partner's interests and not wanting to change him/her in order to fit your time schedule or your idea of an ideal person. Also, I do think it's beneficial for partners to maintain their individual interests and hobbies; nothing wrong about spending time alone, doing your individual interests.

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Personally I prefer women that are tomboys and I do admit that. I find them to be very attractive and I'm attracted to girls who don't have typical feminine characteristics or traits.


Now that I think about it, you're right. There are many guys who like tomboy girls. I'm a tomboy and while guys usually acted like I wasn't even there, those who were interested were usually very interested. For some reason, they were also good looking, and I was never really picky there. Same goes for my tomboy friends - none of them gets approached by guys on a regular basis, but they all end up in relationships with great (and, well, attractive) men.

A good thing about being a tomboy is that you always know a guy is truly interested in you as a person.



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21 Nov 2011, 12:56 pm

There are torrents of p90x, a complete workout system with diet plan. The abs part is 'ab ripper x', already mentioned in this thread. Probably the whole system is worthwhile.

I agree with whichever television character said the hottest thing in a woman is being into me.



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21 Nov 2011, 1:00 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fulloftars, tell him he's being silly.

Personally, I think what you need is more fat, not less.


He doesn't listen to me. My plan is to just make bacon 'round the clock while he tries to work.



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21 Nov 2011, 1:01 pm

Fullofstars wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fulloftars, tell him he's being silly.

Personally, I think what you need is more fat, not less.


He doesn't listen to me. My plan is to just make bacon 'round the clock while he tries to work.


mmmmmm...bacon...



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21 Nov 2011, 1:01 pm

Fullofstars wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fulloftars, tell him he's being silly.

Personally, I think what you need is more fat, not less.


He doesn't listen to me. My plan is to just make bacon 'round the clock while he tries to work.


Heheheheheh. I like you. :wink:



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21 Nov 2011, 1:57 pm

Heh, you know what my figuring for wimmenz is? You're gonna get girls as good looking as you are, more or less.