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The_Face_of_Boo
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28 Jan 2013, 10:05 am

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I certainly have noticed a correlation between people who are unlucky in love and people who hold contempt for the world around them and think human beings are inherently bad. What a surprise!

Nooooooot necessarily. From my own anecdotes, I know some people with the worst attitudes known to man (take Shau's misanthropy and multiply it by about 5 and you have how negative their attitudes are) yet they are lucky in love.

Besides that, anybody who has been crapped on long enough by all sorts of people is gonna get a negative attitude about it sooner or later. I would know this, because it happened to me.

You're right, sometimes people just get lucky no matter their attitude, but I don't think it's totally out there to say that people who have particularly negative outlooks on life may have negative experiences in romance.

No, DialAForAwesome is right 100% - I know total haters in relationships.

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28 Jan 2013, 4:02 pm

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i am glad you admitted that you just don't know. if you can't even give an estimate, then i would not trust you to know whether my own estimate is correct.

I do know it's more than 1%, and you conveniently ignored the illustration stating that I can know in terms of inequality without knowing the exact number.

Keep in mind that narcissists and abusers do not comprise of people with just only one type of personality disorder (as you might have been thinking). The 1% stat refers to people who are diagnosed with a particular personality disorder that is NPD. And that's just for the diagnosed and for those diagnosed with one particular disorder.

But when it comes to narcissism and abusers in general, it is more than that. Consider people with ASPD for example. They may not have the word "narcissistic" in their personality disorder but they are still often narcissistic and very often abusive (if not always). And it is said, statistically speaking, there are around 2-3% of people diagnosed with ASPD. And that's just the diagnosis.

Now couple that with the anecdotal fact that families with narcissists have a good probability of breeding other narcissists and that certain cultures can encourage narcissism, and you get a larger and larger number. The percentage itself may not be increasing wildly, but the number is.

Now observe that most leaders of the nations display extreme narcissism and lie and manipulate to get things done their way, and that should also be an indicator it's more than 1% of the population.

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28 Jan 2013, 4:29 pm

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only 1% of humans can be narcissistic and abusive.

do you ever go outside? Watch the news? deal with people?

also the idea that this has to be quantified to be real is a fallacy imo

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28 Jan 2013, 5:00 pm

You guys are wrong. It's 7%.

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28 Jan 2013, 5:27 pm

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only 1% of humans can be narcissistic and abusive.

do you ever go outside? Watch the news? deal with people?

also the idea that this has to be quantified to be real is a fallacy imo

lol same reaction I got when she first said it, I've suggested her to go out and/or watch the news.

hyper, not the whole world is Canada and Uk btw; but I hardly believe that the societies there are that ideal either.

Besides, I don't think you were referring to the narcisstic disorders but rather to general trait of narcissim which is not so rare.

Abusive? lol this is a human trait which is quite common accross the globe.

Since the dawn of times there were a lot cases of abuses, man abusing animal, a tribe abuses a weaker tribes, a majority abusing a minority, a ruler or ruling party abusing a whole nation's people, a country abusing another, a husband abusing his wife, a mother abusing her child, an employer abusing his workers...etc

Wars, tortures, rapes, genocides, racism, fanaticism... etc

AND you still believe it's 1%????

I would love to switch worlds.

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28 Jan 2013, 5:51 pm

it's so hilarious to me that people react so incredulously, yet cannot offer an alternative. :lol: either you are afraid to open your estimates to criticism, or you actually have nooooooooo idea whatsoever.

"there are about 7 billion people on the earth"
"there are definitely NOT 7 billion people on the earth!! !!"
"well how many ARE there?"
"NOT 7 billion!! ! some other number obviously!! !!11!! !!"
"how do you know how many, if not 7 billion? how can you be sure it's wrong?"
"it's just so wrong in its wrongness!! !! !"

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28 Jan 2013, 5:54 pm

I say there's more abusive people than narcisistic ones. But that depends on definitions of each of those. Also I'd say it's much over half of the narcisists are abusive

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28 Jan 2013, 5:55 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:

You guys are wrong. It's 7%.

thank you for that.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:04 pm

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it's so hilarious to me that people react so incredulously, yet cannot offer an alternative. :lol:

either you are afraid to open your estimates to criticism, or you actually have nooooooooo idea whatsoever.

Or maybe you yourself have no clue what you're arguing. It's always an option.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

He was illustrating the lack of need for quantification

There is no requirement to quantify the obvious and any attempt to do so would be flawed or impractical

Its a really quite a low standard of argument really. Some arguments are like rides at a theme park, you have to have some attributes and a lack of others to ride.

Its far too onerous to ask for numbers and simply not required

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28 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

the actual phrase that i said was:

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since we agree that it would not be a common case, it's not like it would be filling a category. it doesn't make it a justified label to apply to cases of friendship between men and women, even when one of them is interested in the other. the only way it could be justified is if 99% of women are actually shallow and narcissistic abusers that like to have fanboys, and that isnt the case. so it doesn't explain the pervasiveness of the "friendzone" label.

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*nodding head*

Hmm, so you believe that only 1% of women can be shallow and abusers - I see, sounds legit.

....which i never said. how about let's stop misquoting me, ok?

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28 Jan 2013, 6:09 pm

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Exactly.

And 1% of whether it's of men or of women is still a number that's too low for reality.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:09 pm

So if its not 99% what % is it.

Please poll EVERYONE on earth and get back to me.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:10 pm

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So if its not 99% what % is it.

Please poll EVERYONE on earth and get back to me.

You take facetiousness to new levels

I have to admit I'm slightly in awe of you!

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28 Jan 2013, 6:14 pm

to be fair, it was fun to see everyone go to great lengths to "prove" me wrong while never having to actually provide any evidence or solid facts, even going so far as to mock me!! ! and it was all over something that i didn't even say. ahhhhh WrongPlanet.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:26 pm

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How many students had to sit in the corner today? :chin:

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