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13 Feb 2013, 6:43 pm

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hey billiscool: Like I said man, they are stronger inside.

this is what you said^^^

when you make positive blanket statements about a gender, it is still sexist, but it is referred to as "benevolent sexism" because it isn't negative generalisations. it is usually used towards men or women in a certain stereotypical way (i.e. saying women are kinder than men), but not always. technically, it is also sexist against men.


Its not the logic of your argument at fault, it is your use of of the term 'sexist'.
By the logic of your argument, creation is sexist, because the two sexes are different.
Strength in and of itself does not equate to outright superiority, so the issue of being 'sexist for' or 'sexist against' in this line is an academic fantasy.



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13 Feb 2013, 6:46 pm

a post contained a personal attack, so it was removed along with the ones that quoted it. in case anyone wondered where their posts went.

also... in case anyone was wondering, it is NOT a personal attack, nor is it "denigerating" or abusive to tell someone that their post is sexist/racist/a personal attack. at worst, it could be an incorrect statement, but it doesn't break any rules.


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13 Feb 2013, 6:52 pm

Point noted.



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13 Feb 2013, 8:04 pm

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13 Feb 2013, 9:18 pm

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Most of us have Aspergers Syndrome, sorry we can't conform to your specific version of Nessaspergers Syndrome to in your mind make any of our comments passable or of use to others. I'd like to bring it to your attention there was a time in your life you would have been seen as a normal person too but weirder than your buddies, so I see it a tad hypocritical for you to take that tone with others here.

The reason common behavior is mentioned, suggested and even hypothesized on these boards is because it is simply that, common and in some societies the norm. Many here want to understand why people are saying and doing what they are including untoward them which is what Bill is finding hard to deal with. If NT's find certain behavior creepy should all us Aspies find it uncreepy now to pass some sort of conceited test with no logical bearing? Moving on...

The comment about childbearing is a pretty common thought process. There are a lot of moms out there that are still looking for Mr. Right. There are a lot of people that feel the clock is ticking or yearn for families. And sadly depending which part of the social bracet you fit into there are alot of people looking to start a career in receiving welfare or to entrap a partner by conceiving a child with them and even they want to at least say they did that with a responsible, decent person.


Bill doesn't take heed of any of the advice he gets given though

He plays a classic example of the 'No, But' game that is detailed in Eric Berne's book 'The Games People Play'

I take your point about my version of Aspergers but I do have Aspergers remember, which makes me highly intolerant of certain attitudes and forms of behaviour in others

I freely admit my intolerance whereas most pretend theirs doesn't exist and try and put on a 'nice guy' act to everyone when something very different can be lurking beneath the surface

All I do is detect what lurks underneath and people don't like it

With me, what you see is what you get


the ''no,but game'' I do that. I never knew that.



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13 Feb 2013, 9:24 pm

bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


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13 Feb 2013, 9:25 pm

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bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.

that's good advice, right there.


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13 Feb 2013, 9:42 pm

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bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


yeah,I've been trying. But so far no other female see's me as a boyfriend, just as a friend.
they think I am a wimp. ( if no one have figure it out yet, I am not very ''masculine'' and that's a no-no to alot of females)

expect my ex gf, who I don't think even had a clue about masculinity. Or how men are suppose to be.



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13 Feb 2013, 10:00 pm

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bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


yeah,I've been trying. But so far no other female see's me as a boyfriend, just as a friend.
they think I am a wimp. ( if no one have figure it out yet, I am not very ''masculine'' and that's a no-no to alot of females)

expect my ex gf, who I don't think even had a clue about masculinity. Or how men are suppose to be.


But I am tougher than what people expect. People are shock on how strong and tough I am.



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13 Feb 2013, 10:21 pm

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bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


yeah,I've been trying. But so far no other female see's me as a boyfriend, just as a friend.
they think I am a wimp. ( if no one have figure it out yet, I am not very ''masculine'' and that's a no-no to alot of females)

expect my ex gf, who I don't think even had a clue about masculinity. Or how men are suppose to be.


But I am tougher than what people expect. People are shock on how strong and tough I am.
i think people see me as a pushover as well even though im tall and strong.


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13 Feb 2013, 11:02 pm

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bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


yeah,I've been trying. But so far no other female see's me as a boyfriend, just as a friend.
they think I am a wimp. ( if no one have figure it out yet, I am not very ''masculine'' and that's a no-no to alot of females)

expect my ex gf, who I don't think even had a clue about masculinity. Or how men are suppose to be.


But I am tougher than what people expect. People are shock on how strong and tough I am.
i think people see me as a pushover as well even though im tall and strong.


right. Problem is alot of female don't want to date guys they think are wimpy or a pushover.
so, what can you do. All the power is in female hands. females are the decision makers when it comes to dating.
men have no say. All you can do is hope for the best.



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13 Feb 2013, 11:58 pm

billiscool wrote:
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billiscool wrote:
billiscool wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
bill, i would suggest that you stopped pursuing this girl. She has expressed she doesnt want you back, and going after her more will just driver her away. Keep trying with the other girls, eventually you will get a different better girl.


yeah,I've been trying. But so far no other female see's me as a boyfriend, just as a friend.
they think I am a wimp. ( if no one have figure it out yet, I am not very ''masculine'' and that's a no-no to alot of females)

expect my ex gf, who I don't think even had a clue about masculinity. Or how men are suppose to be.


But I am tougher than what people expect. People are shock on how strong and tough I am.
i think people see me as a pushover as well even though im tall and strong.


right. Problem is alot of female don't want to date guys they think are wimpy or a pushover.
so, what can you do. All the power is in female hands. females are the decision makers when it comes to dating.
men have no say. All you can do is hope for the best.
idk why they see you as one..you always approach girls and say crazy things..that;s not pushover at all....maybe the accent...you're a southern boy as opposed to a manly man?


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14 Feb 2013, 12:54 am

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idk why they see you as one..you always approach girls and say crazy things..that;s not pushover at all....maybe the accent...you're a southern boy as opposed to a manly man?


I really have no idea why they think Im a wimp. Yeah, I do everything a man suppose to do. I approach women all the time ( and no I don't always do the ''damn you hot girl'' I've only done that couple times) and I have no trouble talking to women at all.

women just never want to date me. and what can I do, I have no say. so it's how it is.
I think there is just alot of stigma against men who don't act like a ''traditional real man''.
Back when I was in school I was made fun of by both boys and girls because I didn't play sports.
Because ''real boys'' play sports.

for men there is no ''real women'' it's either your hot or your not. Men have no problem with
weird strange women, as long as the men finds the women attractive, they will pretty much ignore or
never notice, or care about any women's ''weird flaws''

but for women, mens flaws are just too much for them, which of course it's their decision,
but it sucks for guys like me. but then again maybe I am bless. I do save alot of money,
I do have my own time to do stuff, so yes, maybe I am bless, that so many women
let's so much stuff prevent them from dating a guy.

I have a saying: ''what about stinky people. well I wouldn't be surprise if stinky women still gets
dates, their boyfriend would either tolerate, or not even notice the smell''

I don't know much about men, I don't think like a ''real man'' so I got no clue.
why many men aren't bother by alot ''weird stuff'' that some women do. I just don't understand it.



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14 Feb 2013, 1:08 am

You're probably seems to be a bit like mine, Ecosystem.

In the South East there is a very very real idea of what a "Man" acts like.. and if you deviate from that even a little bit you're castigated.. Even saying move to a college town won't always help.. since I live in one but since I don't care about the sports teams from that school it just further isolates me.

The thing is, if I lived near a place where a Soccer Team existed I'd be Thrilled cause I could go to bars that showed the games or hang out with groups of people who also support the team.. but I just don't care about American Football or Nascar or Basketball or Baseball. I'm not even huge into Soccer but I at least enjoy it, both playing it and watching it. It's a sport that I actually am not horrible at, or wasn't when I was in school.

But in my part of the country it seems that if you're not 200lbs, miller lite swilling, trucker cap and white T wearing, F-150 driving country music or Dirty south rap listening, god fearing, obama hatin', then you're not a 'Real Man'... even though I live near one of the biggest research universities in the region.. these guys seem to get all the girls unless you actually live within walking distance of campus... then you can get away with being a volvo driving, cardigan wearing, soccer likeing, academically enthusiastic, whole foods shopper and not be left out in the cold too much.



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14 Feb 2013, 6:49 am

billiscool wrote:
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idk why they see you as one..you always approach girls and say crazy things..that;s not pushover at all....maybe the accent...you're a southern boy as opposed to a manly man?


I really have no idea why they think Im a wimp. Yeah, I do everything a man suppose to do. I approach women all the time ( and no I don't always do the ''damn you hot girl'' I've only done that couple times) and I have no trouble talking to women at all.

women just never want to date me. and what can I do, I have no say. so it's how it is.
I think there is just alot of stigma against men who don't act like a ''traditional real man''.
Back when I was in school I was made fun of by both boys and girls because I didn't play sports.
Because ''real boys'' play sports.

for men there is no ''real women'' it's either your hot or your not. Men have no problem with
weird strange women, as long as the men finds the women attractive, they will pretty much ignore or
never notice, or care about any women's ''weird flaws''

but for women, mens flaws are just too much for them, which of course it's their decision,
but it sucks for guys like me. but then again maybe I am bless. I do save alot of money,
I do have my own time to do stuff, so yes, maybe I am bless, that so many women
let's so much stuff prevent them from dating a guy.

I have a saying: ''what about stinky people. well I wouldn't be surprise if stinky women still gets
dates, their boyfriend would either tolerate, or not even notice the smell''

I don't know much about men, I don't think like a ''real man'' so I got no clue.
why many men aren't bother by alot ''weird stuff'' that some women do. I just don't understand it.

...except that it isn't correct. it's actually quite insulting to every man i ever dated as they were not walking stereotypes. lucky women aren't walking around with all kinds of varieties of personalities and getting to date while only one kind of man gets a date - the very idea is kind of ridiculous. just as many varieties of men get dates as women do.

we've told you some of the things that could be offputting about your behaviour, but you usually don't listen. you make excuses after excuses or you just brush it aside and blame it on the women. that's your choice, but it doesn't make it women's fault you are not successful in dating right now. if 20+ people are all telling you the same things on the forum, then they might after all be onto something.


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14 Feb 2013, 10:49 am

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billiscool wrote:
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idk why they see you as one..you always approach girls and say crazy things..that;s not pushover at all....maybe the accent...you're a southern boy as opposed to a manly man?


I really have no idea why they think Im a wimp. Yeah, I do everything a man suppose to do. I approach women all the time ( and no I don't always do the ''damn you hot girl'' I've only done that couple times) and I have no trouble talking to women at all.

women just never want to date me. and what can I do, I have no say. so it's how it is.
I think there is just alot of stigma against men who don't act like a ''traditional real man''.
Back when I was in school I was made fun of by both boys and girls because I didn't play sports.
Because ''real boys'' play sports.

for men there is no ''real women'' it's either your hot or your not. Men have no problem with
weird strange women, as long as the men finds the women attractive, they will pretty much ignore or
never notice, or care about any women's ''weird flaws''

but for women, mens flaws are just too much for them, which of course it's their decision,
but it sucks for guys like me. but then again maybe I am bless. I do save alot of money,
I do have my own time to do stuff, so yes, maybe I am bless, that so many women
let's so much stuff prevent them from dating a guy.

I have a saying: ''what about stinky people. well I wouldn't be surprise if stinky women still gets
dates, their boyfriend would either tolerate, or not even notice the smell''

I don't know much about men, I don't think like a ''real man'' so I got no clue.
why many men aren't bother by alot ''weird stuff'' that some women do. I just don't understand it.

...except that it isn't correct. it's actually quite insulting to every man i ever dated as they were not walking stereotypes. lucky women aren't walking around with all kinds of varieties of personalities and getting to date while only one kind of man gets a date - the very idea is kind of ridiculous. just as many varieties of men get dates as women do.

we've told you some of the things that could be offputting about your behaviour, but you usually don't listen. you make excuses after excuses or you just brush it aside and blame it on the women. that's your choice, but it doesn't make it women's fault you are not successful in dating right now. if 20+ people are all telling you the same things on the forum, then they might after all be onto something.


sorry but their are alot men that women will not date. (men who are wimpy,short men,bisexual men, many asperger men) so maybe women do date a variety, however their alot of type of men they refuse to date. ( and openly bisexual men are very good example, even many liberal pro gay women refuse to date bi men)

yes, you are right about my behavior. Being a ''wimp'' towards a woman is very offputing towards them. Just like being shy,
being social ackward, I do agree. I do admit I ain't perfect, and woman do have the rights not to date me, sure.
But that don't mean it doesn't suck.

you missed the whole point. Yes I admit I have flaws, I won't deny that. But so do so many women do too. But here the difference
,men actual don't care ,or notice, or tolerate women's flaws. How many men don't care if a woman is shy,not many. How many men don't care if a women has asperger and is a liltte off, not many. How many men don't care if a woman is bisexual, not many.

it's all in women's hand. Their the one's making decision. Their the one's that are letting stereotypes get in the way.
maybe if women would be more like ''yeah, he's strange and is pushover, But I don't mind that about him''
I probaly would date more, but I am not. So whatever.. I am not wizard. can't change nothing