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12 Oct 2017, 6:59 am

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Don't worry about hale_bop. It's past midnight in New Zealand. She's asleep now.


Or maybe she's gone for a poop. Happens when your full of sheeeeeet.


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12 Oct 2017, 6:59 am

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Men who aren't attracted to fat women are so sexist. Perhaps they should be forced to go to fat conversion therapy. It would be similar to gay conversion therapy in which Christians force gay men to become attracted to women, except that fat women would force straight men to become attracted to straight women.

Gay conversion therapy has been sooo successful in changing men's sexual preferences so it should be just easy to make men attracted to fat women.


Convert me, RetroGamer87 - how should I start?


Start with a massive guilt trip. You must prostrate yourself in shame for preferring healthier women. Then you must read volumes of feminist literature and believe every word of it, for all of it ture, even the parts that contradict each other.

You must abstain from going to the doctor because doctors are misogynists who tell women they need to lose weight. Lies! Lies! The truth is women are healthy at any size! If you get sick you can go to a feminist healing circle or a Wiccan medicine woman. Science is so patriarchal and narrow minded. It is blind to the benefits of spiritual healing.

Finally you must date a fat woman. You must tell her you're attracted to her but not because you have a fat fetish. That would be sexist. You must simultaneously believe that you're attracted to fat women and that you don't have a fat fetish.

Eventually you will learn not to judge women for any reason. Not their body type. Not their face. Not their personality. Not their hatred of men. All women are beautiful. All women and strong and empowered, even the really lazy ones.



Is there a shortness conversation therapy program for women?


Not yet. You will have to create one. You will be a pioneer!


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12 Oct 2017, 7:01 am

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Boo, I am by no means an expert when it comes to cholesterol, but as far as I know, you actually want HDL to be high. I think it's the ratio between LDL and HDL that is most important.
very outdated.. I would do some resarch if I were you.



Yes that what i said, I did a typo above.

My aim is to increase HDL (hence why eating olive oil and walnuts) and decrease LDL.


Do you take Statins?


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12 Oct 2017, 7:13 am

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Losing weight is not rocket science.
I know it sounds harsh, but honestly, I cannot sympathise with fat people who play victim when it's their own damn fault. Whether people want to change or not is none of my concern, but atleast take responsibility for your actions.

Men are pretty much universally more attracted to slim women, it's simply a fact.

Thanks to hale bopp for needlessly relying on stupid stereotypes to make a point, and let her own sexism shine through. Being fat doesn't make you smarter, and being muscular doesn't make you brainless. That makes no sense. I know alot of men who work out, who are very very smart, creative, ambitious, artistic. Everything from conservatory level jazz musicians, to phd students, who also happen to appreciate having a strong and healthy body.

A sound mind, is a sound body. Not taking care of your body doesn't make you smart.



Well said.

I've been way too scrawny (130lbs at age 21 w/a 35" chest). I began to dislike my look because women disliked my look. I was the guy that was either felt sorry for or mocked. I took responsibility.

I've been overweight - when I was 31-34 I was around 190lbs. IAgain, I took responsibility and didn't consider myself dateable at the time and so lost weight.


From what I've observed, It seems to me that men are almost universally better at taking responsibility when it comes to their weight.


While there's more overweight men in the USA than women. There are more overweight and obese women than men globally.

Are you The least bit.surprised?

Men also average more hours of exercise per week in many countries. Though I suspect the fact men still make up the bulk of labor jobs is part of the reason.

Young men. Are simply more active in my experience.

Teen boys ride, play sport, casually weightlift. Etc.

Teen girls...walk around the shopping mall? Maybe have a gym session once in a blue moon.

Teen boys are also more active at the same activity.

Young men have swimming races and wrestle in the water, young women just sunbathe for hours and read and socialize.

Every excuse in the book can be waved away with calories in, calories out.

Our ancestors managed to stay healthy weight for millennia.

We may have more access to food.than ever and less active jobs but that was no excuse for society to become just how pathetically lazy it is today on a single generation.



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12 Oct 2017, 7:23 am

Outrider wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Sometime World wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Losing weight is not rocket science.
I know it sounds harsh, but honestly, I cannot sympathise with fat people who play victim when it's their own damn fault. Whether people want to change or not is none of my concern, but atleast take responsibility for your actions.

Men are pretty much universally more attracted to slim women, it's simply a fact.

Thanks to hale bopp for needlessly relying on stupid stereotypes to make a point, and let her own sexism shine through. Being fat doesn't make you smarter, and being muscular doesn't make you brainless. That makes no sense. I know alot of men who work out, who are very very smart, creative, ambitious, artistic. Everything from conservatory level jazz musicians, to phd students, who also happen to appreciate having a strong and healthy body.

A sound mind, is a sound body. Not taking care of your body doesn't make you smart.



Well said.

I've been way too scrawny (130lbs at age 21 w/a 35" chest). I began to dislike my look because women disliked my look. I was the guy that was either felt sorry for or mocked. I took responsibility.

I've been overweight - when I was 31-34 I was around 190lbs. IAgain, I took responsibility and didn't consider myself dateable at the time and so lost weight.


From what I've observed, It seems to me that men are almost universally better at taking responsibility when it comes to their weight.


While there's more overweight men in the USA than women. There are more overweight and obese women than men globally.

Are you The least bit.surprised?

Men also average more hours of exercise per week in many countries. Though I suspect the fact men still make up the bulk of labor jobs is part of the reason.

Young men. Are simply more active in my experience.

Teen boys ride, play sport, casually weightlift. Etc.

Teen girls...walk around the shopping mall? Maybe have a gym session once in a blue moon.

Teen boys are also more active at the same activity.

Young men have swimming races and wrestle in the water, young women just sunbathe for hours and read and socialize.

Every excuse in the book can be waved away with calories in, calories out.

Our ancestors managed to stay healthy weight for millennia.

We may have more access to food.than ever and less active jobs but that was no excuse for society to become just how pathetically lazy it is today on a single generation.


I'm all for personal responsibility but I still blame the food companies for intentionally designing addictive products. Who knows? They might even be encouraging the fat acceptance movement.

The trouble is, girls are having stuff like this marketed at them

Image

Each one of these Starbucks Unicorn Frappuccinos contains three times the recommended daily allowance of sugar.
Girls may think they look cute drinking them but it won't make their waistline cute.


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12 Oct 2017, 7:27 am

Outrider wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Sometime World wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Losing weight is not rocket science.
I know it sounds harsh, but honestly, I cannot sympathise with fat people who play victim when it's their own damn fault. Whether people want to change or not is none of my concern, but atleast take responsibility for your actions.

Men are pretty much universally more attracted to slim women, it's simply a fact.

Thanks to hale bopp for needlessly relying on stupid stereotypes to make a point, and let her own sexism shine through. Being fat doesn't make you smarter, and being muscular doesn't make you brainless. That makes no sense. I know alot of men who work out, who are very very smart, creative, ambitious, artistic. Everything from conservatory level jazz musicians, to phd students, who also happen to appreciate having a strong and healthy body.

A sound mind, is a sound body. Not taking care of your body doesn't make you smart.



Well said.

I've been way too scrawny (130lbs at age 21 w/a 35" chest). I began to dislike my look because women disliked my look. I was the guy that was either felt sorry for or mocked. I took responsibility.

I've been overweight - when I was 31-34 I was around 190lbs. IAgain, I took responsibility and didn't consider myself dateable at the time and so lost weight.


From what I've observed, It seems to me that men are almost universally better at taking responsibility when it comes to their weight.


While there's more overweight men in the USA than women. There are more overweight and obese women than men globally.

Are you The least bit.surprised?

Men also average more hours of exercise per week in many countries. Though I suspect the fact men still make up the bulk of labor jobs is part of the reason.

Young men. Are simply more active in my experience.

Teen boys ride, play sport, casually weightlift. Etc.

Teen girls...walk around the shopping mall? Maybe have a gym session once in a blue moon.

Teen boys are also more active at the same activity.

Young men have swimming races and wrestle in the water, young women just sunbathe for hours and read and socialize.

Every excuse in the book can be waved away with calories in, calories out.

Our ancestors managed to stay healthy weight for millennia.

We may have more access to food.than ever and less active jobs but that was no excuse for society to become just how pathetically lazy it is today on a single generation.



It's the bullying of men that are not attracted to slobs that annoys me the most.

Are women bullied for not liking short men? Height is not juxtapose to obesity as one is self-caused the other immutable. Maybe women know they can get away with it and abuse that female privilege simply because nobody dare call them out, especially not a male.

And high rates of female obesity aren't good in a social setting for males looking for dates. If your that thin and plain girl in a bar full of bigger ladies, your going to get the Lions share -- if not all-- of the male attention that night. Your the only Queen in the land of fat women. Such thin women will let it get to their heads and think no man is good enough for them simply because she's the one getting all the bulk of male attention. She's gonna think she's a gorgeous celebrity 10/10 even though she's just a plain thin woman working at a hair salon, gas station etc.


Maybe women want other women to stay fat by telling them they're "beautiful" or "lovely just the way you are"? As it reduces the competition for men whilst raising their own value. Kind of a clever sexual strategy and form of mate guarding if you think about it. If your best friend is a fat, she's less likely to take your hubby! :arrow:


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12 Oct 2017, 7:38 am

Sometime World wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Boo, I am by no means an expert when it comes to cholesterol, but as far as I know, you actually want HDL to be high. I think it's the ratio between LDL and HDL that is most important.
very outdated.. I would do some resarch if I were you.



Yes that what i said, I did a typo above.

My aim is to increase HDL (hence why eating olive oil and walnuts) and decrease LDL.


Do you take Statins?


No, I have it slightly higher, by 4 points only. I ll decrease it by cutting fries and and unsaturated and trans fats.

Trans fats lowers HDL too and increase LDL.



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12 Oct 2017, 8:48 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Outrider wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Sometime World wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Losing weight is not rocket science.
I know it sounds harsh, but honestly, I cannot sympathise with fat people who play victim when it's their own damn fault. Whether people want to change or not is none of my concern, but atleast take responsibility for your actions.

Men are pretty much universally more attracted to slim women, it's simply a fact.

Thanks to hale bopp for needlessly relying on stupid stereotypes to make a point, and let her own sexism shine through. Being fat doesn't make you smarter, and being muscular doesn't make you brainless. That makes no sense. I know alot of men who work out, who are very very smart, creative, ambitious, artistic. Everything from conservatory level jazz musicians, to phd students, who also happen to appreciate having a strong and healthy body.

A sound mind, is a sound body. Not taking care of your body doesn't make you smart.



Well said.

I've been way too scrawny (130lbs at age 21 w/a 35" chest). I began to dislike my look because women disliked my look. I was the guy that was either felt sorry for or mocked. I took responsibility.

I've been overweight - when I was 31-34 I was around 190lbs. IAgain, I took responsibility and didn't consider myself dateable at the time and so lost weight.


From what I've observed, It seems to me that men are almost universally better at taking responsibility when it comes to their weight.


While there's more overweight men in the USA than women. There are more overweight and obese women than men globally.

Are you The least bit.surprised?

Men also average more hours of exercise per week in many countries. Though I suspect the fact men still make up the bulk of labor jobs is part of the reason.

Young men. Are simply more active in my experience.

Teen boys ride, play sport, casually weightlift. Etc.

Teen girls...walk around the shopping mall? Maybe have a gym session once in a blue moon.

Teen boys are also more active at the same activity.

Young men have swimming races and wrestle in the water, young women just sunbathe for hours and read and socialize.

Every excuse in the book can be waved away with calories in, calories out.

Our ancestors managed to stay healthy weight for millennia.

We may have more access to food.than ever and less active jobs but that was no excuse for society to become just how pathetically lazy it is today on a single generation.


I'm all for personal responsibility but I still blame the food companies for intentionally designing addictive products. Who knows? They might even be encouraging the fat acceptance movement.

The trouble is, girls are having stuff like this marketed at them

Image

Each one of these Starbucks Unicorn Frappuccinos contains three times the recommended daily allowance of sugar.
Girls may think they look cute drinking them but it won't make their waistline cute.


Yes. Too many unhealthy, processed snacks and fast food.

People use to eat healthier too because it was all they had. porridge, rice, vegetables, fruits, meats.

They're called 'staple food'. Cheap and easy, usually from farming (e.g. farmers ate their own produce).

Just look in any Coles/Woolworths catalogue, look in any store.

All I see is snack after snack after snack and Coca Cola ads people partying and the big bottles saying "Share with a mate!" In big letters.

These companies want a profit and will kill the nation of obesity to get it.

90% of people just eat whatever they feel like when they feel hungry, usually snacks overloaded with sugar, most people rarely exercise and a large portion of those that do have no consistent diet or fitness routine and just do Ransom's active sh*t whentheye feel like it, like the boys I knew in high school who ate fast food and energy drinks but would skateboard, surf, parkour, and the rare gym workout.

Whatever. They're still fitter than the average person and a healthy weight at least.



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12 Oct 2017, 8:52 am

I think men and women equally eat unhealthy, it's just the average young boys and men are more active than the average young female so they burn off the crap they eat and drink.

Middle aged men and women are a bit more equal .



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Actually out of the 3 people I’ve dated, 2 have been overweight, 2 have been unemployed, 2 haven’t had a car, none have had their own house, and 1 has been over six foot.

Also I’ve never met a muscle man who is a deep thinker or non superficial. Maybe I’ve just been unfortunate. Actually, I lie. I’ve met one.

Such a hypocrite.

*makes tongue pokey out faces* :P



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Actually out of the 3 people I’ve dated, 2 have been overweight, 2 have been unemployed, 2 haven’t had a car, none have had their own house, and 1 has been over six foot.

Also I’ve never met a muscle man who is a deep thinker or non superficial. Maybe I’ve just been unfortunate. Actually, I lie. I’ve met one.

Such a hypocrite.

*makes tongue pokey out faces* :P


Well, you and some other women here are hypocrites.

You keep telling the guys here not to judge women, and then you take the freedom to call all men who lift, brainless, which by the way makes no sense... in reality lifting weights is one of the best forms of exercise to increase your brain's plasticity.

It's a false stereotype created by people who need to put others down to feel better about themselves.
We want to feel the world is fair, so we create these false dichotomies in which good looking people ought to be stupid and smart people should be ugly.



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12 Oct 2017, 3:39 pm

If tall guys are more desirable for partners, is is more likely that by the time they hit middle age, that they will be screwed by at least one unfavorable divorce settlement? In other words, it is tough to own a home if the ex wife took it!



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12 Oct 2017, 5:39 pm

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I think they just have lower standards or are more willing to settle rather then be alone.
Society judges people by looks is how it is. Most guys find thin women more attractive then fat women same for men. I just don’t get why I and other men are willing to date bigger women but women aren’t as willing to dat bigger men.

But did they start fat and unemployed or did that happen after they met their gf. Women are more likely to stick it out but not as likely go into s relationship with a fat unemployed man, would you?

Also I would and prefer bigger women. I’ll admit I find thinner women more attractive though.

Cause I’m payed low and I’m bit fat.women have made that quite clear. Those are the main reasons secondary ones that don’t apply to all every woman who’ve rejected me were my lack of sex experience, my not being masculine.

Mostly it’s that according to them I’m not s real man as I don’t have a good job, car and house, and that’s what they define a real man as.


Maybe they find a bit of wobble attractive? Just because someone has a few excess kilos doesn't necessarily make them less valuable in other people's eyes, even though it does in you. I know I prefer chubby men. People are attracted to so many different looks it's not funny. Your assumptions are absolutely pathetic and based on nothing but your own warped thoughts. It's not all about looks, it's not all about weight, it's not all about money, and it's not all about things. You seem quite emotionally immature, maybe one day you will realise this.

The women you attempted to date sound really immature and/or entitled. It's probably not those in the end, one thing that trumps every other trait in men (And women, actually) based on a lifetime of research is good social skills. That, if anything is probably the killer. Even as an aspie female, my social skills mean I've missed out in the past.

An overweight guy with acute self awareness and awareness of others with confidence and ambition is way, way hotter than some muscle man with no brains, or some whiner who doesn't want to succeed at anything except dating. This is not abnormal by any means, a lot of women in the circles I get around with feel the same way.

It takes a special kind of stupid or superficial to want to date a brainless muscle man.

You’re clearly overlaying your own morals and mentality over other women. Here are women on this website who say abguys job and income matter a lot and hey won’t date down. Women say so you n dating sites and Facebook, Twitter and other social media they talk about it at lunch too. I’ll meet you half way and say not all women but the majority do but I doubt your compromise. You’d rather hold up your dream world where all women are like you. I’m quite odd most men aren’t like me they aren’t kind and naive. They yell crude jokes they look at women as sex objects and talk about them as such even the ones with daughters who I bet would freak out if some guy talked about their daughter like they do other women. Men share their sex storiesa about their wife’s and gfs with other guys. This shocks me I’d never share a personal experience with my so that way.

You’d date a guy so fat he barely fits through his front door to leave and the bus sags to the ground when he gets in?

I’m not the “only likes skinny women “ guy you think I am I’m attracted to women with bit extra weight I kinda prefer then for hugs and cuddles. I’ll just openly admit(though maybe not to a bigger girl in dating) that I’m more attracted to thin women sexual. I also wouldn’t not date a thin woman just means being more careful cuddling and hugging.



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12 Oct 2017, 5:54 pm

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Btw, believe it or not, I am on diet!

My last week's blood test showed I have a high LDL (134, while max must be 130) and low HDL (33, while must be 45)

I got freaked, high LDL + low HDL means a higher heart attack risk, my mother has the same combination so it may be genetic.


I weight 60 kg, 5'3 of height.

I changed my lifestyle instantly: I was neglecting cardio training in gym, now i am doing 50 mins of it daily; I dropped all fast food, unnatural sweets (except dark chocolate which is good), less red meat, more fish, more olive oil, more nuts, more vegetables. I cut all fried things, more grilled and baked things.

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Diets suck right? I miss sweets I miss steak and potatoes oh potatoes, fried, baked fries so many kids of potatoes. Know what gets boring rice and chicken.
I’m going try your a day cardio 3 days a week and work towards 5 days a week.



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12 Oct 2017, 6:35 pm

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Actually out of the 3 people I’ve dated, 2 have been overweight, 2 have been unemployed, 2 haven’t had a car, none have had their own house, and 1 has been over six foot.

I hope I'm not intruding but how old were you when you dated these people?


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12 Oct 2017, 8:20 pm

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Actually out of the 3 people I’ve dated, 2 have been overweight, 2 have been unemployed, 2 haven’t had a car, none have had their own house, and 1 has been over six foot.

Also I’ve never met a muscle man who is a deep thinker or non superficial. Maybe I’ve just been unfortunate. Actually, I lie. I’ve met one.

Such a hypocrite.

*makes tongue pokey out faces* :P


Well, you and some other women here are hypocrites.

You keep telling the guys here not to judge women, and then you take the freedom to call all men who lift, brainless, which by the way makes no sense... in reality lifting weights is one of the best forms of exercise to increase your brain's plasticity.

It's a false stereotype created by people who need to put others down to feel better about themselves.
We want to feel the world is fair, so we create these false dichotomies in which good looking people ought to be stupid and smart people should be ugly.


Pretty sure I didn’t say anywhere that all muscle men are brainless, but whatever.