Have You Ever Faced Harassment Charges?

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The_Face_of_Boo
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24 May 2013, 2:53 am

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I personally never ask a girl why she flaked on me. What's the point? She'll never tell you the truth.

My response would be something like "Phew, I wanted to cancel it too but I was too embarassed" :lol:


:lmao:

The core of the issue is there though, if someone I don't really know flakes on me I assume either something really came up, or she is just not that interested. I tell her it's fine (and well, she is under no obligation to see me, really, although making plans with someone and then breaking them is rude), and ask her to pick the next time and place and wait for her reply. If she replies, it means she is interested and then things may proceed; if she doesn't then I move on.


Just to clarify, that would backfire if her flake's reason was genuine (because it sends the message "I am not interested in you either anymore") so I make sure to do this if I am totally sure she flaked on me because she wanted to.

I did it with a young woman who flaked on me like 4 times (long story), the first three sounded genuine but the 4th was obvious, her clingy reaction afterwards was amusing (and kept assuming I was having other dates back then) but I was no longer interested.



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24 May 2013, 3:21 am

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According to the law, the person must state they want an end to the conversation or action before it becomes illegal. The only thing she said was she was calling the police. She never said stop. Otherwise I would humbly complied. I understand I was being aggressive, but i was in a bad mood (my chat body seemed like she might have been a scammer, which made me angry, in addition to some other issues). Normally I wouldn't do this, but I am just tired of getting all flakes. Where are some decent women?


That definitely sounds like harassment. Where are all the decent women? Maybe doing whatever they want, with people who don't harass them. No one owes you their time, even if they've offered it. You do not have the right to make someone feel threatened because they flaked on you. You do not have the right to someone's time.

Regardless of the hyper-misogynists here who will tell you she was a big bad monster and you're just a poor little guy being mistreated by some wicked woman, you do not, I repeat you DO NOT ever have the right to make someone feel threatened because they aren't complying with your demands.

Learn some respect for women,(AND EVERYONE, REALLY) then maybe you can expect the same in return. And I'm sure it would be shocking as sh** to everyone here, but respecting people often DOES garner the same in return.


So if a guy can't read your mind when you want him to go away, he's threatening you and harassing you?


When you are supposed to be able to read in other peoples emotions as an NT can, so you are supposed to have understood that no more contact is wished, and still seek contact while everybody thinks that you have fully understood, that contact isnt wished any longer: Yes.

If you told me to leave in open words, and I resist and follow you instead around and hunt you with multimedia messages, it would be clearly to you that I dont respect your private space that everyone has a right to own. Because why else should I do such an behaviour, when you have told me that you dont want that behaviour anymore.

Stop seeking for someone to blame, and stop struggling with blaming others, to prevent blaming yourself. It is simply an misunderstanding: We are supposed to read NT bodylanguage like NT can, simply because we dont wear any signs on our heads telling everyone: "I AM AN ASPIE. I f****n LACK THE ABILITY TO READ BODYLANGUAGE OR BETWEEN THE LINES!", so the NT simply dont know that we need clear words, that would for many other NTs simply be offending.

There is no blame and no fault in having an misunderstanding. If it happens, simply explain, say that you didnt intent to act in the way it was understood and its done. Its not only about relationships, but this will happen in thousand other situations in work, with relatives, ... as well. But insisting on finding someone to blame and convince yourself that because of your brilliant brain you cant be victim of an normal misunderstanding, so there must be something wrong with everyone else and everyone else is to blame and we are the only one capable of correct communication, while everyone else must be an dumbass, expecting us out of nowwhere to have mindreading superpowers, while they simply expect us to have normal NT communication abilities, is something that is to blame.

Get away from your god complexes. Noone expect you to magically mindread. You were simply expected to have normal NT-abilities, that was a misunderstanding on both sides, accept it and its done.



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24 May 2013, 8:07 am

Ahh I just remembered! I remembered!! !


I was accused of harassment once via okcupid.

I was exchanging messages with that young woman, and I had this habit to use the " :P " emoticon when telling a joke, the exchange chat was all cool and so....and suddenly she was like:
(translated) I AM GONNA CUT YOUR TONGUE!!

I was like "What??"

Her: STOP TONGUING ME!!

I was totally puzzled and turned out that she perceived my " :P " as tonguing her O_o

okcupid women....


This happened to me twice, the 2nd time with another woman on another site.



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24 May 2013, 9:01 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ahh I just remembered! I remembered!! !


I was accused of harassment once via okcupid.

I was exchanging messages with that young woman, and I had this habit to use the " :P " emoticon when telling a joke, the exchange chat was all cool and so....and suddenly she was like:
(translated) I AM GONNA CUT YOUR TONGUE!!

I was like "What??"

Her: STOP TONGUING ME!!

I was totally puzzled and turned out that she perceived my " :P " as tonguing her O_o

okcupid women....


This happened to me twice, the 2nd time with another woman on another site.


Hahahahhahahaahhah :lol:


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24 May 2013, 11:25 am

Schneekugel wrote:
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According to the law, the person must state they want an end to the conversation or action before it becomes illegal. The only thing she said was she was calling the police. She never said stop. Otherwise I would humbly complied. I understand I was being aggressive, but i was in a bad mood (my chat body seemed like she might have been a scammer, which made me angry, in addition to some other issues). Normally I wouldn't do this, but I am just tired of getting all flakes. Where are some decent women?


That definitely sounds like harassment. Where are all the decent women? Maybe doing whatever they want, with people who don't harass them. No one owes you their time, even if they've offered it. You do not have the right to make someone feel threatened because they flaked on you. You do not have the right to someone's time.

Regardless of the hyper-misogynists here who will tell you she was a big bad monster and you're just a poor little guy being mistreated by some wicked woman, you do not, I repeat you DO NOT ever have the right to make someone feel threatened because they aren't complying with your demands.

Learn some respect for women,(AND EVERYONE, REALLY) then maybe you can expect the same in return. And I'm sure it would be shocking as sh** to everyone here, but respecting people often DOES garner the same in return.


So if a guy can't read your mind when you want him to go away, he's threatening you and harassing you?


When you are supposed to be able to read in other peoples emotions as an NT can, so you are supposed to have understood that no more contact is wished, and still seek contact while everybody thinks that you have fully understood, that contact isnt wished any longer: Yes.

If you told me to leave in open words, and I resist and follow you instead around and hunt you with multimedia messages, it would be clearly to you that I dont respect your private space that everyone has a right to own. Because why else should I do such an behaviour, when you have told me that you dont want that behaviour anymore.

Stop seeking for someone to blame, and stop struggling with blaming others, to prevent blaming yourself. It is simply an misunderstanding: We are supposed to read NT bodylanguage like NT can, simply because we dont wear any signs on our heads telling everyone: "I AM AN ASPIE. I f**** LACK THE ABILITY TO READ BODYLANGUAGE OR BETWEEN THE LINES!", so the NT simply dont know that we need clear words, that would for many other NTs simply be offending.

There is no blame and no fault in having an misunderstanding. If it happens, simply explain, say that you didnt intent to act in the way it was understood and its done. Its not only about relationships, but this will happen in thousand other situations in work, with relatives, ... as well. But insisting on finding someone to blame and convince yourself that because of your brilliant brain you cant be victim of an normal misunderstanding, so there must be something wrong with everyone else and everyone else is to blame and we are the only one capable of correct communication, while everyone else must be an dumbass, expecting us out of nowwhere to have mindreading superpowers, while they simply expect us to have normal NT communication abilities, is something that is to blame.

Get away from your god complexes. Noone expect you to magically mindread. You were simply expected to have normal NT-abilities, that was a misunderstanding on both sides, accept it and its done.



I guess I am not trying to accuse anyone, I am just trying to save ass. Get my side of the story. But that is true.



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24 May 2013, 11:28 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ahh I just remembered! I remembered!! !


I was accused of harassment once via okcupid.

I was exchanging messages with that young woman, and I had this habit to use the " :P " emoticon when telling a joke, the exchange chat was all cool and so....and suddenly she was like:
(translated) I AM GONNA CUT YOUR TONGUE!!

I was like "What??"

Her: STOP TONGUING ME!!

I was totally puzzled and turned out that she perceived my " :P " as tonguing her O_o

okcupid women....


This happened to me twice, the 2nd time with another woman on another site.


God, that would suck. In my case, I even messaged to apologize, but she said it was my problem now, not hers. I swear, I hate to be a pessimist, but I am having sour luck with girls around my area. Maybe I need a vacation, go somewhere were I can actually find a women, and not a royal b***h. : rolls eyes: .



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24 May 2013, 12:12 pm

Hmmm sounds a bit like me, I've never been that far but I've made some girls feel really uncomfortable. Guess I'm a creep and since I can't avoid that I've decided not talking to girls I'm sexually attracted to anymore, it sucks but still better than making the girl feel harrashed...

Of course it's not that easy to and sometimes I still talk to a girl.
If a girl talks to me I'm not rude I just try being not friendly.

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God, that would suck. In my case, I even messaged to apologize, but she said it was my problem now, not hers. I swear, I hate to be a pessimist, but I am having sour luck with girls around my area. Maybe I need a vacation, go somewhere were I can actually find a women, and not a royal b***h. : rolls eyes: .


The problem aren't the girls, we're the problem doesn't matter how far we go it will always be the same. The fact that we can't get laid is called evolution.



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24 May 2013, 12:41 pm

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Maybe I need a vacation, go somewhere were I can actually find a women, and not a royal b***h. : rolls eyes: .
That's the spirit! Find a girl that actually likes being harrassed. Let us know how that goes........



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24 May 2013, 1:51 pm

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Maybe I need a vacation, go somewhere were I can actually find a women, and not a royal b***h. : rolls eyes: .
That's the spirit! Find a girl that actually likes being harrassed. Let us know how that goes........


Am I sensing sarcasm, or are you actually suggesting that lol ? (South American culture tends to be Machismo, which I don't agree with per se, but at least you can be a tad more open without being called a perv).



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24 May 2013, 2:00 pm

Now that what went wrong in the original situation has been explained several times and in several ways, this thread ought to be retired.


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