Girl dates me for being nice to her: Matrix glitch report.

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02 Oct 2013, 7:15 pm

Most of the time consent can't be proven anyway.



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02 Oct 2013, 7:25 pm

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Most of the time consent can't be proven anyway.


I readily admit i have no idea what women want. I don't think I'll ever come close to fully grasping it either. If anyone figures it out, come back to the thread and show us what to do.


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02 Oct 2013, 9:25 pm

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I say no more kissing and hugging for free, she needs to make an honest man out of you.



I'm somewhat kidding, but also kinda serious.....but also kinda kidding.


I've had men friends who I really got along with, but didn't have sexual interest in. They ended up ending the friendship when it did not become romantic. I always thought this was a shame, as there are valuable relationships that aren't sexual.

Too often the woman becomes some sort of object to conquest.


But the OP and the girl are already intimately involved..... maybe she's using him as some sort of transition....it's all speculation and I sense humor in this thread via Tequila and others, I'm guessing folks aren't taking it that seriously, just having some fun. But in reality, of course, a guy who stops being friends with a girl because she wont put out, that's absurd. The OP withholding kissing and hugging until the girl puts out, that's absurd too, but it would be hilarious if he tried it....


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02 Oct 2013, 9:42 pm

lol oh lordy lordy what have I done, 9 pages of this nonsense

I originally started this thread as a tongue-in-cheek way of pointing out that girls DO occasionally put a fair bit of value on things like being nice, so long as the "nice" is genuine.

To say the least, I'm pleased with the results.

Btw, she's from Laos. LAOS BOO.



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02 Oct 2013, 9:58 pm

^ It was obvious. You were silent after Loas, and its the only other country in the region. Im just surprised that they're conservative. It could have been tibet or China i guess, but it just doesn't match up.

And yes! Welcome to L&D. Threads are SERIOUS BUSINESS.

P.S. Boo doesn't get to win when he guesses three in one go.



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02 Oct 2013, 10:21 pm

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... but it would be hilarious if he tried it....

He'd be cutting off his nose to spite his face, so to speak.



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03 Oct 2013, 1:27 am

LOL this thread is hilarious.

Shame it turned from a civil discussion to name calling.



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03 Oct 2013, 1:29 am

Duh, I wanted to name it but I thought there are way more Vietnamese immigrants in the US :(



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03 Oct 2013, 5:03 am

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I can't believe the sh** I'm reading in this thread. Some of the advice sounds positively date-rapy..........

No means NO!

Shau, If she says she's not ready for sex, she's not. You shouldn't push it on her. It sounds like you know that already so that's good.


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03 Oct 2013, 5:23 am

Lilya wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
I can't believe the sh** I'm reading in this thread. Some of the advice sounds positively date-rapy..........

No means NO!

Shau, If she says she's not ready for sex, she's not. You shouldn't push it on her. It sounds like you know that already so that's good.


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You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...



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03 Oct 2013, 5:37 am

Shau wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
I can't believe the sh** I'm reading in this thread. Some of the advice sounds positively date-rapy..........

No means NO!

Shau, If she says she's not ready for sex, she's not. You shouldn't push it on her. It sounds like you know that already so that's good.


This


You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...


That's pretty much what my rapist said. I really don't find that funny.


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03 Oct 2013, 5:41 am

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Can you understand what is meant, for example, by an article like this?

Bear in mind that the author is a woman, and that she is very strongly against sexual assault/rape.

She backs up what you are basically saying and she gives an example of a man that had a woman that said 'no' without actually meaning it, he took it literally, she was very offended, then went to have sex with someone else.

The comments put it well. We often don't literally say what we mean.

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You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...


Pack it in, bro.



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03 Oct 2013, 5:52 am

Shau wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
I can't believe the sh** I'm reading in this thread. Some of the advice sounds positively date-rapy..........

No means NO!

Shau, If she says she's not ready for sex, she's not. You shouldn't push it on her. It sounds like you know that already so that's good.


This


You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...


You're a bad boyyy..... not necessarily with you...not necessarily with you....



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03 Oct 2013, 5:58 am

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Lilya wrote:
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Can you understand what is meant, for example, by an article like this?

Bear in mind that the author is a woman, and that she is very strongly against sexual assault/rape.

She backs up what you are basically saying and she gives an example of a man that had a woman that said 'no' without actually meaning it, he took it literally, she was very offended, then went to have sex with someone else.

The comments put it well. We often don't literally say what we mean.

Shau wrote:
You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...


Pack it in, bro.


Her reply:

“Hmmm ... It still sounds to me like you’re implying that it’s the women who are sending mixed signals ... not the men who don’t know how to read them as something other than what they want to read. I doubt that any woman who felt raped and protested during the act would feel it’s fair on her to say she sent mixed signals when she told him to stop.”

You are talking about exceptions. If "no" is a game (which it most often isn't), it's usually accompanied by a flirty smile and tantalizing, flirtatious body language, like referred in the article as well. It's a horrid excuse to attack on a woman because she wasn't didn't say no "in the right way".

If she is not comfortable, one should stop. It doesn't have to mean she will never be comfortable enough, she may just need more time and trust, but until that, you have no right to be selfish enough to push it. This is typical, and different to the "game" you're talking about. Don't force to read signals or comments as you want them to be.


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03 Oct 2013, 5:59 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Shau wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
I can't believe the sh** I'm reading in this thread. Some of the advice sounds positively date-rapy..........

No means NO!

Shau, If she says she's not ready for sex, she's not. You shouldn't push it on her. It sounds like you know that already so that's good.


This


You're a good giiirrrll.....you know you want it...you know you want it...


You're a bad boyyy..... not necessarily with you...not necessarily with you....


STOP THAT

Is that clear enough?


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03 Oct 2013, 6:01 am

I was in fact criticizing Shau.