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31 Dec 2016, 6:01 am

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Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
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Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.


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31 Dec 2016, 6:13 am

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Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
sly279 wrote:
Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.
we'll be killed off. Maybe a virus outbreak or another world war. Or just left to starve to death in FEMA camps or gettos. Rest assured once the rich don't need the labor force they'll figure a way to get ride of us. The middle class will be next. They'll be the defectors new poor. Rich only desire more money. They don't need poor or middle class, as soon as they figure a way they'll get ride of 99% of the population. Until then they'll continue to distract the middle class while they rob them by making them hate the poor. It's a cleaver deception.

Mean they'll already have robti lawyer ai, working on therapist ai, ask yourself what job does the middle class preform that can't one day be replaced? When have the rich every done anything that didn't benefit them?



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31 Dec 2016, 6:19 am

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Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
sly279 wrote:
Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.
we'll be killed off. Maybe a virus outbreak or another world war. Or just left to starve to death in FEMA camps or gettos. Rest assured once the rich don't need the labor force they'll figure a way to get ride of us. The middle class will be next. They'll be the defectors new poor. Rich only desire more money. They don't need poor or middle class, as soon as they figure a way they'll get ride of 99% of the population. Until then they'll continue to distract the middle class while they rob them by making them hate the poor. It's a cleaver deception.

Mean they'll already have robti lawyer ai, working on therapist ai, ask yourself what job does the middle class preform that can't one day be replaced? When have the rich every done anything that didn't benefit them?
Maybe they can manufacture their goods without the poor or middle class but if they kill them off there will be no one to buy their goods.

I think they'll turn us into docile, gullible, unthinking consumer cows who exist only to buy their products.


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31 Dec 2016, 6:23 am

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But Sly when you talk about women having careers, it's not just for money. They are intelligent women who want to do something challenging and interesting. Working in Wallmart would bore them to the point of being suicidal.
This is very true. One of the reasons I want to be promoted is so I can have more interesting work.

Sadly, I think there may a few hidden geniuses working at Walmart because circumstances did not allow them to become scientists.
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They probably want a guy who needs to do something more interesting too and can't understand why anyone would do something boring for a job.
I can relate to this. I've rejected women for being unintelligent and boring and I've also rejected women who were smart but still boring.
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Boring jobs are still important.
For now. According to Michio Kaku's physics of the future, the boring jobs will be replaced by machines but the intellectual and/or creative jobs will be retained by us humans.

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How are people going to buy eggs if no one is willing to sell them? Everyone is import, but not everyone is compatible.
The most probable scenario is for the eggs to be delivered by drone. but pneumatic tube would also be a good idea.


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Someone with an active mind needs someone else with an active mind.
This is very true :)
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Caring about people and the world is overrated, draining and stressful. Empathy is horrible. I'm sick of empathy. It's seeming to die out in me though. I'm starting to care less about other people. They don't give two cents about me and others like me, so why am I hardwired to do it. Worlds horrible. Best thing to happen would be it ending. Let the planet heal without use horrible humans killed nt and hurting each other with them plant and animals paying the price too. Like the movie where the plants started killing humans. The happening I think it was called. The way humans treat each other is god awful. Why anyone wants to save th human race is beyond me. No wonder aliens don't want to contact us.
That kind of attitude will not improve your chances of getting a girlfriend. I don't think girls will be impressed by that.


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31 Dec 2016, 6:29 am

I know my.posts are long.

Read half one day then the other half another.

People have work and errands, I don't mean to waste anyone's time.

Whatever.

I'm an existentialist/nihilist, every thing I do and say does not matter, life is meaningless, so I will make long posts anyway no.matter how pointless I think they are.

I dontthink my long posts at disorganized, but maybe they are because I type so quickly and aggressively.



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31 Dec 2016, 6:50 am

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I know my.posts are long.

Read half one day then the other half another.

People have work and errands, I don't mean to waste anyone's time.

Whatever.

I'm an existentialist/nihilist, every thing I do and say does not matter, life is meaningless, so I will make long posts anyway no.matter how pointless I think they are.

I dontthink my long posts at disorganized, but maybe they are because I type so quickly and aggressively.


Actually what I mean is I may only respond to one thing and I don't want you to feel like I'm ignoring part of what you say as if it's irrelevant. It's just that I.may have missed I in first rad over, like I didn't pick up on your love of nature at first. Just as long as you know I'm not ignoring things you say.



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31 Dec 2016, 6:54 am

BTW all. If you find people around you are too materialistic. Don't internalise that. Don't think it means you are not good enough. If you have other values and interests these people aren't what you need.

Having a materialistic wife when you are not will drag you down emotionally...I've seen that happen too. You need someone who can share your life too. It's not just about what women want.

Being content with what you have is better for the soul than chasing the wind all the time.



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31 Dec 2016, 7:54 am

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I know my.posts are long.

Read half one day then the other half another.

People have work and errands, I don't mean to waste anyone's time.

Whatever.

I'm an existentialist/nihilist, every thing I do and say does not matter, life is meaningless, so I will make long posts anyway no.matter how pointless I think they are.

I dontthink my long posts at disorganized, but maybe they are because I type so quickly and aggressively.

You're not alone. I tend to go through creative bursts and enjoy fully fleshing out my thoughts until I've exhausted them. I say all I need to say, get bored, and then you won't see me on WP for another year.



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31 Dec 2016, 8:25 am

I feel like nihilism and misanthropy are in no short demand with anybody. If people are miserable then they are doing something wrong, our value systems have been corrupted and it seems like some people have a very Disney view of how things should be. Saying everyone is important and that they all have a role is a meaningless and false platitude that the person speaking does not even believe, I for one do not care to prove my value to the rest of humanity and resent that I'm expected to give back to something that gives nothing to me. Do you go on vacations by yourself? Do you go make reservations at restaurants for just yourself?

What is boring and not boring, what are all these people doing that they think gives meaning to their lives? Not something that is elaborated, what is boring and isn't a two way street? Is that not having enough money, not being ambitious enough as far career and relationships go, not opening enough doors? I feel that is very judgemental and prejudice towards other people without knowing them to say things like that, you have to justify your own existence first if you want to do that.



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31 Dec 2016, 8:43 am

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RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
sly279 wrote:
Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.
we'll be killed off. Maybe a virus outbreak or another world war. Or just left to starve to death in FEMA camps or gettos. Rest assured once the rich don't need the labor force they'll figure a way to get ride of us. The middle class will be next. They'll be the defectors new poor. Rich only desire more money. They don't need poor or middle class, as soon as they figure a way they'll get ride of 99% of the population. Until then they'll continue to distract the middle class while they rob them by making them hate the poor. It's a cleaver deception.

Mean they'll already have robti lawyer ai, working on therapist ai, ask yourself what job does the middle class preform that can't one day be replaced? When have the rich every done anything that didn't benefit them?

I've met a few rich people and am even friends with a few of them. I don't get that at all. The rich people I know are rich for two reasons: They have abilities most people do not and are thus in constant demand, and they are crazy-generous. They just throw money at people, and a funny thing happens--because they are so loose with their money, people want to keep giving them more. They trust these guys to keep doing good things, so they throw money at them faster than they can spend it.

You can always tell who's only in it for the money because, a) they never have any, and b) they burn out fast. Jesus said that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. The beauty of money is not money itself, but the things that money can buy. It brings peace and freedom. It enables us to keep doing things we really love. It's merely a tool. And people who pursue money for its own sake will lose every time.

I know Trump has a lot of haters, but he's a good example. Reality/game shows like the Apprentice lay bare principles of successfully doing business in ways that entertain and inspire. What is that if not a service to aspiring leaders? The guy voluntarily took a massive demotion and pay cut to take the most thankless service job in probably the whole world.

I think mostly the issue is about personality and misunderstanding that. What about Bill Gates or the late, great Steve Jobs? They provide the best service to computer users, pay all their employees, and STILL have money rolling in. They set up charitable foundations and still can't get rid of their money fast enough. Because they are great guys who have done awesome things for people.

The thing is, you don't have to be rich to do any of that. Just love people and help them. I earned an extra $1500 for taking extra responsibilities during a transition time while we were looking for a replacement for this job. I gave all but $100 away, mostly to support what I was doing while working with these people. A funny thing happened: people started gifting me money, that tripled my emergency fund. If I lost my job tomorrow, I could pay my bills for 3 months because people were generous towards me.

People get rich and stay rich for a reason. Don't hate them. Ask them for help instead. Get to know them. Invent excuses to hang out with them. I got a wealthy, famous person to babysit my three kids while my wife and I went to a staff Christmas party. Trust me, they have much more love for humanity than we have hate for them.



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I feel like nihilism and misanthropy are in no short demand with anybody. If people are miserable then they are doing something wrong, our value systems have been corrupted and it seems like some people have a very Disney view of how things should be. Saying everyone is important and that they all have a role is a meaningless and false platitude that the person speaking does not even believe, I for one do not care to prove my value to the rest of humanity and resent that I'm expected to give back to something that gives nothing to me. Do you go on vacations by yourself? Do you go make reservations at restaurants for just yourself?

What is boring and not boring, what are all these people doing that they think gives meaning to their lives? Not something that is elaborated, what is boring and isn't a two way street? Is that not having enough money, not being ambitious enough as far career and relationships go, not opening enough doors? I feel that is very judgemental and prejudice towards other people without knowing them to say things like that, you have to justify your own existence first if you want to do that.


I don't understand your attitude. Making meaningful connections makes life better. It's actually not true that in giving you get nothing back. You get a sense of purpose. It's even just simple things, you don't have to go and save the giraffes or whatever, you can just write a nice card for an old aunt. Then there's that little happy feeling you get from doing something nice. I like that. I like people who are giving of their time.

Yes you're right, what is boring is subjective. I think that chasing after people who are not interested in the same things or lifestyle as us or bitching about their lifestyle is a waste of time. Go and seek out the things you love and enjoy and find people that share that outlook.

It's not a good idea to take people at face value. I used to like a gardener/labourer who is one of the most interesting and intelligent people I know. Materialistic girls would write him off. But you can tell through conversing with someone whether they are boring or not to you personally.

I really disagree. Every job has worth otherwise you wouldn't get paid to do it. Arguable my profession has the least worth because you'd happily pay a gardener because you see the time and effort they put into your garden and you see the results, but a programmer makes the magic computer box work and none programmers don't understand the amount of time that takes. They think you can just magic up a website without any coding or effort and therefore don't deserve much because the magic box just does it all. Read http://www.clientsfromhell.net for examples.



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AngelRho wrote:
sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
sly279 wrote:
Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.
we'll be killed off. Maybe a virus outbreak or another world war. Or just left to starve to death in FEMA camps or gettos. Rest assured once the rich don't need the labor force they'll figure a way to get ride of us. The middle class will be next. They'll be the defectors new poor. Rich only desire more money. They don't need poor or middle class, as soon as they figure a way they'll get ride of 99% of the population. Until then they'll continue to distract the middle class while they rob them by making them hate the poor. It's a cleaver deception.

Mean they'll already have robti lawyer ai, working on therapist ai, ask yourself what job does the middle class preform that can't one day be replaced? When have the rich every done anything that didn't benefit them?

I've met a few rich people and am even friends with a few of them. I don't get that at all. The rich people I know are rich for two reasons: They have abilities most people do not and are thus in constant demand, and they are crazy-generous. They just throw money at people, and a funny thing happens--because they are so loose with their money, people want to keep giving them more. They trust these guys to keep doing good things, so they throw money at them faster than they can spend it.

You can always tell who's only in it for the money because, a) they never have any, and b) they burn out fast. Jesus said that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. The beauty of money is not money itself, but the things that money can buy. It brings peace and freedom. It enables us to keep doing things we really love. It's merely a tool. And people who pursue money for its own sake will lose every time.

I know Trump has a lot of haters, but he's a good example. Reality/game shows like the Apprentice lay bare principles of successfully doing business in ways that entertain and inspire. What is that if not a service to aspiring leaders? The guy voluntarily took a massive demotion and pay cut to take the most thankless service job in probably the whole world.

I think mostly the issue is about personality and misunderstanding that. What about Bill Gates or the late, great Steve Jobs? They provide the best service to computer users, pay all their employees, and STILL have money rolling in. They set up charitable foundations and still can't get rid of their money fast enough. Because they are great guys who have done awesome things for people.

The thing is, you don't have to be rich to do any of that. Just love people and help them. I earned an extra $1500 for taking extra responsibilities during a transition time while we were looking for a replacement for this job. I gave all but $100 away, mostly to support what I was doing while working with these people. A funny thing happened: people started gifting me money, that tripled my emergency fund. If I lost my job tomorrow, I could pay my bills for 3 months because people were generous towards me.

People get rich and stay rich for a reason. Don't hate them. Ask them for help instead. Get to know them. Invent excuses to hang out with them. I got a wealthy, famous person to babysit my three kids while my wife and I went to a staff Christmas party. Trust me, they have much more love for humanity than we have hate for them.


It's "The Other". People like to lump those who are different into a group and blame them because they are not like them and they don't understand them.

Wealthy people are "the other". Women are "the other". I don't think you can reason with that. Even with examples of real people. "The other" will always be misunderstood and demonised by those who want to. Especially by frustrated souls on the internet.



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31 Dec 2016, 10:33 pm

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If people are miserable then they are doing something wrong, our value systems have been corrupted and it seems like some people have a very Disney view of how things should be.
Yeah. That's a sure sign of a dystopia.

A corrupt society will never say it's corrupt. A corrupt society will always present itself as a Disneyland Utopia. Just like Disneyland, none of it's real. This is starting to happen in the West but in small dictatorships it happens much faster. Just look at these Disneyesque propaganda posters from North Korea.

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I don't understand your attitude. Making meaningful connections makes life better. It's actually not true that in giving you get nothing back. You get a sense of purpose. It's even just simple things, you don't have to go and save the giraffes or whatever, you can just write a nice card for an old aunt. Then there's that little happy feeling you get from doing something nice. I like that. I like people who are giving of their time.

Yes you're right, what is boring is subjective. I think that chasing after people who are not interested in the same things or lifestyle as us or bitching about their lifestyle is a waste of time. Go and seek out the things you love and enjoy and find people that share that outlook.

It's not a good idea to take people at face value. I used to like a gardener/labourer who is one of the most interesting and intelligent people I know. Materialistic girls would write him off. But you can tell through conversing with someone whether they are boring or not to you personally.

I really disagree. Every job has worth otherwise you wouldn't get paid to do it. Arguable my profession has the least worth because you'd happily pay a gardener because you see the time and effort they put into your garden and you see the results, but a programmer makes the magic computer box work and none programmers don't understand the amount of time that takes. They think you can just magic up a website without any coding or effort and therefore don't deserve much because the magic box just does it all. Read http://www.clientsfromhell.net for examples.


Excuse my posts and attitude, this forum is basically depression porn and I get triggered sometimes. There is a hierarchy of needs and perhaps I am lower down on it, I struggle to get by so I don't like hearing 'just be happy with what you got' since I wouldn't put myself thru the pain and stress that I do if I gave up on trying to be accepted or to live a normal life. I am an anxious and avoidant person naturally, all my interactions are framed by that and I have to fight against those instincts in almost everything I do. "Be yourself' is not apt advice for everyone, honestly it's sort of an arrogant thing to say as we are all imperfect beings.

I work with computers too, I find it hard to take pride in it and I develop into more of Luddite the older I get. I can do it I guess, I spend a lot of time on computers so they thought I have an aptitude for it but it just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe something is wrong with me, I know there is but in addition I've never been able to take praise or to take pride in academic accomplishment. I hate school, I hate that there is so much that I have to put myself thru, it's never good enough.



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hurtloam wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yes but I'm talking about the women who wanted the whole package, but did the career first figuring after they got that done they'd have resources to better have the family. They complain then about not being able to have kids or find a quality guy to do it with. It's a growing problem
While I applaud those women for having a good career I think they'd be better off if they never had kids.
sly279 wrote:
Still centuries away from Ai and robotics being able to fully replace poor people. And then the middle class will become the new poor until th rich figure how to replace them too.
What will become of the poor if all the labour is done by AI and robotics?

Will the upper class expect you to find a job that doesn't exist because all the poor people jobs were replaced by robots? Will the upper class call you lazy for not finding one of the non-existent jobs?

I find this vision of the future to be quite troubling.
we'll be killed off. Maybe a virus outbreak or another world war. Or just left to starve to death in FEMA camps or gettos. Rest assured once the rich don't need the labor force they'll figure a way to get ride of us. The middle class will be next. They'll be the defectors new poor. Rich only desire more money. They don't need poor or middle class, as soon as they figure a way they'll get ride of 99% of the population. Until then they'll continue to distract the middle class while they rob them by making them hate the poor. It's a cleaver deception.

Mean they'll already have robti lawyer ai, working on therapist ai, ask yourself what job does the middle class preform that can't one day be replaced? When have the rich every done anything that didn't benefit them?

I've met a few rich people and am even friends with a few of them. I don't get that at all. The rich people I know are rich for two reasons: They have abilities most people do not and are thus in constant demand, and they are crazy-generous. They just throw money at people, and a funny thing happens--because they are so loose with their money, people want to keep giving them more. They trust these guys to keep doing good things, so they throw money at them faster than they can spend it.

You can always tell who's only in it for the money because, a) they never have any, and b) they burn out fast. Jesus said that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. The beauty of money is not money itself, but the things that money can buy. It brings peace and freedom. It enables us to keep doing things we really love. It's merely a tool. And people who pursue money for its own sake will lose every time.

I know Trump has a lot of haters, but he's a good example. Reality/game shows like the Apprentice lay bare principles of successfully doing business in ways that entertain and inspire. What is that if not a service to aspiring leaders? The guy voluntarily took a massive demotion and pay cut to take the most thankless service job in probably the whole world.

I think mostly the issue is about personality and misunderstanding that. What about Bill Gates or the late, great Steve Jobs? They provide the best service to computer users, pay all their employees, and STILL have money rolling in. They set up charitable foundations and still can't get rid of their money fast enough. Because they are great guys who have done awesome things for people.

The thing is, you don't have to be rich to do any of that. Just love people and help them. I earned an extra $1500 for taking extra responsibilities during a transition time while we were looking for a replacement for this job. I gave all but $100 away, mostly to support what I was doing while working with these people. A funny thing happened: people started gifting me money, that tripled my emergency fund. If I lost my job tomorrow, I could pay my bills for 3 months because people were generous towards me.

People get rich and stay rich for a reason. Don't hate them. Ask them for help instead. Get to know them. Invent excuses to hang out with them. I got a wealthy, famous person to babysit my three kids while my wife and I went to a staff Christmas party. Trust me, they have much more love for humanity than we have hate for them.


It's "The Other". People like to lump those who are different into a group and blame them because they are not like them and they don't understand them.

Wealthy people are "the other". Women are "the other". I don't think you can reason with that. Even with examples of real people. "The other" will always be misunderstood and demonised by those who want to. Especially by frustrated souls on the internet.

Indeed.



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Jacoby wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I don't understand your attitude. Making meaningful connections makes life better. It's actually not true that in giving you get nothing back. You get a sense of purpose. It's even just simple things, you don't have to go and save the giraffes or whatever, you can just write a nice card for an old aunt. Then there's that little happy feeling you get from doing something nice. I like that. I like people who are giving of their time.

Yes you're right, what is boring is subjective. I think that chasing after people who are not interested in the same things or lifestyle as us or bitching about their lifestyle is a waste of time. Go and seek out the things you love and enjoy and find people that share that outlook.

It's not a good idea to take people at face value. I used to like a gardener/labourer who is one of the most interesting and intelligent people I know. Materialistic girls would write him off. But you can tell through conversing with someone whether they are boring or not to you personally.

I really disagree. Every job has worth otherwise you wouldn't get paid to do it. Arguable my profession has the least worth because you'd happily pay a gardener because you see the time and effort they put into your garden and you see the results, but a programmer makes the magic computer box work and none programmers don't understand the amount of time that takes. They think you can just magic up a website without any coding or effort and therefore don't deserve much because the magic box just does it all. Read http://www.clientsfromhell.net for examples.


Excuse my posts and attitude, this forum is basically depression porn and I get triggered sometimes. There is a hierarchy of needs and perhaps I am lower down on it, I struggle to get by so I don't like hearing 'just be happy with what you got' since I wouldn't put myself thru the pain and stress that I do if I gave up on trying to be accepted or to live a normal life. I am an anxious and avoidant person naturally, all my interactions are framed by that and I have to fight against those instincts in almost everything I do. "Be yourself' is not apt advice for everyone, honestly it's sort of an arrogant thing to say as we are all imperfect beings.

I work with computers too, I find it hard to take pride in it and I develop into more of Luddite the older I get. I can do it I guess, I spend a lot of time on computers so they thought I have an aptitude for it but it just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe something is wrong with me, I know there is but in addition I've never been able to take praise or to take pride in academic accomplishment. I hate school, I hate that there is so much that I have to put myself thru, it's never good enough.


Working with computers can be a stressful thing. Although I enjoy it to a certain extent I always feel like I've got something hanging over my head in terms of having to keep on learning more and more to keep up with changing ways of doing things and learning more skills. I feel pressure not to stagnate, and I feel like I'm not good enough, because I know that there is so muh more to learn and I know I can do more, but I don't want to. I don't know where to draw the line. I feel so tired of it sometimes. I keep thinking, how did I end up doing this? But then admin bored me and it was a natural progression. Sometimes I love my job, but sometimes I resent it and I want to be outside doing other things, not trapped in an office all day.

I don't know that contentment equals happy with what you've got. I think it can allow for change and adaptation. I think I may read up a bit on ideas about contentment, You've got me thinking about it now. Being told "be content" is kind of similar to telling a glum person, "just cheer up". It's not a thing we can just decide to do I guess. But I do believe in looking for the positive in simple everyday things rather than focussing on out of reach dreams or comparisons to people with totally unreachable lives. I'd love to be a professional singer for example, not for money or fame, but because I enjoy singing. That is not going to happen, so instead I am content with not doing that job, but finding something more realistic to do.