Why are women grossed out by the male body?

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24 Aug 2017, 11:46 am

Socialization teaches women to say culturally appropriate things about sensitive topics. In cultures that accept female sexuality, or in cultures where nudity is no big deal, women say different things. I think women mean what they say, but people in this thread have confused monotheistic cultural values with biology.

Given a context where people accept or even expect women to express arousal at the sight of a naked man, most women do. Some of those who don't simply have a different sense of aesthetics, or are repressed, or are asexual, or are quiet by nature.

The only biological difference I've seen related to the sense of smell. Women tend to have higher sensitivity to arousal by smell, although men have some, too. Last I read, diet matters a lot. Increased salad and reduced carbohydrate consumption by men correlated with a higher attractiveness rating given by women who only smelled t-shirts that the men had worn. Eating meat or not made no significant difference.

Try watching Sex and the City, with a group of women, if possible.


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24 Aug 2017, 12:09 pm

Just don't do it in front of your husband LOL

People look at each other all the time----even people in extremely committed marriages.



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24 Aug 2017, 12:15 pm

I think a classic trope says a lot. The woman appears shocked and puts her hand over her eyes, and then peeks between her fingers.


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24 Aug 2017, 2:50 pm

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kdm1984 wrote:
Well, I couldn't "help it" as a teenager, either, and I also tried to justify it by qualifying how I'm not actually having sex with the guys I was staring at.


I think that is an important point (and difference). Most sexual guys (NTs), actually dream of having sex with the girls they stare at, but that is less common for ND guys (especially if they identify as asexual too), and I think this is also a feature of girls that are not grossed out by the male body.


i just dream of having sex with a giant stuffed bear :D :D :D :D :) :) :) :heart: :heart: :heart:,since i'm gonna be single forever because of my aspergers,based on how severely awkward i appear to women & girls of my own age the same way other male aspies do,whether in high school :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: or the neighborhood



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25 Aug 2017, 7:56 am

Don't know if this has been said yet but I'm not reading 9 pages. I'll agree with this memorable Seinfeld quote.

Elaine: "Whoa! Walking around naked? Ahh... that is not a good look for a
man."
George: "Why not? It's a good look for a woman."
Elaine: "Well, the female body is a... work of art. The male body is
utilitarian, it's for gettin' around, like a jeep."
Jerry: "So you don't think it's attractive?"
Elaine: "It's hideous. The hair, the... the lumpiness. It's simian."
George: "Well, some women like it."
Elaine: "Hmm. Sickies."


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31 Aug 2017, 5:24 am

Again, I offer a refutation of the absurd idea in the thread title.

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This only represents the level of interest of women in that body type. Plenty of women have an interest in looking at other men's bodies, despite the tired, sexist claims of many MRA/PUA-types here. Of course, men who see women as objects for them to manipulate probably never have that interesting of a conversation with women.


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31 Aug 2017, 9:46 am

ESPN The Body issue was my last downfall. Some of those athlete guys...wow...especially one particular fellow from a couple of years ago. Not gonna mention his name 'cuz I don't want innocent eyes looking.

Don't dig and try to find that one, jr jones! :o



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31 Aug 2017, 5:04 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Again, I offer a refutation of the absurd idea in the thread title.

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This only represents the level of interest of women in that body type. Plenty of women have an interest in looking at other men's bodies, despite the tired, sexist claims of many MRA/PUA-types here. Of course, men who see women as objects for them to manipulate probably never have that interesting of a conversation with women.

It's hardly a refutation, sorry to say. You're talking about a fully waxed, photoshopped, several hours a day at the gym, commercialized, Hollywood ideal version of men. I work out at the Y 4-5 days most weeks, run nearly 4 miles for 3 days a week, and I STILL look as flabby and untoned as I did when I was 60 lbs. heavier. I still have a carpet on my chest, another carpet creeping up my back, and a distinct bald pattern. I'm not saying most men are as ugly as I am, but neither are most men as pretty as Magic Mike. The average guy is a long way from that.



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31 Aug 2017, 5:09 pm

It was easy to find. Google dad bod for links to blogs from women who prefer your body type.


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31 Aug 2017, 5:19 pm

AngelRho, you aren't refuting the argument at all. The average woman is also a long way from the blonde and curvy 36-24-36 ideal espoused by popular culture. We're talking about attractiveness, here. All other things being equal, a handsome and well-toned guy is going to get noticed and admired by a woman, just like a beautiful, curvy woman is going to get noticed and admired by a man.



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31 Aug 2017, 5:34 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
It was easy to find. Google dad bod for links to blogs from women who prefer your body type.

I got the "dad bod" before I turned 25, long before I actually became a dad. Part of it was picking up so many bad habits in a relationship that lasted 6 years too long with a girl who knew her way around a buffet line a little too well. The other part was moving to another part of the country to finish school where GREAT food was more readily available, all without correcting the aforementioned bad habits.

Now I have a wife who rides my @$$ about it, but I don't mind so much because getting my high school weight back and keeping it feels good.

I get that some girls dig the daddy. I'm well aware of that. But I doubt the girls at Magic Mike's club would appreciate it in quite the same way.

I feel compelled to let everyone in on what I did today. I'm pathetically underemployed, so I turn that to a positive by working out during the day when I'm not teaching a class. Well, the remnants of Harvey are passing through my area, and the pool opens at 11:30. I had time for a swim, so I had to ask the lifeguard, who CLEARLY did not want to be there, to let me in the pool while a light rain was coming through. Very nice, attractive girl. Moved a chair to the covered entrance while I put in my 10 laps. I've never felt comfortable taking off my shirt in front of ANY woman, especially not one I'm not married to, and here I am. The whole time I'm thinking how she's probably thinking I've lost my mind. And she locked the gate as soon as I was done.

I'll never be comfortable with it, but the pool closes for the season after next month. But what else can I do about it?

It's like how I tell guys in here you can't let stuff like that bother you. I may be ugly. But I have as much a right to live as anyone.



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31 Aug 2017, 5:40 pm

It occurred to me that your dating advice might have some drawbacks. I don't mean to pile on, but consider disclosure in those threads.


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31 Aug 2017, 6:02 pm

Women are not grossed out by the male body.


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31 Aug 2017, 6:58 pm

kdm1984 wrote:
AngelRho, you aren't refuting the argument at all. The average woman is also a long way from the blonde and curvy 36-24-36 ideal espoused by popular culture. We're talking about attractiveness, here. All other things being equal, a handsome and well-toned guy is going to get noticed and admired by a woman, just like a beautiful, curvy woman is going to get noticed and admired by a man.

Are you saying the average male bod is the "Magic Mike" bod?

There's more to attractiveness than a body or a body type.

Despite that, though, the female body, even if she "has a few curves" is still more aesthetically appealing than a man of similar build.

If you're saying you think my spare tire, my bear rug(s), and my moobs are hot, you are by far the exception.



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31 Aug 2017, 6:59 pm

You've completely lost what the original thread was about.



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31 Aug 2017, 7:02 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Women are not grossed out by the male body.


And yet no matter how much we try to explain we aren't, some people will never grasp this fact. :roll:

Last post here: I'm a heterosexual female. I'm not attracted to the female body and its lumps, bumps, and curves. I'm attracted to a fit male body with lean muscle. Never will I be more attracted to a woman than I am to my husband.

The rest of you can debate whatever remote things you want, but this is my final word.