Why are women so triggered by the friendzone?
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The more cynical part of me says use them like they want to use you. If you get a good job date bunch of women never settling down. The idealist in me wants to believe in love but it doesn't exist. Mind you most women will trick themselves into believing they love you but it's really your money and status. You might find a good one though. Lots of women also complain they guy works all the time and thus cheat on him too. That's how you make good money you work all the time.
I dont know I have some mean ideas if I ever win the lottery, take them on a romantic date then show off my car and leave hem to pay lol
So if you actually finally met someone interested in you, you would take them on a date and just ditch them...to get back at women who love money and status? Seems kind of self defeating....
I dont know and that only if I won the lottery which means they only datingnme cause then I'd have the house, car and Income. So suddenly getting intertest from women right after winning would be super supciious
Especially from the women who say don't message me unless you have car food hob and house. Don't think such women would deserve me and likely only see me as money.
I'd probably only take women who don't mention such things on real dates. They far more likely of having real love then one who requires status and money to love someone.
Non of that's going happen anyways and I'm too nice to do it it's just a mean fantasy I guess
Doesn't some part of you wish you could make those men who used you for sex know what it felt like?
Don't trust people who dislike you one day then like you suddenly when you have something they want. It's not real.
Ah alright that makes a lot more sense, lol...
And yes I suppose there is a part of me that wishes that.
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The more cynical part of me says use them like they want to use you. If you get a good job date bunch of women never settling down. The idealist in me wants to believe in love but it doesn't exist. Mind you most women will trick themselves into believing they love you but it's really your money and status. You might find a good one though. Lots of women also complain they guy works all the time and thus cheat on him too. That's how you make good money you work all the time.
I dont know I have some mean ideas if I ever win the lottery, take them on a romantic date then show off my car and leave hem to pay lol
My girlfriend intends on pursuing a doctorate. She hasn't expressed concerns over my level of schooling. Even though she has hardly any income since school takes up so much time she's really uncomfortable with me having to pay the full costs over her visiting (and basically won't allow it, intervenes to ensure it isn't possible). I don't say this to brag, but to point out how broad the spectrum is.
I think people's views regarding relationships and gender roles within them are broader than you're willing to accept. Think about all the people you've met online who have drastically different views of those things compared to your own (and all the ways they disagree with each other); as well as how many agree with yours either in whole or in part - that's the crazy spectrum of people's views on dating and what you need to bring to the table to play before they get to meet you - and most people are flexible if they're charmed.
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Why is this such a common thing?
Why do guys make dumb posts like this?
Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
The more cynical part of me says use them like they want to use you. If you get a good job date bunch of women never settling down. The idealist in me wants to believe in love but it doesn't exist. Mind you most women will trick themselves into believing they love you but it's really your money and status. You might find a good one though. Lots of women also complain they guy works all the time and thus cheat on him too. That's how you make good money you work all the time.
I dont know I have some mean ideas if I ever win the lottery, take them on a romantic date then show off my car and leave hem to pay lol
My girlfriend intends on pursuing a doctorate. She hasn't expressed concerns over my level of schooling. Even though she has hardly any income since school takes up so much time she's really uncomfortable with me having to pay the full costs over her visiting (and basically won't allow it, intervenes to ensure it isn't possible). I don't say this to brag, but to point out how broad the spectrum is.
I think people's views regarding relationships and gender roles within them are broader than you're willing to accept. Think about all the people you've met online who have drastically different views of those things compared to your own (and all the ways they disagree with each other); as well as how many agree with yours either in whole or in part - that's the crazy spectrum of people's views on dating and what you need to bring to the table to play before they get to meet you - and most people are flexible if they're charmed.
Hard to charm someone you're not allowed to message or talk to.
I make girls smile and laugh. Atleast the ones who'll talk to me.
I've had a lot of married or coupled women say I'd make a good boyfriend in aspects other then income. Probably cause I'm loyal, romantic, kind, funny and so my best to make women happy and smile.
I meet a lot of women's requirements except the income, car and house. Really bummer to read a woman's profile and feel a real connection and that the guy they want describes me only to see at the bottom dont message me unless you have a good job, car and your own place or "have your life together"(which means having the 3 previous things)
Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
I know, right? Just look at the language men use to describe the friend zone. They ask for advice on how to "escape" the friend zone. Even the term "friend zone" makes me think of the phantom zone, which is an interdimensional prison Superman sends his worst enemies to. It shows massive levels of entitlement; the friend zoned man suggests that he is being deprived of his "rights". This is high-level misogyny.
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The more cynical part of me says use them like they want to use you. If you get a good job date bunch of women never settling down. The idealist in me wants to believe in love but it doesn't exist. Mind you most women will trick themselves into believing they love you but it's really your money and status. You might find a good one though. Lots of women also complain they guy works all the time and thus cheat on him too. That's how you make good money you work all the time.
I dont know I have some mean ideas if I ever win the lottery, take them on a romantic date then show off my car and leave hem to pay lol
My girlfriend intends on pursuing a doctorate. She hasn't expressed concerns over my level of schooling. Even though she has hardly any income since school takes up so much time she's really uncomfortable with me having to pay the full costs over her visiting (and basically won't allow it, intervenes to ensure it isn't possible). I don't say this to brag, but to point out how broad the spectrum is.
I think people's views regarding relationships and gender roles within them are broader than you're willing to accept. Think about all the people you've met online who have drastically different views of those things compared to your own (and all the ways they disagree with each other); as well as how many agree with yours either in whole or in part - that's the crazy spectrum of people's views on dating and what you need to bring to the table to play before they get to meet you - and most people are flexible if they're charmed.
But in reality, at the end of the day, you're the one who's paying (and willing to cover all) - how will be she covering the rest of her doctorate costs?
Now let's reverse this, if you were the one pursuing the doctorate, do you think you will find a working gf who will accept to cover all or even some of your costs till you finish?
Your case is typical, not a special case - it's the reverse which is more needs to be seen.
You can try this with your current gf after she finishes hers
Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
I know, right? Just look at the language men use to describe the friend zone. They ask for advice on how to "escape" the friend zone. Even the term "friend zone" makes me think of the phantom zone, which is an interdimensional prison Superman sends his worst enemies to. It shows massive levels of entitlement; the friend zoned man suggests that he is being deprived of his "rights". This is high-level misogyny.
Now what exactly do you say to the men who understand women enough to never be catorgized as friends because they know how to trigger emotional responses to the point they are always sexualy desired initially.
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Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
I know, right? Just look at the language men use to describe the friend zone. They ask for advice on how to "escape" the friend zone. Even the term "friend zone" makes me think of the phantom zone, which is an interdimensional prison Superman sends his worst enemies to. It shows massive levels of entitlement; the friend zoned man suggests that he is being deprived of his "rights". This is high-level misogyny.
That might be what you think it means but doesn't mean it means that. Just means she only sees you as a friend and only every will. Means if you like like like her there's not chance best to move on.
Now for some comedy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qQXfDLmNto
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Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
I know, right? Just look at the language men use to describe the friend zone. They ask for advice on how to "escape" the friend zone. Even the term "friend zone" makes me think of the phantom zone, which is an interdimensional prison Superman sends his worst enemies to. It shows massive levels of entitlement; the friend zoned man suggests that he is being deprived of his "rights". This is high-level misogyny.
What's Mohammad's take on the friend zone?
Btw, I am so curious -- since you left islam, why then you still choose to put illustrated avatars of veiled women?
Why is this such a common thing?
Why do guys make dumb posts like this?
Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
A little tip - falling for this bs won't get you laid. It's actually been shown to make you less attractive.
Anyone pretending not to be sexually driven will only get a white knight participation trophy. Everyone is trying to spread their genes on an instinctual level. Women in general can simply afford to be picky about it, giving the false notion that they aren't also looking for sex first.
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Nobody (male or female) actively "friendzones" you. Its the other way around. The nonsexual
"just friend" status is the normal common default setting.
Its the rare people who achieve attraction status who are the ones being actively placed into a special "zone".
So if you use the term "friendzone" then you are displaying a crippling lack of common sense and are showing that you think the tail wags the dog.
And further -yes you ARE showing that you are entitled to sex by the mere fact that you use the nonsensical term "friendzone". By definition the term implies that members of the opposite sex are all eager to throw themselves at you, and that they all have to make the conscious decision to not thrown themselves at you. When obviously the opposite is the case.
I know, right? Just look at the language men use to describe the friend zone. They ask for advice on how to "escape" the friend zone. Even the term "friend zone" makes me think of the phantom zone, which is an interdimensional prison Superman sends his worst enemies to. It shows massive levels of entitlement; the friend zoned man suggests that he is being deprived of his "rights". This is high-level misogyny.
As a woman I disagree.
I don't think it shows entitlement at all. It's just a pop culture term for unrequited love.
What these guys are asking how to stop ending up in situations where they keep falling for someone who has no interest in them romantically.
There's nowt wrong with that.
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The more cynical part of me says use them like they want to use you. If you get a good job date bunch of women never settling down. The idealist in me wants to believe in love but it doesn't exist. Mind you most women will trick themselves into believing they love you but it's really your money and status. You might find a good one though. Lots of women also complain they guy works all the time and thus cheat on him too. That's how you make good money you work all the time.
I dont know I have some mean ideas if I ever win the lottery, take them on a romantic date then show off my car and leave hem to pay lol
My girlfriend intends on pursuing a doctorate. She hasn't expressed concerns over my level of schooling. Even though she has hardly any income since school takes up so much time she's really uncomfortable with me having to pay the full costs over her visiting (and basically won't allow it, intervenes to ensure it isn't possible). I don't say this to brag, but to point out how broad the spectrum is.
I think people's views regarding relationships and gender roles within them are broader than you're willing to accept. Think about all the people you've met online who have drastically different views of those things compared to your own (and all the ways they disagree with each other); as well as how many agree with yours either in whole or in part - that's the crazy spectrum of people's views on dating and what you need to bring to the table to play before they get to meet you - and most people are flexible if they're charmed.
But in reality, at the end of the day, you're the one who's paying (and willing to cover all) - how will be she covering the rest of her doctorate costs?
Now let's reverse this, if you were the one pursuing the doctorate, do you think you will find a working gf who will accept to cover all or even some of your costs till you finish?
Your case is typical, not a special case - it's the reverse which is more needs to be seen.
You can try this with your current gf after she finishes hers
I'm not paying, she doesn't live with me so I don't cover her expenses whether indirectly or directly.
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