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Guys are not Tinder©®™ trading cards.

If men shouldn't tell women that their way of expressing themselves is wrong, then women shouldn't do the same to men.

Well, if we both don't do at least part of it, we will never meet.
Communicating emotions by expressing strong political opinions is not an efficient way to have one's emotions acknowledged.

Guys are every bit as complicit in the broken social norms I mentioned as anyone. We have a lot of work to do, but we can & do love women without asking anything in return.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2019031 ... than-women

This article does state that a major risk factor that leads to male suicides is that men have been cultured to hold emotions in to appear strong rather than communicate their feelings. It also puts them at a higher risk for alcoholism and drug abuse.

This is something that needs to be addressed. Attitudes in society have to change so men’s emotional needs are better met.

Society right now isn't meeting anyone's emotional needs. I'm working to change that on the electronic end of things, but A) I'm a guy & B) I've been been painted into a corner full of machines & almost no people. We need to stop de-facto giving up on each other when we don't meet one another's expectations.

I don't love the women in my life because of what they can do for me, it's only about who they are. They're pretty awesome for accepting me in the slightest.

And what role do you think the expectations of women play in that trend?

I think it does. Also those norms survive even in methods of suicide.


TW suicide:
If someone shoots herself in the head she's more likely to be 'successful' than if someone just decides that he should eat a lot of poison. Cos the poison is slow might not work 100% and the person attempting it might get found and sent to a hospital, cause of illness discovered, sent to mental hospital. Stats show that guys use more lethal methods, on average. I'm not sure if this has just been true since the gas oven stopped working in the same way as it did in Sylvia Plath's day.

Testosterone.

I like your questions, straight to the point.

The trend didn't come from nowhere.

There is actually a new thread along the lines " If you are autistic you argue" or something to that effect. Feel free.Those of you who keep responding directly to posts are preventing those who want to express their feelings from freely speaking from the heart without being judged.
This is not an arena of combat and a little more sensitivity might help us all get along more. Not everything that is said requires a response or opinion in life.

Obviously men and women are missing the point about each other and some of you here need arguing more than oxygen. Just listen. Jeez. Not everything that men say is mysoginist, they are entitled to say how they feel too. Why take it personally?This thread permits positive experiences also.

Freedom of speech guys? Learn about each other? Validate another person's point of view even if you disagree?
Cberg I'm really sorry that you feel attacked.

It probably had its origins in hunting gathering societies when men hunted dangerous animals with rudimentary weapons and other groups who were after their resources. They probably had to put on this brave and courageous mask.

Then it sort of evolved into this masculine ideal over time.

It’s not my ideal, though. I like a guy who’s in touch with his feelings (most, if not all, women I’ve known do). Men seem to act more macho around other men than with me, typically, I’ve noticed. I assume it has to do with status.

It was always going to be somewhat contentious but I love this thread. I think a lot of us need to meditate & reconcile more than we need to date or hook up.

Skip to 11:19 for the relevant part, she's one of the very few persons in the world who experienced life as both genders first hand:

From an informed male standpoint, that's an evolutionary dead end. Many languages & cultures work rather differently, but in the west we have our cross-eyed ideal of men being either "real" or not.

"Men seem to act more macho around other men than with me, typically,"

How would you know if you're not around?



"I assume it has to do with status."

Yes. Status with women.