Price of a date in USA.
Nice one MG.
How you doing?
I am a little emotionally numb at the moment.
Oh dear. Had anything in particular set that off?
Hope you feel more yourself soon.
Someone I loved said I don't love her and I lied to her about the internet issues I was having (My emails had changed their format and don't work very well since as we have a weak internet signal). So I am back with my imaginary girlfriend who trusts me and believes me when I imagine the truth... (Why would I lie in my imagination? Why would I lie anyway?)
I feel like I don't like real women any more. Only imaginary ones! I don't like taking emotional risks... What came as such a shock to me was that it was all out of the blue. One minute I was in love with her and she seemed to be in love with me and then for no reason she just changed.
People can be like that. Maybe I don't read the signs?
In the past I just shut myself away. I feel tempted to do that now. If she wanted to just be friends I would not feel so bad, but since she accused me of lying she just stopped all communication... So though I tried to send two or three emails to explain. Nothing. Just like my first GF did when I became suicidal.
I am numb like when I attended all those funerals after so many died.
Nothing I can do but find ways to protect myself so if the numbness wears off I am not in an emotional mess. I have one thing left to do and all will be sorted.
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Hi MG - I wish you well, I truly do. Since you've decided to open up here, I'll do the same. I didn't respond to your one and only email about this, as I was still too hurt. I have communicated to you very clearly what the issue was, both in the past and during our last emails. I don't feel it was possible to have been clearer. You continue to hurt me, without realising, and even when I tell you what you do that makes me feel hurt, you don't seem to understand the situation. This break down in communication started because we'd been texting each other, getting along wonderfully, and things could not have been better. BUT, out of the blue, no warning,you stopped texting ... completely. I don't know what else I was supposed to think, except that you needed space, and were telling me to leave you be. It was like you'd decided to sabotage the relationship. So, I backed away. I was hurt.
There were instances where you'd tried to phone me, so I called you back, but you'd hand me over to your mother. No warmth from you whatsoever.
Then emails became once again, cold, and impersonal, and so I was left feeling confused. There is such a lack of consistency in your writing and how you behave when you're with me. In the 9 months since I've been chatting to you, the number one issue has been the lack of reciprocity. When I get some reciprocity, it's on your terms, and short-lived. You revert back to coldness. Forgive me, but I am a female who needs to feel wanted and cared about. I simply didn't feel that from you. I too am on the spectrum. There were brief moments of time, where I did feel that. But, no consistency. I've had friendships, with other people on the spectrum that remained consistently warm and caring, but perhaps you cannot help how you are in this regard. I bear no grudges, but don't expect me to be ready to talk to you, when I'm still getting over the most recent hurt.
It's like I'm talking to two different MGs There's such inconsistency, that it hurts. I feel as though I gave everything I could, remained as caring and as loving throughout, but as it felt so one-sided with the lessening of your affection, warmth and communication, it became impossible. It hurt too much. I can't leave this with accepting what you've written as it's so inaccurate and your words rub salt in the wound. Firstly, Where did I say the words "You don't love me"? Where did I say the words "You lied to me"? They don't exist. You distanced yourself from me both via text(completely and without any explanation at all), then email (I accepted and joked with you about the internet issues, but it became VERY clear that there could be no way that this was purely an internet speed issue. I honestly don't know how anyone could think it was, under the circumstances.
All the best to you. Allow me to move on, and find someone who reciprocates.
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@MG & Juliette that sounds very distressing for both of you. Would love to be able to offer some kind of quick fix concept: but there isn’t one.
Sounds like trust has disappeared at both ends. It’s harsh but you’re probably both better off doing what you can to learn from the experience than trying to make it continue through bloody-mindedness.
Take care of yourselves, both of you.
When I was a virgin, I felt like I could wait for marriage before I made love with my lady.
Yeah i dont know if I wait to wait that long.
But i dont know and I’ve been used sexually so that complicates it on top of being sexual abused as a kid.
Fantasy seems one thing but actually doing it is another thing.
But from what the other thread said if I don’t have sex in first week or so no woman would date me.
I think that’s highly dependent on the person in question.
My only successful relationship (Mrs K) it was three months before I was invited into her bedroom, and two years before we started living together: she had decided those timings as rules for herself to guard against the risk of repeating bad relationships in her past.
I have very limited experience but I think that if you ever do meet a woman with experience of relationships, with whom you have a mutual attraction, you may find that they share your need to take it slow and build trust in each other first.
No the others are probably right,
And mY lack of relationships and sexual experience also doom me.
Last woman told me she doesn’t want to be some guys first gf or have to tech him how to do sex.
Hmmm... well, on one level I can sort of understand her position (a sexual partner who knows exactly how to please one from the first second would be amazing): but, at the same time... it seems a tad unrealistic an expectation on her part.
“Doom” seems a bit OTT: romantic relationships aren’t the be-all and end-all of life for one thing (can frequently be difficult, frustrating and confusing tbh), and although that woman turned you away for that reason, there are women in this world who would see that as an opportunity rather than a burden.
Not guaranteed that you’ll ever have the luck to meet one who’s attracted to you, but it isn’t guaranteed that you won’t either.
Sounds like trust has disappeared at both ends. It’s harsh but you’re probably both better off doing what you can to learn from the experience than trying to make it continue through bloody-mindedness.
Take care of yourselves, both of you.
Thank you for your comment. I think if we both forgive each other and remain friends all will be well. Our hearts will heal and we can look back and smile.
I really don't fully understand things, but I know that fair enough, not everyone can. I sometimes struggle to say things in ways that others understand, and likewize, I may not understand others and end up on tender pins not really knowing how to react. (Maybe this is caused by my lack of experience in things like this). I am not sure if I can say it has something to do with autism as I don't know for sure if I am on the spectrum or not?
I hate hurting others and hate hurting myself too. But the mature thing is to remain friends? That way no one has lost out as we can choose to remember the good things...
I still care. I want no harm. I want to comfort and protect....
I think I will bury myself in trains!
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