How do you know if your standards are too high?

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I have to disagree, here.

Again, I have to disagree. My stance comes from an obsessive love of adornment, artifice, and theatrics, however, that I'm sure most people don't share. I firmly believe that most men should wear *at least* a bit of eyeliner (for some examples of men whom I consider to be "beautiful," rent "Velvet Goldmine" ); I think most folks' bare faces are pretty boring. I don't venture out into public without makeup, as I feel that I don't look my best completely bare-faced. Other people's opinions of my unadorned face are irrelevant; the only opinion about my appearance that truly matters to me is mine.

I don't dislike a little makeup, but too many little girls are banned from it, making it forbidden fruit. When they finally get to use it, they apply it with a trowel, and end up looking like clowns.

Have you looked at Michelle Phan's videos on YouTube? I tripped across them one day and ended up fascinated with the amount of work she puts into describing how to use makeup. It reminds me of videos about "case mods" in which one details a computer around some theme like that of a video game.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MichellePhan

I think the key is balance and moderation. Too much of anything isn't a good thing. Usually, I wear "dress casual"...a button up dress shirt, sometimes with a sweater over it, nice jeans, and nice shoes. If I have somewhere more important to go or it's a special occasion, I'll wear dress pants, a tie, sometimes a suit jacket.

I expect the same out of a woman. As long as she doesn't shop at Walmart for her clothes, I could really care less what she's wearing or how fancy it is unless we have somewhere special to go. I'll take a girl with a simple top and jeans over the done-up woman or dressed to the nines woman that isn't my type. Roz and Daphne, though their styles are a little outdated - and Patricia Heaton in Raymond - are good examples of women who can dress really nice without overdoing it. The whole Anne Hathaway, Heidi Klum look doesn't do it for me. It screams "Trying too hard."

Hey, don't knock the Hath!

I recommend seeing Havoc, if you haven't seen it already.

When I'm not in my work "uniform," I generally dress like a slob, out of both poverty and necessity. I simply can't afford nice clothing from expensive department stores. Also, and more importantly, most of my wardrobe consists of stuff that I can order from the Gap online store (jeans, in other words), because the Gap site offers clothing for tall women. Shocker!
My wardrobe's boring, but beggars can't be choosers, after all.

Wish I could afford to be that picky.....

Hey, I buy my clothes at Walmart!

I love my Dickies. They take a beating and the Scotchguard means they don't stain. (So no worries about Monica incidents! )

I buy mine at Target and J.C. Penney

ROFL. Major logic fail there, dude. You broadcast a rather huffy offer to send your pic anywhere. I called you on it. There is nothing in any of that ever to suggest that return pictures would be forthcoming. You're just pretending there was such an implication -- for what? Drama?



Uh, you broadcast on a public thread that your picture would demonstrate your assertions about yourself, and any who chose were welcome to verify that. If discussing your pic on the thread were not your goal, why did you start discussing your pic on the thread? You're the one who decided your pic was a topic for broadcast discussion, not me.



You either didn't look closely or didn't understand what you saw. There was an extreme amount of labor to produce the look they had.

well i am not that good at being concise. that sentence you wrote is actually very hard for me to understand. i have never been to paris and i was not talking about paris. i would not much even like to go to paris because i think it would be smelly and humid.


you are lucky to have that ease of attachment of soul to your experiences.
i would be awash with anxiety and trying to find a cab to get me back to where i was based.
i would be not happy to be "lost in paris". (sounds like an interesting idea for a song).




i am sure your words mean something very nice but i can not really understand what you are saying.
to me, "foriegn" is not "beautiful"."
in france they eat frogs and snails. i do not want to be lost in france.
i think you are nice even though i may have not said anything nice.

now...

so what i say i must have said 2.4 million years ago and it has taken this long to be heard.
but when i heard it i replied within the day and here the reply is in less than 2.4 milliom years so i am not in andromeda.

my soul is contained within an icy realm where nothing happens very quickly as you said.
my intelligence is not artificial.




no i am only an environmental analysis robot called B9 and i have no abilities comparable to the hal9000 module.

i am old transistors and vacuum tubes and resistors plugged into an early biologically designed circuit board. i have also a good store of capacitance that can stock 40000 volts and discharge it from either claw for a duration of 3 seconds. it takes me 10 seconds to recharge my capacitors. i could easily render the HAL circuit board inoperative with a burst.

(yes i am being fanciful as a response to the suggestion of the HAL idea. it is totally comic book imagination)

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Not to be overly critical, but with your preference in men, its the same concept: beggars cant be choosers.

Personally, i cant really stand a "barbie doll" woman . . . they all look (and often act) the same. Most of them probably have more plastic on them than my car (2001 Celica GT). In the end, it boils down to who will love/like/tolerate you, and after X amount of months/years would like to get into a relationship. One can have whatever standard they want, but thats no guarantee. In the end, you will have to settle for someone, "in the ballpark," or nowhere near what you had originally considered. Admittedly, there are two women that have my eye at the moment, one slightly taller and <insert a polite word for a slightly heavier, but still attractive woman> than the other. At least my options are open. You cant afford to be picky with a lot of things . . . and sadly, we have to do the one thing we dont like doing . . . taking a chance.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but I can make a burlap sack look good, if you know what I mean.

Perhaps I should replace "slob" with "casual." My clothes aren't unclean or ill-fitting; I guess I could pass for the typical emo/hipster kid when in public (jeans/tee(s)/hoodie/Chucks). I was a g0th/rivethead for nearly 20 years; even if I were of average height and flush with cash, I don't know what I'd wear, now. I'm utterly lost. My identity was so thoroughly tied into the g0th/industrial scene for so long that I dunno who or what I am, anymore. "Normal" clothes aren't appealing to me, nor are "normal" hairstyles and hair colo(u)rs - but those are the ideals I'm stuck conforming to, now that I'm living in an ultra-conservative area. It feels, to me, like it almost doesn't matter what clothes I wear, or what hairstyle I sport, when I can't be "me" anymore (whoever she is, now), anyway. If I still sported my formerly black-and-blue hair and Chicago-era attire, I'd be relegated to the local mall's Hot Topic, because no other entity around here would hire me. In Chi, no one at the marketing/advertising firms where I'd freelanced so much as batted an eyelash - actually, I received tons of compliments on my hair, back then. I'm completely in limbo.

Hey, aren't you forgetting something? I'd also have to love/like/tolerate the guy in question; in my past experience, it's always (or almost always) been one-sided. There's a thread elsewhere dealing with this dilemma, so I won't rant about it at length here.

Your options are open because you have women in your "real," day-to-day life who get along with you, like you for who you are, and vice-versa. I can't claim either. Do you lot really think I'm turning guys away right and left because of some haughty laundry list of demands that aren't being met? Hello, NO. As I've stated countless times in other rants, attractive men, save for a couple of co-workers who HAVE to talk to me, don't give me the time of day. End of. There aren't any guys here for me to be taking a chance WITH!

"ROFL. Major logic fail there, dude. You broadcast a rather huffy offer to send your pic anywhere. I called you on it. There is nothing in any of that ever to suggest that return pictures would be forthcoming. You're just pretending there was such an implication -- for what? Drama?"

I see only one person who is looking for drama and isn't succeeding. In case you haven't noticed, we're all relatively low key here, and your attempt to say "look everyone, he's a 5 because he looks like a jerk" didn't succeed.

"You're the one who decided your pic was a topic for broadcast discussion, not me."

I'll admit, I fell into your trap and decided you were mature enough to see my pic. At least Sin, who has a good reputation on this board, was.

"You either didn't look closely or didn't understand what you saw. There was an extreme amount of labor to produce the look they had

So I take it you're some natural beauty that can wear jogging pants, a t-shirt and not comb your hair and have all the guys looking at you? Or at least that's what you're trying to project where you said that the guys stare at you and tell you how hot you are.

You picked the wrong site to troll.