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02 Dec 2010, 2:03 pm

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It seems like a lot of people on here (men and women) like to argue about arguing, then it turns into 10 page arguments. The irony.


What nilescrane said.

WP Guys: Women are hypocrites that don't know how easy they have it.

WP Girls: Walk a mile in our shoes. It's not our fault you can't get laid. Stop complaining.

I could add more dialogue, but it would only be wording those statements over again. It's two notes a measure, and the whole song sounds like that. I've wrote a measure or two, so I'm guilty of the same thing.


So stop complaining, goddammit. Why is it so hard to understand?



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02 Dec 2010, 2:13 pm

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Lately, I have been focusing on bringing more positive and constructive energy into L&D. That isn't to say I don't struggle at relationships, though. I have improved over just the past year. I don't think about the "nice guy" stuff, or anything like that, I just try to be the best person I can be when communicating with someone of the opposite sex.

Most of my romantic anxiety of about the past 2 years was as a result of my experience with a specific person I was (and, admittedly, still am) very attached to. I lament the fact that, despite how much I tried to show her that I could be a good partner, her way-out-of-the-norm ideas about relationships failed to convince her of that.


Tim Tex from how much you evolved, I don't think you are part of the problem (and I don't think you ever really were). You may have been niave at first, but I think you are much more adult now than you were awhile back. You have always been receptive to advice, and never really sexist, just maybe a little niave. Adult relationships are complicated and filled with nuance, and honestly you have a good attitude right now. I don't think this thread was directed at you. There has been a heavy amount of sexism that has been going on that has taken away from folks who are looking for legitimate input and use the forums to grow as people.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:16 pm

There's just so much white noise on this forum and IMO, I don't think I've evolved here as far as my few points or my maturity level goes... yet.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:18 pm

You know, we're going to see a thread almost exactly like this again in a week or two.

And tomorrow there'll be another thread or three by some guys who wants to make ignorant generalizations about woman.

It's the circccle of liiiiife


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02 Dec 2010, 2:19 pm

Moog wrote:
You know, we're going to see a thread almost exactly like this again in a week or two.

And tomorrow there'll be another thread or three by some guys who wants to make ignorant generalizations about woman.

It's the circccle of liiiiife


I hope you were really singing the circle of life. :heart:



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02 Dec 2010, 2:41 pm

I've noticed two overriding bits of advice here. One is to stop being resentful towards women. The other is to get a new hobby, or go out and meet new people. I suspect many here are thinking of different people with the former piece of advice than with the latter.

Many of the men of this forum have something peculiar about them, but what that is exactly tends to differ: some ask too much of their hypothetical partner, some are narrow in their interests to the detriment of their social lives, some are overtly hostile towards women (or at least the women in their area), some are apparently depressed. Since we all supposedly have some condition in common, and many attribute that to the cause of their misfortune with women, I've tried to see if I could relate to the problems many men in L&D have but most of the time I can't. I might be peculiar in some other way that I don't really notice.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:42 pm

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my problem with toad (and this is the 5th time I've explained this to you people)
is people constantly give him advice, he disregards it and acts (and says) how his life is so bad and how no one understands
when there are many people here who have it so much worse and do so much better with so much less
he basically is spitting on people like that, and people he has no idea of how their past could have gone


Just because other people may have had it worse, does not meant those issues have no significance for him. Toad has every right to post about his issues here.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:50 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Lately, I have been focusing on bringing more positive and constructive energy into L&D. That isn't to say I don't struggle at relationships, though. I have improved over just the past year. I don't think about the "nice guy" stuff, or anything like that, I just try to be the best person I can be when communicating with someone of the opposite sex.

Most of my romantic anxiety of about the past 2 years was as a result of my experience with a specific person I was (and, admittedly, still am) very attached to. I lament the fact that, despite how much I tried to show her that I could be a good partner, her way-out-of-the-norm ideas about relationships failed to convince her of that.


you started taking peoples' advice then?


Are you going to attack Tim_Tex as well now? Yes, he's made progress but it's probably due to a number of factors rather than just taking advice from people here. I recall some that people used to attack him as well over "not taking peoples' advice like Toad is being attacked now. If someone doesn't make progress fast enough according to your criteria, it doesn't mean they are ignoring the advice from this forum.



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02 Dec 2010, 3:06 pm

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[quoteI am not naming names or saying it is every guy


Why not?

This thread is called "Men of the Forum" and tells us to get lost.

If your going to insult people, at least have the decency to name names.

I'll bet there's like 2 of them, if that.[/quote]


But wouldn't it be a personal attack if he did?


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02 Dec 2010, 3:08 pm

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Nearly every day I see a new thread full of sexist crap and pointless whining about how men can't get laid and how women are so unfair.
One thing so many fail to realize is, well you are the ass holes.
So many here view women as objects and feel they are entitled to sex for no reason other then the fact they exist (or some other even more stupid reason).
They don't want to do anything to try and improve themselves and make so many excuses.
The horrid sexism I see here shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. I was immature once, but I grew up, and there are so many here much older then me and act worse then I did at 17.

Frankly I don't care about lame excuses, or why you feel you deserve a girlfriend, this isn't a "nice guy" argument, nor an excuse to tell me your life story.
I won't listen.


Killroy, I am glad you are saying this. For those who attack you by saying this I am going to say outright, they need help. There is way to much sexism and entitlement on these boards. I am not naming names or saying it is every guy, but the misogyny is way too common. Thank you, it kind of proves to me once again there are at least some reasonable guys on this board, or at least guys who can be reasonable sometimes.

Reading conversation between leaguegirl and kilroy...its surprisingly adult.



Uh do you mean "adult" as in mature way you know being mature in talking than doing it in a immature way or as in something that belongs in the adult forum?


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02 Dec 2010, 3:17 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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[quoteI am not naming names or saying it is every guy


Why not?

This thread is called "Men of the Forum" and tells us to get lost.

If your going to insult people, at least have the decency to name names.

I'll bet there's like 2 of them, if that.



But wouldn't it be a personal attack if he did?[/quote]

He has already made personal attacks against particular people in this thread. So saying he's not going to name specific people because it could be construed as a personal attack seems hypocritical to me.



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02 Dec 2010, 3:18 pm

I already said why I am not changing the thread title
do you need me to repeat myself?!



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02 Dec 2010, 3:31 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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Kilroy wrote:
Nearly every day I see a new thread full of sexist crap and pointless whining about how men can't get laid and how women are so unfair.
One thing so many fail to realize is, well you are the ass holes.
So many here view women as objects and feel they are entitled to sex for no reason other then the fact they exist (or some other even more stupid reason).
They don't want to do anything to try and improve themselves and make so many excuses.
The horrid sexism I see here shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. I was immature once, but I grew up, and there are so many here much older then me and act worse then I did at 17.

Frankly I don't care about lame excuses, or why you feel you deserve a girlfriend, this isn't a "nice guy" argument, nor an excuse to tell me your life story.
I won't listen.


Killroy, I am glad you are saying this. For those who attack you by saying this I am going to say outright, they need help. There is way to much sexism and entitlement on these boards. I am not naming names or saying it is every guy, but the misogyny is way too common. Thank you, it kind of proves to me once again there are at least some reasonable guys on this board, or at least guys who can be reasonable sometimes.

Reading conversation between leaguegirl and kilroy...its surprisingly adult.



Uh do you mean "adult" as in mature way you know being mature in talking than doing it in a immature way or as in something that belongs in the adult forum?


I meant it was adult in the fact it was mature, not that it belonged in the adult forum.
Ugly thread, but to be honest, it is needed. The misogyny in this forum is sickening and I am kind of sick and tired of it.



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02 Dec 2010, 3:53 pm

Jono wrote:
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Grisha wrote:
[quoteI am not naming names or saying it is every guy


Why not?

This thread is called "Men of the Forum" and tells us to get lost.

If your going to insult people, at least have the decency to name names.

I'll bet there's like 2 of them, if that.



But wouldn't it be a personal attack if he did?


He has already made personal attacks against particular people in this thread. So saying he's not going to name specific people because it could be construed as a personal attack seems hypocritical to me.[/quote]


I have noticed this year everyone has their own views on what is considered a personal attack. Makes it even more confusing for me because I see it as "How to follow those rules if you don't know what be considered as a personal attack." I just have to take risks I guess when I post on forums.

Now I guess making a thread telling people what they are doing wrong is a personal attack? I already knew making a thread that is directed at someone saying their name is a personal attack because it's something to do in PM than having the whole forum read it. I saw that happen once here and I asked if it was okay and tallyman told me it wasn't and he locked it.


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02 Dec 2010, 3:58 pm

If anyone has a problem, it seems they're attacking somebody
I stand by this, I really do-people needed to be confronted by this because it was going unsaid publicly for a long time



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02 Dec 2010, 4:11 pm

Kilroy wrote:
If anyone has a problem, it seems they're attacking somebody
I stand by this, I really do-people needed to be confronted by this because it was going unsaid publicly for a long time


I tried to call it out at times, but mostly being ignored. :/