have you ever been a target of a PUA (pick-up artist)?

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They're slightly more likely to make sense than NT women, in my experience.

Well, I did get hit on by a self-proclaimed Loveshy, a Nice Guy(tm) which is kind of similar to a pick-up artist, but yeah, he hit on me right in front of my boyfriend. If this wasn't over Skype (it was a Skype chat on some other geeky forums that my boyfriend moderates on) then I swear he would have beaten that guy up.

Can I just point something out?

The way I see it most guys have PUA the wrong way.


There are plenty of schools when it comes to PUA(cocky&funny...) and each of them has something that makes it "unique".

There is one thing however that all "masters" agree on, PUA is about having fun and making sure the other person has fun too.


Most guys I see this days they take it to a point where the only funny thing is to watch them try to approach a girl and try to make her feel bad about herself and so on.




Tonight I wanted to show myself I could do this sort of thing.
I could go on a lengthy explanation on what exactly lead to this but to keep it short I saw this thread and due to some circumstances in life I figured I would give it a try.



I go out every Tuesday with over 20 people. As you may understand I dont interact with every one of them and I limit myself to a couple I m closest to, as do most of the people there.

I go there for a single reason, to have fun.

Tonight an acquaintance was at my table. Now I knew three things about her, she is slightly older, from out of town , and last week she was called a lesbian which really upset her(she jokingly said she was a lesbian someone sarcastically replied that they knew, she read too much into this person´s words... she complained about the incident just after it happened to the guy sitting next to me).


We started talking and she brought up sex very early on so I made a point to laugh at her.
She complained about it and I said that I just found it funny how she thought it was appropiate talk for strangers.

For 10 minutes I put on this charade where I was a tyrant and I was the only one that had a say on the group. I hated everyone, I argued with her in a joking tone making her feel bad for her responses, when she compared me to hitler I said he was way nicer than me and so on.

Ten minutes in I brought up the only thing I could possibly tease her with.
15 minutes in it was a mixture between mad tyrant and teasing her.


20 Minutes in she had a bet planned for me.
We had gone from being acquaintances from being close enough to trust each other on a bet.

Now 30 minutes in we realized the bet wasnt going to happen(we depended on someone else and that person left the group) so she and I went to order food(the bet implied paying for each others food we paid separately).
She started flirting with the waiter so I pointed her out she wasnt going to fool me and so on so she had to explain the whole charade to a laughing waiter.

When we were back at the table I went back to the mad tyrant charade(making sure several people around us were "scared" of me) and I turned into answering questions on why I thought being crazy was a good thing inserting passive agressive replies("I m sure you do " in a sarcastic tone) from time to time


The time passed.


By the end of the night she was unable to stop laughing at the whole thing on the table and trying to say I was stubborn but the words were failing her so I helped her out




I did 3 hours of pickup, at no moment did she feel uncomfortable or ask me to stop doing what I was doing.
Why?
Because I made sure to make fun of myself and to involve others in our jokes.

It wasnt a truly passive aggressive conversation at no point


Thats what most PUA wannabes fail at.
They dont make fun of themselves or they dont try to find a way to make the conversation enjoyable for the other person.

A lot of men think these guys are dicks too. I doubt all would identify as PUA, but you can call them Lothario or Cads.

I'm a man, but I have experience of this, concerning a friend who was duped (call her A), whilst on holiday together. She is actually the mother of close friend of mine (call him C), who was with us. Another guy was there who is also good friend to us all (call him D), and is also staff to help C with social, and educational needs.

Whilst at a Restaurant/Pub a waiter started laying on the charm. We liked this place so went repeatedly. He was very haphazard, but at the same time, he had a lot of tall tales to tell. Tales of surviving motorcycle crashes against the odds, half-drowning, being close to death, etc. He also gave the impression the he was the owner of the restaurant, and his family had owned the olive groves for 4 generations back. It later transpired he had only been in this place 4 months and knew less about the place than us. The nice chef and his wife where the real owners.

He had the uncanny ability to lie without really caring about how glaringly obvious it was.

As I have a bit of a reputation as a know-it-all "with a telepathic link to Wikipedia", they jokingly compared me to him, because of his attempts at sounding knowledgeable. However unlike him, when I say something, I can can usually back it up. He was a just a bullshiter who didn't know much, but could hold attention.

Long-to-short: He ended coming back to ours for drinks a couple of times. He continued to lay on the charm offensive, but he was clearly trying to get into her pants. Given her situation, which he was aware of, he was exploiting C to get to her. He managed to convenience her to go on a motorcycle ride with him, where he tried it on, but she didn't take up the offer.

It all seemed pretty obvious at the time, and I joked about him being a 'pony-tailed Lothario' much to her annoyance. She was aware of some of the lies by then. I realized that I couldn't object too hard, because that can have the opposite effect, so I stuck to negative psychology.

Due to personal circumstance it resulted in her breaking down an crying about it. We managed to convince her that he wasn't genuine in the first place, and he was bullshitting her all along in the hope of quick action. Actually I was still subtle about it, D surprised me be being pretty blunt (I'm usually the blunt one). The combination of the two approaches did the trick.

C was also pretty upset naturally.

Not personally, being a straight guy who doesn't make a habit of frequenting gay bars, but I've seen them in action, and they are unfailingly hilarious. You can see them work around the room, with their douchey snapback hats and fake gold chains and half-unbuttoned shirts and absolute sobriety, using the exact same line involving something about her eye color on every girl in the room, most often getting shut the f**k down in about 2.5 seconds. Sometimes the dumber ones will use the same line on the same girl twice. That's usually about the point at which I completely lose it and start pointing and laughing.

Yes.

He came across me at a night club. I found him rather obnoxious.

Later in the night, after I had rejected his amorous advances, we crossed paths again. This time, he had quite a few drinks in him plus a full one in his hand.

"Let's get you out of those wet clothes," he said, and then tossed his drink on my dress and leaned in as if to kiss me.

I kicked him in the testicles and left.

Sec semper culus.

Yes, people manipulate, and people fall victim to manipulation. Nothing new here.

Think religion as well.

I liked spongy's story. And conclusions

The title makes PUA sounds as bad as rape or harassment.