Do racial preferences make you a racist?

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No, it is not a racist statement. Racism means seeing one race as inherently inferior to another. And nowhere have I said that blacks are inferior. I never discriminated against black people because I would somehow feel superior.
I am not a racist. It seems like nowadays every white guy is somehow a racist in the eyes of people like you. But if you use this word for everyone you disagree with or for so called “microaggressions”, what will you call the real racists then?
You trivialise real racism by calling me a racist for not being attracted to black people.

I wasn’t saying they all look exactly the same to the point where you can’t tell them apart, that would be incorrect. So yes, I know that two black men won’t have the exact same face, thanks for pointing that one out captain obvious.
But yes,some features are common in one race and uncommon in another. And even if a black man would have thinner lips than most sub-Saharan Africans have, it wouldn’t mean I would be attracted to him then. It is just one aspect out of many and I used it as an example for the lack of aesthetic attraction.
There are visible, physical differences between black and white people more than just pigmentation and I’ve never been attracted to blacks. It just never happened. So why would I go on a date with someone I don’t consider attractive at all?

An influence of ignorant white culture....?
What is it you have against white people and cultures? It’s the second time you throw them under the bus in a collective now. And what is white culture anyway? I am German; my culture differs from the French one even though French and German culture may have certain similarities.
And how is my culture ignorant? Since you seem to be an expert on my culture enlighten me about how bad and evil it is. I am not a traditionalist and don’t bother too much but I think my culture is pretty decent, worthy of preservation and not ignorant.[Sorry, I don't hate my ethnicity.] In fact I grew up in a liberal culture and country. And it definitely didn’t teach me not to be attracted to black people. If I was attracted to them, it couldn’t even teach me otherwise even if it tried.
Pheromones and biochemistry in general are still real things!

Here we go! The song of white guilt is playing. No one but yourself can make you look bad.
I never felt responsible for anyone’s actions or words other than my own. I loathe collectivism.
I take responsibility for myself and not for random strangers because they share or have shared my skin colour or nationality.
If you feel embarrassed about your race every time another man who happens to have the same skin colour voices an opinion you disagree with, that is your own fault.

I just find it funny you're argue using the same logic people use to against gay people.

yes ok.

You really want to be educated on how evil and racist and xenophobic German culture can be? Read a history book that covers the last century.

I just feel embarrassed when white racists try to justify their racism with further ignorance. It's a second-hand embarrassment (as in, I do not feel embarrassed for myself, but embarrassed that you DON'T seem to feel embarrassed for something that you should feel embarrassed for.) It's a kind of pity, basically. I pity you for not being able to see how judgemental you are being of people for their skin colour which has nothing to do with who they are (unlike other physical characteristic that can actually tell you something about the person, like how you can tell how well they take care of themselves and how healthy they are by their weight and fitness and how shiny and clear their skin is, how thick their hair grows, how clean they are, etc.) You are judging aesthetics based on random s**t that your culture has told you is unattractive and you have unquestioningly absorbed because you are apparently very suggestible and don't employ a lot of critical thinking about your own thoughts and behaviour.

Sex and race are pretty different things, there are more differences between males and females than there are between people of different races.

There is strong evidence that our sexual orientation is hardwired. However, there seems to be more evidence all the time that what we find aesthetically appealing about members of the sex that we are attracted to can be heavily influenced by culture and by personal experience and pleasure-response. It's a distinction that a lot of people commenting in this thread are having difficulty making, perhaps understandably, but it is a critical distinction to recognise. You can't "control" whether you are gay or straight--but your experiences and your culture can influence what you find appealing about whatever people you are attracted to, whether it's men or women.

I can't control that I am attracted to men, I am just naturally drawn to male-presenting persons because I am a straight woman--but the sort of men that I find aesthetically appealing is influenced by the culture that I am steeped in every day. I get all kinds of messages from other people, from the media, all the time about what is generally considered beautiful and what I should consider beautiful; I try to limit the media I am exposed to and critically examine it to prevent it from having too much influence over me subconsciously, but I still realise that I am not immune to its influence any more than anyone else is. If you live in a culture that constantly promotes a particular look or aesthetic as the ideal, then you are going to absorb those messages and that will influence what you find appealing when you look at the people around you.

So, if you live in a society that constantly pushes messages on you that white skin is the most beautiful skin that is going to have an impact on what you find aesthetically pleasing--and the less you question those messages the more suggestible you are to them and the less you will notice their influence on your tastes. Marketing/advertising are designed to function on these principles of suggestibility of the general populace, finding and exploiting everyone's weaknesses and insecurities to propel them to consume more in an attempt to hide or compensate for those insecurities. It's very effective strategy. It's morally repugnant, sure, but it makes f***-tonnes of cash.

Just as one can't change which gender they find attractive, people can't change whole they find attractive. Just like you can't will yourself to find a fat person attractive if you don't, or a older person, or a disabled person, etc. if we could just make ourselves find someone attractive who we didn't then we could make ourselves find other genders attractive. The argument you are all making is you can just will yourself to find someone attractive even though you don't, such mind willing would be limitless. If we could do that then we could will all kind of changes. That's not how human brain works. You find some people attractive and others not, you can't who you find attractive change just by wanting it. I wish you could. Or we as society could just make women find fat ugly guys attractive and solve the growing obesity problem. No one even knows why we find people attractive, why do I think a girls pretty and othe guys say she's ugly? By your logic the others can just be willed to magically see her as pretty. False. You can't make others or you find people attractive, you either do or you don't. This whole thread is just race bating. It's stuff like this that's pushing us back to the 60s and dividing this nation. All white people are just racist for being born white. Wait that's racism. I like who I like. I'm not racist and I won't sit here and be called races and deflamed, and made to feel bad for something I have no control over. Are you going g get on all the black people who won't date whites, or bash mixed couples? It's or like anyone's saying I only date white people. That'd be racist. If you find blacks attractive but refuse to date them because their black. But if you don't find or haven't met a person form a race you find attractive that's not racism. As others said its crying wolf and be littering actual racism.

Ok the. If I've be brainwashed to only find white people attractive, why d I find Latinos , Asians and Philippians more attractive ?

What was it women here said, relationships aren't job, so there's no protection, people don't have to date you, well guess what, people don't have to date people from races who they don't find attractive so as to be politically correct. It wouldn't be fair for said women or men to be dated by someone who finds them ugly. What kind of relationship would that be?

What?

Elaborate where and how.

So you have never ever seen a black or indian or non-filipina asian woman attractive for you? like never ever?

Indian from India,,or Native American. I've seen many I find attractive.
Not many blacks. Their facial structure and hair are likely to blame. I can't stand dreadlocks. Saw this emo girl and who profile was good, but she had dread locks, didn't find her attractive. Also don't find curly hair attractive, which I've been told lots of black women have.

I have concerns about how I'd fit in with their family and culture. Part of me would want to just to defy the whole anti mix couple people. Not like there any black women wanting to date me anyways.

I find all these women to be gorgeous.

lol....jeez.


my tinder experiment now even makes more sense: viewtopic.php?t=275336

In this experiment I faked locations:
In non-white dominated countries I got from fair to a lot of matches (out of fast 100 swipe for each country).
In black-dominated countries in particular such as Kenya and Ethiopia, I got tons of matches, most with black women of course.
In mixed areas I got matched only with poc minorities, like blacks, natives, latinas, and persians - but never with white Europeans despite them are majority.
In Russia got matched only with Asian descendants.
While in some white-dominated countries such as Germany and Ukraine, I got zero match......ZERO

I got few matches with Whites living in Japan and China and Thailand, most were Europeans working in NGOs there...even more than what I got than when tried white-dominated countries.

The total of matches of all White-dominated country was even way less than one non-white dominated country.
In fact, they were even less than matches with Whites in Asian and African countries.
All this is by coincidence? I think not.

In other word, I am seen fairly attractive to the opposite sex of non-white countries, despite I am not of the same "race" as them, such as Asians, Blacks, and Latina.
While suddenly when I get into a (European or European descendant) White community, I become a totally repulsive Quasimodo-like to the opposite sex.

As if there's something encoded in the Whites' genes that makes me seen repulsive to them.

So tell me, according to my experiment, why out of all those countries, it's only the White women of the white-dominated countries, who just "can't help it" for not being attracted to a non-white?

Why are you laughing at me ?

You'd have to run a experiment and see how a white person is treated in all those non white nations. From what I gather Asian nations tend to want to keep their lines non mixed. I hear Japan is and has been a preferred Japanese only nation. I heard it's super tough to immigrate there.

I really don't think it's racism, more culturing and genes.

I think a fish can't realize what 'wet' is because it's living in water all the time.

People keep arguing "you can't change who you are attracted to"--like your aesthetic preferences are something that you're born with wired into your brain and you can't alter that in any way--yet I have provided evidence in the form of the research mentioned in that episode of The Nature of Things that those people are conveniently avoiding addressing while continuing to say they are convinced aesthetic preferences are hardwired without providing any evidence to support their argument other than that's what they "feel" is the truth.

If you're not willing to examine the evidence that a person supplies to support their argument, it is bad form to continue arguing against their point based on uninformed opinions and "feelings" rather than factual information. You can't just say "I feel like this is true" when the other person is saying "but I'm saying it's not true and here is the evidence that supports my informed opinion of how it's not true" while refusing to examine that evidence that they're putting forth. That's a very disingenuous way to debate with someone.

There are certain posts I would like to discuss, but the person who is writing them is putting an irreversible veto against me.
Ironically, at times I felt there are underline racist reasons behind this hostile veto against me in particular out of all wp members.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ack-people

There was recently a beauty contest that was judged by an Artificial Intelligence algorithm, the artificial intelligence judged each contestant using various algorithms to determine beauty. The results have lead to certain people branding the objective nature of the Artificial Intelligence as racist, this has lead to concern that a neural network will be no more bias-free than a human.

Natural bias is a part of nature and that is not something that can be avoided, people are more objective than they claim to be. If you ask people that are attracted to Nordic women for the reasoning behind the attraction they feel, you are rarely going to elicit a deep response on their personal characteristics.