any women here who have never dated, never had a boyfriend?

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Hehe, thanks. I also can be pretty intense and put my foot in it.

I know.

Most of my male friends prefer it that way, which is why I get confused by guys here who bemoan the fact that more women don't approach men. In my experience, the majority of NT males, which comprise the majority of men, prefer to be the initiators.

Sure, just like as a man it's NOT a privilege having the ability to make more money than women.




And it was a complete and total fallacy lol. Don't agree with an opinion then go ahead and create some nutty off the wall response to try and floor the other person to make them look like an idiot. See above.

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But in order to get to that stage you need to initiate the touch first as a woman, so the man knows he's not going to balls-up if he touches you. Men rightly have a big fear of upsetting a woman if he initiates too soon.

I get around this fear.....by asking a woman if she wouldn't mind it if I kissed her hand.

No, it isn't, as women have the ability to make as much money as men.

Faulty comparison.

I outlined the reasons why "more options" doesn't necessarily translate into "privilege." Your not liking it doesn't make it a fallacy.

there's probably nothing more attractive to me than a woman who's genuinely attracted to me. that alone doesn't guarantee that i'll find her attractive overall, but it definitely increases the odds. it kills at least two birds with one stone: it's a sign that i won't need to try to become someone else for her, and it's a sign of self-confidence, which means she's not going to drag me down even when she needs my support (which then i'll be more than glad to offer). it has to be genuine though. or else not only there's no point, but it's also bound to backfire, because, yes, i will notice it

also, like hopper described, i tend to downplay my qualities. it works. it kills right away expectations that you don't want to be tied to, and at the same time it leaves room for the other person to use their imagination (which means you get to be in their thoughts in a positive way while you're not interacting). to me it's also important in a woman i'd be attracted to. i want to discover her qualities. or else i'll find it suspicious

but men choose - 'select', in your terms - all the time. That's what the pissing and moaning is about - that it's the men who have to choose and then approach the women.

Or did I miss the meeting where I would have been told I have to put my details forward to the Male Database, and wait for a woman to get in touch, and then I have no choice but to go off with her and do her bidding?

Honestly, sometimes I wonder if people even actually think about what they're saying.



Ooh - that's a rookie mistake.

Emotion –your opponent is necessarily and invariably ‘excitable” “agitated’ “animated”; you, by contrast, are immobile, impassive, devoid of emotion.

I know right? Thanks affirmative action. lmfao

Yeah, I have to say you and Kraftie have my respect for dealing with this dating stuff.

I think my head would explode if I had to try and navigate those waters.

And now you're acting like a child.

How the hell did you manage to sell yourself so well considering all that? I must know your secret.

Anagram, what qualities do you downplay? Can you give me any examples of how you do it?

My biggest problem is finding someone like-minded who has an opinion of their own. A lot of men immediately try to copy my values and it's a big turn-off. I don't know how to find someone on a dating site who is an intellect and yet open-minded and has opinions of his own.

I did try to ask a guy on here about how he did it, but I think I might have offended him, or maybe he didn't know how to help me.

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These type of arguments always remind me of that dude who tried to "prove" women have it much easier on dating sites, so he created a false profile as a female.

Yeah, he got tons of responses, but the bulk of them were requests for hook-ups, d_ck pics, and men just generally being pigs.

It's indicative of why "more options" isn't such a peachy thing.

I will try to explain at my best, because english is not my native language. I practice this language by being on this website. I pIn the past, I didn't have the chance to have clues about relationships. My family was affraid about helping peoples who want to help me. That's my intelligence which helps me to surpass challenges. That's not the case now. Definitively, because I progress a lot the last months. In the past, I would be considered as FA, but not now.

I can't have a boyfriend with my valours, because in the past, I didn't have help. My wish is to be a writer, so I need to concentrate on what I want for improving myself. I progress for exemple in japanese and writing, and inform myself en environnement issue. My wish is to write on animals. I really like werewolfs and was complimented for my talent when I was at secondary. But I need now to improve myself on somethings to have someone who will helps in my projects. I dislike video games geek as lovers, because I want somethings else for me. Also, I can say than I need to be more attractive, but because of my intelligence, I can understand a lot by myself and work on them.

I learn a lot now, and want to concentrate on what I really want, as reading litterary and philosophy. Also, I was really sick on the last months because of my past and my reject. I was rejected as a child at school and my mother didin't help me with my autism. She couldn't inform about her own child's problems, because she can't read. My past is the past. But I have a lot of things to do before to have a boyfriend, having a job for exemple. I want to concentrate myself on my job's searching, because I am a little picky with my job because of my health.

I don't know if you can understand. I understand perfectly than if you want a boyfriend, you need to learn some basic things. I am totally fine with that and don't complain about how badly my situation is. My situation is perfectly fine now. I just want a intelligent man who can understand my interrests about environnemental issues and my wish to be a writer. I don't want a man who want just to play with video games or somethings related.

I am not privilegied, because the man who want to be with me were repulsive... before I decided to change my mind. I can be beautiful when I wish. That's not the problem. But I desserved more than a man who play video games (don't tak personnaly), because I like others more cultural things.

Also, I am in a little town and don't have choices for lovers. I like cultural things.

I don't want to be as somethings. I want to be cultivated. That needs a lot of effort before to be, because I am not from a cultivated family, who can help me. I need to progress myself. A lot of challenging.

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Whoa out comes the dictionary.

Men that are in the higher range of looks or money or personality have better odds when it comes to being able to select a mate. But it isn't illegal for women to ask a man out. Nor is it a social blunder. Maybe in the past it wasn't considered ladylike for a woman to seek out a man. But it certainly isn't going to work for a man to simply plant himself at a bar and wait for a women to approach and ask him out. Just as it won't work for a guy to create a dating profile, sit and wait for women to initiate.

Sure there are guys that have had women initiate and ask them out. But like as I said before: the exception does not make the rule.