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And men are the other for .women, and the poor are the other for the rich.

A little word called retaliation when it comes to the rich.

My dislike for much of the wealthy came from their massive judgemental views of the poor.

I've been born into poorer family so of course when my family are at that end I developed less trustworthiness and liking to many rich, but I don't judge them all.

Yknow what, it's upper middle class I dislike more than the rich

They seem far more hedonistic and lacking in love for humanity than the massively wealthy.

Oh wait, this is me demonizing them, but primarily in retaliation.

It s quote common in Australia for the unemployed to be judged very negatively, even if they're on disability.

I won't judge upper middle class but once they judge me as lazy because I'm on disability for what they deem a fakr disability, then sure I'll retaliate.

I have no concern for being the 'better man'.

The derogatory term for unemployment here is 'dole bludgers'.

They are stereotyped as always being lazy, low class, etc.

Plenty of millionaires and billionaires donate to various charities and humanitarian efforts.

True the upper middle class are judgemental but they're not the ones controlling the economy.

It doesn't help that people are bombarded with propaganda that the poor are stealing all the nation's wealth. If any of the people who believed that actually had to deal with Centrelink, it'd become pretty obvious just how understaffed and underfunded that organisation is. And apparently all the nation's wealth is going to dole bludgers.

All the money paid by Centralink goes back into the economy. The recipients don't hoard it all in their mattresses, they spend every cent of it.

They'll have all the money, they won't need us to buy stuff since that need serves only to make them money, once they have that which they pretty darn close.(many have enough to last them multiple lives) they'll on,y need to make the things they want. The poor and middle class will server no purpose and be squatting on what should be their land and eating and using up what should be their resources. Once the rich don't need is we'll just be in their way.

There's. I e new nazis and kkk members, doesn't mean all neo nazies or kkk members are nice. There's a lot more selfish rich people then nice rich people. The rich have so much money they could save the world many times over. If they really gave a s**t they'd be poor from having given all their money away helping people. Not sitting on billions or trillions of dollars in a bank account wasting away to be passed on to their kids whole just add to it or spend it all on stupid stuff like billion dollar yachts with mini yachts in them.

They could be buying food for starving people, providing homes for homeless. So no I have no compassion for the rich. I'd help so many people with that kind of money. 1 billion dollars could shelter and feed millions of people living on the streets. Rich people each have hundreds of billions.

Speaking of nazis. For all the horro they did, they also did a lot of good, and bunch in the party were nice. But they were all held accountable for the bad actions of the group. Doing some good does t make up for ones selfishness and wastefulness. Will they be on their death bed looking over the billions in their accounts and think I could done more, I should have done more. They can help millions. I can help non.they squandering their wealth. It sickens me to see people freeze and starve while those rich live in giant houses and estates and flaunt their millions or billions.

What about Bill Gates, who spends 95% of his money fighting malaria in third world countries?

I don't have a problem with rich, I just don't like snooty middle/upper class people who think that being taxed a tiny portion of their income to help with infrastructure and welfare is some kind of an outrage.

You Call 27% of My Income a Tiny Portion!!?

How much money do you make a year, after all the taxes and whatnot have gone through?

After taxes have been deducted, $45,817. After Super has also been deducted I get $41,376. Out of that, 9.09 repeating percent goes on GST, leaving only $37,614 (+ $4,441 super) out of $55,000.

You're talking about the Hollyweed image of the wealthy, though, which paints the rich as evil monsters. Money is a tool that allows us the freedom to do what is right. The more you have, the more freedom, the more good you can do. People don't give blatantly evil people money. People only give money to people they trust.

Let me ask you this, if you don't like wealthy people: Where do you think their money comes from? It's really simple. If you don't like them, then stop giving them money! Not everyone likes Bill Gates. I get it. So they don't buy Microsoft products. Some people hate Apple, so they don't buy their computers, tablets, or phones. And when enough people lose faith in a business, it goes under. It's not rocket science. The rich stay rich because people know they are responsible with money and trust them. So they buy their products and support their charitable foundations. They keep so much money around because they know that's not really THEIR money.

One little pro tip on amassing large amounts of money--you can do something as simple as creating an endowment by putting money in a savings account and skimming the interest. Spread a billion across as many different banks as you can and the interest alone could feed a family for a year.

Anybody can become rich if they want to bad enough. It's just the majority of people can't really handle the responsibility once they get there. You can't become rich alone. You have to hire employees. You have to manage assets and inventory. You have to advertise. You have to network. And somewhere in there you have to actually be good at what you do. You have to build a team who is 100% committed to your vision. If you can't show people you are capable and trustworthy, they won't trust you with money. If they won't trust you with money, you won't have it.

I'm not saying ALL rich people are good and honorable people, btw. There is such a thing as crony capitalism. The bad guys, IMO, are Wall Street guys who really only survive through their political connections. These guys really are concerned with money for its own sake and don't really care about people. They're prone to speculation, bad deals, poor risk management, and pyramid schemes. Oddly enough, they don't make the news much unless they do something especially outrageous, like with Bernie Madoff or Bernard Ebbers. And Ebbers IMO was more a victim of widespread business practices that had become normalized. Responsible leaders don't need to take out loans to do business. Ebbers should have sold assets, laid off some employees, or filed bankruptcy. Instead, he cooked the books hoping the telecom downturn would reverse. Now he's in prison, and I believe he took the fall for the real crooks out there. But had he made better decisions on how he got his money in the first place, he'd have weathered the storm just fine. Crony capitalism screwed a lot of people that day. Ebbers just happened to be the guy sitting at the top at the time and had to take all the blame.

Who was responsible for the "Great Recession"? Wall Street. How about all those companies that were "too big to fail"? Government bailouts? Auto companies lining up to get their piece? Where was the government when WorldCom was going under? And who was in charge of the government and enabled these corporations to establish corrupt business practices that landed them in so much trouble? Follow the money. You find tight connections between Wall Street and D.C. special interests that do keep the fat cats rich until someone screws up. When good rich people fail, they stop the bleeding, fire some people, learn from mistakes, and come back stronger. When irresponsible crony capitalists fail, they cover their tracks, cause irreparable damage to investor portfolios, ruin lives, destroy their own careers in additions to others', and occasionally end up in prison.

Take a lesson from that. If you want to be rich, do what rich people do. Ask how much and pay in cash. If you can't pay for it, you can't afford it. If you want to be poor, do what poor people do. Ask how much down, how much monthly payment. Get into the debt cycle and spend the rest of your life paying bills. Rich people are generous. Even if you're unemployed, you have immense wealth of time. Use it to help others, volunteer, get exercise, read self-help, motivational, or biographical/non-fic. Rinse/repeat and I promise someone will either hire you or they'll give you money/support you while you continue to do good. That's what rich people do.

Don't waste time hating rich people. Join them and something positive for humanity. Ironically enough, you don't even need money to get started. But the more you can do for people, the more money they will throw at you.

Entitlement programs are pretty steep on taxes. Rich people have a lot more to worry about than income tax alone. Just the taxes owed for doing regular business alone are killer. I'm a freelancer working for two non-profits along with my weekend gigs. I've had years when I actually got more money back than what I paid in taxes. It's the mom-and-pop LLC's that are getting crushed right now.

If small business is your thing, I'd suggest taking an extra step and advise anyone who is really aggressive and has the personality for it to get into some of the legit MLM's out there, like Avon, Amway, etc. Any kind of in-demand luxury item like cosmetics. My wife does Younique and LOVES it, partly because of the sense of community and the encouragement they get through the upline. I'm always wary of businesses using that model, but I'm not a very aggressive marketer and wouldn't do well. I personally know a meteorologist who walked away from her broadcast career because she was killing it in a MLM making more money than she did on TV. You don't have to worry about taxes, employees, insurance, etc. because your downline, basically recruiting competitors, is independent and responsible for that. And you don't miss out on lost commissions from competitors because you always get a cut of the profit. Work hard enough, build your team, and you could make a million in a year without even leaving your house.

You are only talking about the type of rich people who made their wealth by hard work and intelligence, but not all rich people are inspiring good people like Bill Gates or Jack Ma.

You have those who made wealth at the expense of others or via crime, like the corrupt politicians and drug lords.

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Please tell me you're not suggesting people are only poor because they want to be poor and amass large debts. And entitlement? A society where smug rich bastards help to make sure people who aren't so well off don't fall by the wayside is not entitlement. That's the sort of attitude people like the Liberal Party want people to have. Make everyone despise the poor and think the rich are all great and generous.