Will I have to become what I hate?

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28 Dec 2017, 9:34 pm

AngelRho wrote:
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I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.


Didn't Hurtloam leave? I don't know who Slw is, and Hale_Bopp's personality is mostly unknown to me. Most of the women I've encountered here I'm neutral with at best.

I think Hale_Bopp was here long before I was. Then she disappeared for a while and obviously she’s back. I’ve crushed on her a long time and she keeps ignoring me. Honestly, though, that’s prolly the smartest thing she could do.



Uh... good for you? You and I don't tend to see eye-to-eye on matters, so it doesn't surprise me one bit we have different opinions on the same people.



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28 Dec 2017, 10:04 pm

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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


I was going to say something face of boo like but I’d best not be a silly troll.


i wish you would say it, boo's posts are funny :lol:



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28 Dec 2017, 10:12 pm

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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


I was going to say something face of boo like but I’d best not be a silly troll.


i wish you would say it, boo's posts are funny :lol:

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29 Dec 2017, 1:08 pm

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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?



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29 Dec 2017, 3:06 pm

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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


This. Start again somewhere else where people don't have expectations of you and you don't have to hang out with people you despise.



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29 Dec 2017, 6:13 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
sly279 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
314pe wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
nazaya wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I often feel at this point in my life (29, going on 30) that I will have to become what I hate if I want to have a relationship. The men in the culture I live in who have relationships drink until they pass out, smoke until they smell like cigarettes, drive dangerously fast, say reading books as well as non-FPS video games are for "fa***ts", blast loud pop country or rap music, and physically harass women. These are also the same guys who called me "fa***t" as well as punched me up in school. Even the women in the culture I live in have told me they hate "nice guys" and that the bullies were just "toughening you (me) up". I don't want to be fake but I hate how being authentic hasn't payed off for me. :(

I think you're right. You'll have to become like ordinary men IF you're looking for an ordinary woman. And I don't know about you, but I hate ordinary...

Looking for a needle in a haystack there, basically.

Easy if you have a good magnet?

Quirky ND women are great, but don't forget that they're women too. And, like other heterosexual women, they like masculine traits in their partners.


If one is bad with the average woman, then they clearly don't have much of a magnet. So searching for a super-rare woman who's still single and doesn't have some kind of horrifying character flaw seems like a rather futile effort.

I can't speak as to how great "quirky ND" women are, because I have never met one in the real world, and frankly the women on this website aren't exactly the kind I'd be putting much effort into chasing after, a fact I'm sure they're all heartbroken by.

What, you mean like hale_bopp and hurtloam? Slw? They’re freakin awesome.

They are also really pretty and work good paying jobs. They wouldn’t date guys like most aspies guys. I too haven’t meet any nd women locally. I’ve meet playful women which I find super attractive it they’re are all 25 and younger and thus Wouldn’t date me likely. But I don’t make enough either.


I’m playful when I’m happy and not stressed, and around my people, which is almost never.

Wish I could be more of the girl I know I am inside. Too many complicated thought patterns, I’d love to be stupid and not think about anything except what I enjoy, that would be great.


Be stressed less then:p playful women are great. But then I’m playful so biased.

I wouldn’t want woman to be stupid, though unlike a lot of guys here I also wouldn’t mind if she was and I would look down on stupid women. They can be quite cute. They just not as smart. I wouldn’t call them stupid.

Working to climb ladder will cause stress. I don’t envy it. I get enough stress just trying to keep my job without worrying about getting promotions.

What girl are you inside?



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29 Dec 2017, 6:16 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
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Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.



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29 Dec 2017, 10:53 pm

sly279 wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.


What are you even talking about? That is the opposite of what we are saying. Now is not the time for pity trains.



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30 Dec 2017, 6:47 am

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First of all, a question: *why* do you want a relationship? What is your personal reason for this?


I'm guessing the only reason he wants a relationship is simply for the sake of having one. Which, as far as I'm concerned, is the worst kind of reason for pursuing it. I can't speak from experience here, but I do believe it can end up hurting you more than it benefits you.


No, I don't want a relationship for the sake of one. If I had that mentality, I would've settled years ago with some nasty redneck woman or gross ghetto hood rat or hyper religious fanatic. I want a loving partner to share my life with instead of an impromptu sex bot which is what most men in the culture around me seem to want. They like "screwing" but don't like anything else about women.


Remember, never get with a woman who you wouldn't want as your mother.


Good LORD!! ! My bad! what i meant to say was "Never get with a woman who you would NOT want as your kid's mother. I was half-asleep last time. I AM SOOO SORRY!! ! :lol:



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30 Dec 2017, 6:59 am

AngelRho wrote:
Hopelessly3 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


I was going to say something face of boo like but I’d best not be a silly troll.


i wish you would say it, boo's posts are funny :lol:

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Ok
Ok,

I was going to suggest that he open a clit flicking contraption business to get the funds he needs. :P



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30 Dec 2017, 10:44 am

sly279 wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.


If Markins is sure he's never able to do so and says so then that's that; I'll abandon this advice when it comes to him and try to come up with something else. However, if he thinks there's even a tiny possibility that he could do it then I think he should try.

You say you'll never be able to do it and I belive you since I don't know you but you obviously know yourself. However, I'll only believe the same about Markins if he comes and says it.



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30 Dec 2017, 4:14 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.


If Markins is sure he's never able to do so and says so then that's that; I'll abandon this advice when it comes to him and try to come up with something else. However, if he thinks there's even a tiny possibility that he could do it then I think he should try.

You say you'll never be able to do it and I belive you since I don't know you but you obviously know yourself. However, I'll only believe the same about Markins if he comes and says it.


I don't think it's impossible, there's just a lot of headaches involved. Money, my mother who is a major control freak, and my anxiety as well as lack of self-esteem.

I remember now that my therapist telling me that the whole constant wishing and hoping for a girlfriend is no different than how I used to constantly pray to God to show me what my "plan" was; I would also just sit around and wait for the "plan" to happen but it never did.



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30 Dec 2017, 6:04 pm

Machine Man wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.


What are you even talking about? That is the opposite of what we are saying. Now is not the time for pity trains.


People are telling him to give up and put fines a gf on hold until he can get a good job move and get his life together but lots of people will never be able to do that so since they can’t telling them to give up on. Getting a gf until they can do so means giving up forever.

It’s the same advice I get. It basically means shut up and leave us alone. Since most people giving the advice know peoplenlike me will never get their life together so it’s an impossible task. People like me re way better off constantly trying to find a gf our life won’t get better we don’t get better jobs and women won’t fall in our laps without effort so calling off the search is just a death sentence to any possibility of having a relationship. If I’m not online looking for women and messaging them I’ll never find any as most women don’t message guys they make an account and wait for guys to initiate same as in person they don’t approach guys they wait to be approached. Waiting for my life to get together is like waiting to win a billion dollars it won’t happen.



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30 Dec 2017, 6:14 pm

Marknis wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Machine Man wrote:
Wait, you're an adult, right? Why don't you just leave your crappy town and family?


I don't have the money or resources to do so.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?


And if he’s not ever able to do so? Such advice is basically telling people they doomed to never be loved so just give up already. I get it a lot. I get it out sad lives fly in the face of people’s imagined perfect world where everyone’s happy and successful.

I’ll never be able to move. I can only save up $2,000. I dont know what his situation is but getting a good paying job is hard enough when ones not disabled and at a disadvantage it’s super hard near impossible when one is.


If Markins is sure he's never able to do so and says so then that's that; I'll abandon this advice when it comes to him and try to come up with something else. However, if he thinks there's even a tiny possibility that he could do it then I think he should try.

You say you'll never be able to do it and I belive you since I don't know you but you obviously know yourself. However, I'll only believe the same about Markins if he comes and says it.


I don't think it's impossible, there's just a lot of headaches involved. Money, my mother who is a major control freak, and my anxiety as well as lack of self-esteem.

I remember now that my therapist telling me that the whole constant wishing and hoping for a girlfriend is no different than how I used to constantly pray to God to show me what my "plan" was; I would also just sit around and wait for the "plan" to happen but it never did.

Your on social security right? If I remember right and your mom controls it for you

If so getting a job and getting off is more difficult as they punish you for trying. The more you make the less money you have.
All because Republicans didn’t like people on it having money they want us to live in mud huts and eat nothing but rice. We can’t even save over $2,000 so not even enough for a good car non less moving or renting a place etc.



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30 Dec 2017, 6:28 pm

You are out of your gourd, Sly. Virtually everything you said was wrong. I cannot begin to describe how wrong you are because every individual aspect of what you said is just as wrong as your entire worldview. This is fractal wrongness.



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30 Dec 2017, 6:35 pm

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You are out of your gourd, Sly. Virtually everything you said was wrong. I cannot begin to describe how wrong you are because every individual aspect of what you said is just as wrong as your entire worldview. This is fractal wrongness.


Then how about putting the girlfriend issue aside for now and focusing on getting money and recources to move and then start the search for a partner again in the new location?

How exactly am I misinterpreting that?

If he can’t get the money and resources to move then his search for a gf will be permanently on hold.

The original reply is to fireblsoom so I don’t even get why your replying to me over what someone else lose said.