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06 Mar 2022, 3:45 pm

at least i know now why i've never really been more than working class.



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06 Mar 2022, 4:23 pm

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at least i know now why i've never really been more than working class.


Why’s that?

Note: I have always been and am still very much working class. I don’t have income generating assets that allow me not to work - if I stop working my cash reserves will eventually go to zero and I’ll be destitute. The only difference between now and years ago is that I’m no longer surviving paycheque to paycheque and have both housing and food security and the stability and lack of those stresses that come along with accumulating a small amount of financial wealth.


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06 Mar 2022, 4:30 pm

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I’m not bragging, merely stating the facts of my reality and that it’s entirely possible to change yourself and improve everything if you want it bad enough and decide to do it. But only you can decide to do it and then get to work, be patient and persistent, disciplined and focused. Change yourself and you change your entire life and have the ability to resolve all of the issues you currently complain about.


I disagree.
You and Fnord seem to be on the wavelength that *anyone* can do "it" if they set their mind to it.

Of course, you can achieve more if you try, but to suggest there is an even playing field is nonsense to me. 8O

The Truth is hash, but what can I do?
I am The Oracle of Truth after all. 8)



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06 Mar 2022, 4:38 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
at least i know now why i've never really been more than working class.


Why’s that?

Note: I have always been and am still very much working class. I don’t have income generating assets that allow me not to work - if I stop working my cash reserves will eventually go to zero and I’ll be destitute. The only difference between now and years ago is that I’m no longer surviving paycheque to paycheque and have both housing and food security and the stability and lack of those stresses that come along with accumulating a small amount of financial wealth.

as OP said [i can't repeat his self-appellation], one of his college papers was about how and why ASD folks represented the bottom % of money talent.



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06 Mar 2022, 8:03 pm

auntblabby wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
at least i know now why i've never really been more than working class.


Why’s that?

Note: I have always been and am still very much working class. I don’t have income generating assets that allow me not to work - if I stop working my cash reserves will eventually go to zero and I’ll be destitute. The only difference between now and years ago is that I’m no longer surviving paycheque to paycheque and have both housing and food security and the stability and lack of those stresses that come along with accumulating a small amount of financial wealth.

as OP said [i can't repeat his self-appellation], one of his college papers was about how and why ASD folks represented the bottom % of money talent.


But Also the top. Even Elon Musk has stated he’s on the spectrum. So are almost every engineer in existence, many software developers, many medical doctors & countless other high earners in society. Write a paper about them and read it over and over instead of confirmation bias nonsense about lowly paid people on the spectrum - much healthier to believe things are possible & achievable vs convince yourself that they are not.

And no, not everyone has the same whatever “it,” is. I’ll never achieve what a couple of my NT friends have in their careers and financial lives, but that doesn’t mean that I cannot or should not continue to strive for improvement on my own personal bests.


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06 Mar 2022, 9:37 pm

Leon Musk and other successful individuals represent a very small percentage of the autistic population. The majority of us are much less fortunate. At least 50% of adults in the autism spectrum with no intellectual deficits are chronically unemployed. Of the one who are employed, the vast majority are only employed part-time. Most working autistics are employed in low-paying high-turnover jobs that are far beneath their level of qualification and suffer from job dissatisfaction and constant job changing.



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06 Mar 2022, 10:16 pm

i suffered through an uncivil service job that just about killed me from adrenal exhaustion, for far too long.



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06 Mar 2022, 10:27 pm

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Leon Musk and other successful individuals represent a very small percentage of the autistic population. The majority of us are much less fortunate. At least 50% of adults in the autism spectrum with no intellectual deficits are chronically unemployed. Of the one who are employed, the vast majority are only employed part-time. Most working autistics are employed in low-paying high-turnover jobs that are far beneath their level of qualification and suffer from job dissatisfaction and constant job changing.

*I* would think that such statistics and common reality for autistics + the correlated social/love life issues would be motivation enough for more of us to decide to do what it takes to treat and control our symptoms in order to live healthier happier more prosperous lives.

It was more than enough for me and I’m reaping the benefits of it now & forever.


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06 Mar 2022, 11:13 pm

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Leon Musk and other successful individuals represent a very small percentage of the autistic population. The majority of us are much less fortunate. At least 50% of adults in the autism spectrum with no intellectual deficits are chronically unemployed. Of the one who are employed, the vast majority are only employed part-time. Most working autistics are employed in low-paying high-turnover jobs that are far beneath their level of qualification and suffer from job dissatisfaction and constant job changing.

*I* would think that such statistics and common reality for autistics + the correlated social/love life issues would be motivation enough for more of us to decide to do what it takes to treat and control our symptoms in order to live healthier happier more prosperous lives.

It was more than enough for me and I’m reaping the benefits of it now & forever.


Many of us having been trying to do exactly that for our entire lives and still reap nothing but failure after failure. And we're exhausted.

Great that thinks worked out for you. But just because you're among the lucky few doesn't mean we will all see similar outcomes.



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06 Mar 2022, 11:56 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
at least i know now why i've never really been more than working class.


Why’s that?

Note: I have always been and am still very much working class. I don’t have income generating assets that allow me not to work - if I stop working my cash reserves will eventually go to zero and I’ll be destitute. The only difference between now and years ago is that I’m no longer surviving paycheque to paycheque and have both housing and food security and the stability and lack of those stresses that come along with accumulating a small amount of financial wealth.

as OP said [i can't repeat his self-appellation], one of his college papers was about how and why ASD folks represented the bottom % of money talent.


But Also the top. Even Elon Musk has stated he’s on the spectrum. So are almost every engineer in existence, many software developers, many medical doctors & countless other high earners in society. Write a paper about them and read it over and over instead of confirmation bias nonsense about lowly paid people on the spectrum - much healthier to believe things are possible & achievable vs convince yourself that they are not.

And no, not everyone has the same whatever “it,” is. I’ll never achieve what a couple of my NT friends have in their careers and financial lives, but that doesn’t mean that I cannot or should not continue to strive for improvement on my own personal bests.


It sounds to me like you have modified your thinking for the better in terms of more realistic goals.
I always try to think in terms of "Personal Bests", also.



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07 Mar 2022, 12:04 am

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Many of us having been trying to do exactly that for our entire lives and still reap nothing but failure after failure. And we're exhausted.

Great that things worked out for you. But just because you're among the lucky few doesn't mean we will all see similar outcomes.


Agreed.
But you try your best.
If you stop, nothing will be achieved.

BTW, based on what Goldfish has disclosed, he is quite fit and handsome.
This is hardly a case of "apples and apples".
This is hardly an even playing field.

Regardless, losing weight and getting fitter will benefit you whatever else happens.

I used to be heavily overweight also and would like to lose even more now that covid is around.
Simply achieving this goal gives a tremendous feeling of, err, achievement. ;)



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07 Mar 2022, 1:40 am

what i didn't learn until too late, is that avoiding injury/proper form is most important, to train but not strain.



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07 Mar 2022, 1:47 am

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what i didn't learn until too late, is that avoiding injury/proper form is most important, to train but not strain.


Oh, don't be a woose.
A couple of broken bones is character building. :mrgreen:

"No pain, no gain." <joke> :wink:



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07 Mar 2022, 1:59 am

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auntblabby wrote:
what i didn't learn until too late, is that avoiding injury/proper form is most important, to train but not strain.


Oh, don't be a woose.
A couple of broken bones is character building. :mrgreen:

"No pain, no gain." <joke> :wink:

i at an advanced age had my share of broken bones [lost a third of my blood] and was in the hospital for a week. almost killed me. it weakened me to this day. i was never really strong to begin with.



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07 Mar 2022, 3:46 am

auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
what i didn't learn until too late, is that avoiding injury/proper form is most important, to train but not strain.


Oh, don't be a woose.
A couple of broken bones is character building. :mrgreen:

"No pain, no gain." <joke> :wink:

i at an advanced age had my share of broken bones [lost a third of my blood] and was in the hospital for a week. almost killed me. it weakened me to this day. i was never really strong to begin with.


Why are you taking things out of context? :scratch:



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07 Mar 2022, 1:41 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
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Leon Musk and other successful individuals represent a very small percentage of the autistic population. The majority of us are much less fortunate. At least 50% of adults in the autism spectrum with no intellectual deficits are chronically unemployed. Of the one who are employed, the vast majority are only employed part-time. Most working autistics are employed in low-paying high-turnover jobs that are far beneath their level of qualification and suffer from job dissatisfaction and constant job changing.

*I* would think that such statistics and common reality for autistics + the correlated social/love life issues would be motivation enough for more of us to decide to do what it takes to treat and control our symptoms in order to live healthier happier more prosperous lives.

It was more than enough for me and I’m reaping the benefits of it now & forever.


Many of us having been trying to do exactly that for our entire lives and still reap nothing but failure after failure. And we're exhausted.

Great that thinks worked out for you. But just because you're among the lucky few doesn't mean we will all see similar outcomes.


It has nothing to do with luck and everything to do with persistence in problem solving, science & medicine.

I’ve been sharing on these forums for ~10 years now how I’ve managed to successfully treat my symptoms and live the life I live now.

Literally anyone else here is free to try some or all of the things that have worked miracles for me. Not attempting them is also a choice - but then so
Is accepting the way things are vs working to change them.

Your life, your choice. But it’s not by random luck that my life has improved.


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