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25 Feb 2021, 10:37 am

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Let me get this straight, his wife wants him to back down because he could never win against a woman while at the same time be more assertive. Something just doesn't click between those two things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind

Sort of like being told to "show your feelings" and "stop being emotional", practically in one breath.

Also called "crazy-making speech".

SHE: "... answer me!"

ME: "Well, I ..."

SHE: "Shut up when I'm talking to you!"

Yeah ... been there ...

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25 Feb 2021, 10:39 am

^ Exactly this.
"You must do it out of genuine free decision or you will be punished."

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25 Feb 2021, 10:42 am

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25 Feb 2021, 11:40 am

Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems." :mrgreen: :p

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25 Feb 2021, 11:50 am

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Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems." :mrgreen:

Oh? Do queerfolk not have these problems, or are their problems just different?

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25 Feb 2021, 11:59 am

Other humans are strange. I'm just gonna go play with my things now.

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25 Feb 2021, 8:13 pm

Fnord wrote:

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Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems." :mrgreen:

Oh? Do queerfolk not have these problems, or are their problems just different?

:shrug:

Both.

Not nearly as many marriages or even long term relationships in the gay community.. a whole lot more hookups & short term relationships. Exceedingly rare that a gay relationship involves a child that isn't a puppy or a house plant, either.

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25 Feb 2021, 9:19 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

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Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems."

Oh? Do queerfolk not have these problems, or are their problems just different?

Both. Not nearly as many marriages or even long term relationships in the gay community.. a whole lot more hookups & short term relationships. Exceedingly rare that a gay relationship involves a child that isn't a puppy or a house plant, either.

Is it less of a "Happy ever after" scenario and more of a "Happy 'til the morning after" one? If so, then I know of some het-people who play that way, too.

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25 Feb 2021, 10:09 pm

My wife’s gay son has a son. He and his boyfriend are co-parenting.

It’s a civil partnership, rather than a marriage.

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26 Feb 2021, 3:15 am

Fnord wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Fnord wrote:

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Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems."

Oh? Do queerfolk not have these problems, or are their problems just different?

Both. Not nearly as many marriages or even long term relationships in the gay community.. a whole lot more hookups & short term relationships. Exceedingly rare that a gay relationship involves a child that isn't a puppy or a house plant, either.

Is it less of a "Happy ever after" scenario and more of a "Happy 'til the morning after" one? If so, then I know of some het-people who play that way, too.

Yes. But you know of some, whereas for gays it's almost all - the rule, not the exception. It's a different culture.

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26 Feb 2021, 3:15 am

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My wife’s gay son has a son. He and his boyfriend are co-parenting.

It’s a civil partnership, rather than a marriage.

Adopted? Test tube baby with two dads?

First I've ever seen you mention your wife's gay son. Maybe just never been relevant. Just seems a bit odd I've never caught that before.

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26 Feb 2021, 3:20 am

goldfish21 wrote:

Fnord wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Fnord wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Wow.. this thread is just chalk full of what I like to call, "heterosexual problems."

Oh? Do queerfolk not have these problems, or are their problems just different?

Both. Not nearly as many marriages or even long term relationships in the gay community.. a whole lot more hookups & short term relationships. Exceedingly rare that a gay relationship involves a child that isn't a puppy or a house plant, either.

Is it less of a "Happy ever after" scenario and more of a "Happy 'til the morning after" one? If so, then I know of some het-people who play that way, too.

Yes. But you know of some, whereas for gays it's almost all - the rule, not the exception. It's a different culture.

Hmm, the gays I know IRL live in stable relationships or seek them...
But Polish culture of sex is specific and, apparently, even the gay communities here are affected by it - which makes the propaganda of "culturally alien" LGBTs pretty void, to my judgement.

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26 Feb 2021, 7:28 am

My wife’s son had a son through a surrogate.

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26 Feb 2021, 7:34 am

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Let me get this straight, his wife wants him to back down because he could never win against a woman while at the same time be more assertive. Something just doesn't click between those two things.

I know, right? They have a strange relationship.

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26 Feb 2021, 7:37 am

Rexi wrote:

Some people like mom will not back down in spite of proof, it's just, like she said after she noticed her beliefs are unfounded, 'im free to believe whatever I want'. Keep hoping to change their minds.

You can't reason with unreasonable people.
I suggest people simply agree to disagree and move on.

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26 Feb 2021, 7:39 am

magz wrote:

^ Exactly this.
"You must do it out of genuine free decision or you will be punished."

That's why she expects me to read her mind. If she tells me what to do it's mere obedience. She wants me to do it freely.

But I'm plotting a fiendish revenge on her :twisted:

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