To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

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Well good for you. The world could do with more women like you lol.

Juliekitty, I have very good reasons to resent the idea of "courting." I won't ever try it again.

Thanks Samtoo.

Remnant, that's your choice, just as it's mine not to settle for less.

What a bizzare way to start a thread... With such anger directed at men. (But perhaps it is just my imagination playint with me again.)

Damn, I suppose I need to re-think my long-held position that all girls/women are living, breathing creatures with hearts and feelings, and they deserve to be treated with consideration and respect (until such time as they may themselves prove otherwise, as happens with humans, regardless of gender). So much for my gender-based stereotypes.



Haha, humans...

Good fortune,

- Icarus Can't Cure the Strife

Just goes to show not all assumptions are wrong.

I assume everyone wants pie... I am never wrong.

Some women are robots though... watch out for those... may not have the hearts and the feelings...

I hope so. Because 'courting' in the sense of
lavishing attention and affection is a LOT more
important than what you can buy. It was funny,
but my wife used to always do things like take
me to dinner, and felt that 'twas so much less
than the little gestures that I made all the time.
What she missed was that it was less than the
ones that she made, as well.

Little things are the most important.

Only 'cause you haven't met my cousin.

Really, making broad assumptions won't do much, as each case is slightly unique in it's own way. Personally, I think care is what's important (not flowers and dinner out), but I know some women love that type of thing. To each his/her own.

I don't ever feel angry at women. If I'm rejected repeatedly then it must be my own faults that are causing it, and I should review my own behaviour.

Ah, yes... very clever.

But, you failed to read the thread title: To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

You are not one of those to whom this thread is directed.

My aim was to persuade those amongst the residents of WP who suffer from the affliction of misogyny to think more like you. So, by all means, keep that attitude up; spread the word if you can.

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And who said I was human?

I'm not angry at women. I'm pissed off at the people who put pressure on me for not ever having a girlfriend, that fact seems to prevent me from making any friends because they think I'm either creepy or in the closet. At least there are some women out there who post naked pictures of themselves on the internet for me to enjoy even if they wouldn't think of looking at me, why should I be mad at women? It's the (insert obscene noun in plural form here) who pressure me that I'm mad at.

I can get along with most women as friends as long as we don't have sex. I don't let the question of sex come up anymore.

You have to remember that aspie guys have a REALLY f*****g HARD TIME ok? Like really, most of the women here have no idea what it's like to be an aspie male. AT ALL. For some, aspie guys don't know that their own mind and body is distorting reality due to their low self-esteem, oversensitive nervou system and being treated like s**t most of their lives. Cut these guys some slack, they have huge enormous obstacles in socialization that most women will never understand.

For some guys, being an aspie is like being locked in an alternate universe where all you see is your own ego, and it takes a long time of study, dedication and effort into understanding -- how the world works -- how people work -- how you work -- and how bone-headed your immature views of women were 'back then'. I know I've gone through this long maturing process and it was f*****g hard.

So before you give aspies 's**t' for hating on women, realize many of these guys are like kids trapped inside their own universe of their minds that are flawed to begin with. It's almost like being a full blown autistic not being able to communicate or understand the outside world sometimes. So please consider that!

Many of them don't understand what they they are doing wrong and what is repelling people from them. It took me a long time to realize that me being overweight most of my life was one of the #1 issues repelling people from me, along with being really f*****g serious and negative person who was unfun to be around. It's a f*****g battle, and many guys don't even know they are fighting one, most of the time it takes years of introspection to figure out how distorted your own previous narrow minded and ill informed views of others are, and it's not done on purpose, it's just really damn hard when you can't model the social reality around you and 'get into other peoples heads' as easy. We have to learn this stuff intellectually.

I know how hard it is, Mordy. It took me a long time to learn, too.

I know. And I am trying to help you.

Read all of my posts - the first, alone, is somewhat misleading.

Edit: Look, this has been going on for days... can you people just read what I have been saying and try to understand? And not just my over-zealous first post. The others, too.

I would go on arguing with you, but I'm getting bored.

I have problems too, you know. I can't be expected to be word-for-word perfect. That applies especially if you don't even bother to read what I have written.

I had a point to make, something which I thought would help a lot of you to get on better in life.

I will not attempt to pacify you all yet again as to the purity of my intentions.

No, I don't hate you guys...You're adorable. I just can't be bothered with this anymore. I have better things to do.

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The real tragedy is that by the time they realize it (if they ever do get out of their own distorted universe, and realize their body and mind can be decieving and distorting of the information they recieve), they're old and much of the best years of what most normal people have in their lives have passed them by. Believe me, it's humbling, saddening, humiliating and tragic all at the same time when you finally have come to those huge ground-breaking realizations. It changes you forever when you can start to see the world more like it is, it's like coming out of a deep dark cave and seeing things you never seen before. A lot of prejudice comes from them not being able to really grasp the world, it's like being deaf or blind, a whole segment of human experience is cut off from percieving it and that can lead to serious (unintended) distortion of their thoughts and thinking.

Many are like kids that need love but it's hard as hell for them to get it, for some its like living in a desert. Most people take human affection and contact for grantit, try going YEARS without any human contact what-so-ever, and what you look like on the inside, would be something akin to a starving child, who looks like mere skeleton instead of a human being.

A pertinent quote by an author of a piece on AS:

"Understandably, AS individuals encounter enormous difficulties during the transition into adolescence, and later into adult life, since they have not completed the requisite developmental tasks or moved beyond early stages in language, cognitive and social skills. They frequently remain emotionally dependent upon parents or family members, and suffer from separation anxiety and insecurity when trying to live on their own. Friendships with peers, romantic relationships, marriage and parenting, and entry into the work world are usually beyond their capacity. They remain, in many debilitating ways, stuck in time, trapped in the AS puzzle. They are, in essence, childlike beings attempting to live in an adult world, but without the support and understanding that children are afforded."

If not, we need to talk.

That's how I feel about males.