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sarahstilettos
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17 Jan 2008, 3:44 pm

I don't think you can really afford to view money spent on dates as an investment, like, you're paying this money so that something will happen. If you go to an expensive restaurant, you may have all kinds of things that you want to get out of that, (and I'm not saying it's as cynical as wanting the girl to sleep with you, it could just be wanting her to like you and go on more dates with you), but don't forget that all you're actually paying for is good food and drink. Hence, thats really all you can expect to get out of it.



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17 Jan 2008, 6:47 pm

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what is all this stuff about 'throwing 40$ "down the toilet". Didn't YOU eat? or did you just watch HER eat while you counted the minutes to see if you were going to 'get lucky?'

sheesh! save your money and buy an hour with a prostitute, then you won't have to complain!
(and ask yourself," hummm, I wonder if she picked up on my attitude and THAT's why I haven't heard back from her?"

I know I would have given you the air if I felt that from you, AS, Muscular Dystrophy, Asthma, or any other 'disability' you might have revealed or not.

but I suppose it is easier to blame it on something you can not change than something you can. . but won't.


I don't know where you got, that, my goal was "to get lucky." You shouldn't make generalizations like that about men. sheesh! I'm not into renting hookers. Do I want a disease? No. If I wanted a gutter whore, I would look on craigslist. I have spoke to her since the date. Sheesh! I'm not compatible with the girl, which I realized after the date. So, in my opinion, it was 40 dollars wasted. Well, I did get a tastey meal.

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I just went on a 1st date tonight with a girl I met on a dating site. We met up at a bar and chatted for an hour or so. I was aiming for a cheap 1st date, but somehow, I picked a bar that had $10 drinks. Eck! They were good-sized drinks, though. I offered her a second one before knowing how much they were, and, luckily, she declined. So, I ended up spending about $24.

Except for a few small moments of silence when it seemed like neither of us had anything say, it seemed to go very well. She is very very attractive and she seems like a great catch. No way was I gonna tell her that, though. I think I spoke pretty well and had enough questions and comments to keep the conversation flowing most of the time. I only mumbled a few words, and I don't think I said anything too weird. We ended the date with a hug and a "good night" and I told her I'd call her. She seemed genuinely interested in going on another date, but if I never hear from her again, it wouldn't be a first.

I'm gonna call her tomorrow and try to set up another date for Saturday. I haven't decided what we are going to do yet, but it should be interesting to see how it turns out.

Was she drinking those mixed drinks? Because those things tend to be expensive. At least you didn't take her to a dive bar, some people are turne off by them. Probably because they're dumps, but they do have cheap drinks :lol: like Labatts Blue. Around $25 is a more reasonable price for me, but 40 dollars is too much for firstd date. I honestly thought it would only be around 25 bucks. Me and a friend have ate at the resturant that I went to for the date, that, I mention above, and normally it cost around 20-25 bucks. That date was one of the more expensive first dates I have been on. Normally, I go for being as cheap as possible.

Asking questions is good, as long as you don't run out of questions. Otherwise good job, sounds like you enjoyed your date.


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17 Jan 2008, 7:26 pm

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It's just a basic law of the land, the more money a man spends on his dates, the less respect the woman has for him, the less likely they are to appreciate him for who he is instead of how much money she can get out of him, the less likely it is to turn into something more than friendship, and the more likely he is to be wasting his time and money.


I wish you guys would stop repeating that to each other. That sure isn't how it works for me.

I don't respect a guy spending money to try to get me to like him - in other words, offering a sweet deal won't make it more likely for me to go out with a guy if I don't want to in the first place. But once it's established that there's an attraction - in other words, once I've accepted a second date - I like being taken out for nice dinners and so forth. It hasn't made me lose respect or killed attraction yet.



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17 Jan 2008, 7:28 pm

She drank a mojito and I drank a vodka martini with a twist.



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17 Jan 2008, 7:49 pm

Well I sent another message to the girl I've been in communication with this afternoon & still no response....does anyone think that the lack of a response may indicate an unwillingness on her part to continue the conversation?



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17 Jan 2008, 7:53 pm

Either that, or she just hasn't got around to answering you yet. Sometimes it takes me a couple of days.



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17 Jan 2008, 10:19 pm

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She drank a mojito and I drank a vodka martini with a twist.


I tried calling her and the phone rang like 4 or 5 times with no answer and then my cell phone seemed to cut out... :?



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17 Jan 2008, 11:23 pm

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She drank a mojito and I drank a vodka martini with a twist.


I tried calling her and the phone rang like 4 or 5 times with no answer and then my cell phone seemed to cut out... :?


I called again about 40 minutes later and this time it went to her voice mailbox. I left a message asking if she'd like to get lunch together on Saturday and to give me a call. She called me about 5 seconds later (so, I don't think she had listened to my message yet). We chit-chatted for just a little bit and I asked about lunch, and she said Saturday would be great and we agreed on a restaurant. :D Now I need to come up with something to do after lunch. I've got a few ideas, but... Nevermind, I just came up with a great idea! I'll tell you guys after the date.



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17 Jan 2008, 11:58 pm

LVBen wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
MikeInVa wrote:
Dokken wrote:
LVBen wrote:
This past saturday I had a date with a girl I met from Plenty of Fish and well, I basically just threw 40 bucks down the toilet by taking the girl to Don Pablo's. I'm quite bummed out, even though I didn't get along with the girl on the date. I thought she was a bit mean and disrespectful.

I have talked to her since and made the mistake of telling her I had asperger's. Now she assumes I am "disabled" and accused me of being dishonest for not mentioning that before hand.


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what is all this stuff about 'throwing 40$ "down the toilet". Didn't YOU eat? or did you just watch HER eat while you counted the minutes to see if you were going to 'get lucky?'

sheesh! save your money and buy an hour with a prostitute, then you won't have to complain!
(and ask yourself," hummm, I wonder if she picked up on my attitude and THAT's why I haven't heard back from her?"

I know I would have given you the air if I felt that from you, AS, Muscular Dystrophy, Asthma, or any other 'disability' you might have revealed or not.

but I suppose it is easier to blame it on something you can not change than something you can. . but won't.



You sound just like the kind of girl that would be a waste of money. I'd have Dutch first dates if I could get away with it.


see, you didn't spend a dime on me and allready I have no respect for you at ALL!

I guess your self fulfilling prophecy just came true!



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18 Jan 2008, 1:39 am

sinsboldly wrote:
LVBen wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
MikeInVa wrote:
Dokken wrote:
LVBen wrote:
This past saturday I had a date with a girl I met from Plenty of Fish and well, I basically just threw 40 bucks down the toilet by taking the girl to Don Pablo's. I'm quite bummed out, even though I didn't get along with the girl on the date. I thought she was a bit mean and disrespectful.

I have talked to her since and made the mistake of telling her I had asperger's. Now she assumes I am "disabled" and accused me of being dishonest for not mentioning that before hand.


-snip-
what is all this stuff about 'throwing 40$ "down the toilet". Didn't YOU eat? or did you just watch HER eat while you counted the minutes to see if you were going to 'get lucky?'

sheesh! save your money and buy an hour with a prostitute, then you won't have to complain!
(and ask yourself," hummm, I wonder if she picked up on my attitude and THAT's why I haven't heard back from her?"

I know I would have given you the air if I felt that from you, AS, Muscular Dystrophy, Asthma, or any other 'disability' you might have revealed or not.

but I suppose it is easier to blame it on something you can not change than something you can. . but won't.



You sound just like the kind of girl that would be a waste of money. I'd have Dutch first dates if I could get away with it.


see, you didn't spend a dime on me and allready I have no respect for you at ALL!

I guess your self fulfilling prophecy just came true!



No worries! I'm not interested in gold diggers.



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18 Jan 2008, 1:50 am

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Well I sent another message to the girl I've been in communication with this afternoon & still no response....does anyone think that the lack of a response may indicate an unwillingness on her part to continue the conversation?


No, she may not of even checked her messages yet.


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18 Jan 2008, 11:25 am

Dokken wrote:
MikeInVa wrote:
Well I sent another message to the girl I've been in communication with this afternoon & still no response....does anyone think that the lack of a response may indicate an unwillingness on her part to continue the conversation?


No, she may not of even checked her messages yet.


I dunno,in the beginning she'd respond almost every day & now nothing.Also POF let's you know on your page when you login if the person has read the mail you sent them & according to what my page says she did in fact read it.

I'll login & check sometime today to see wether or not she read my message sent last night,if I get no response then my guess is that I'm back to square one again.



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18 Jan 2008, 11:55 am

LVBen wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
MikeInVa wrote:
Dokken wrote:
LVBen wrote:
This past saturday I had a date with a girl I met from Plenty of Fish and well, I basically just threw 40 bucks down the toilet by taking the girl to Don Pablo's. I'm quite bummed out, even though I didn't get along with the girl on the date. I thought she was a bit mean and disrespectful.

I have talked to her since and made the mistake of telling her I had asperger's. Now she assumes I am "disabled" and accused me of being dishonest for not mentioning that before hand.


-snip-
what is all this stuff about 'throwing 40$ "down the toilet". Didn't YOU eat? or did you just watch HER eat while you counted the minutes to see if you were going to 'get lucky?'

sheesh! save your money and buy an hour with a prostitute, then you won't have to complain!
(and ask yourself," hummm, I wonder if she picked up on my attitude and THAT's why I haven't heard back from her?"

I know I would have given you the air if I felt that from you, AS, Muscular Dystrophy, Asthma, or any other 'disability' you might have revealed or not.

but I suppose it is easier to blame it on something you can not change than something you can. . but won't.



You sound just like the kind of girl that would be a waste of money. I'd have Dutch first dates if I could get away with it.

It's just a basic law of the land, the more money a man spends on his dates, the less respect the woman has for him, the less likely they are to appreciate him for who he is instead of how much money she can get out of him, the less likely it is to turn into something more than friendship, and the more likely he is to be wasting his time and money.

If you are truly a compatible couple, you shouldn't have to spend more than a few dollars. You should be able to enjoy each other's company by going on a picnic, swimming in a lake, discussing politics w/ a cup of coffee, playing video games, watching a meteor shower, watching the sun rise in the morning, dirty animal sex, and much more free or very cheap activities. Spending anything more than a few dollars on some girl that you just met and that you will never see again is a WASTE OF MONEY!



You should not be single.



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18 Jan 2008, 12:33 pm

Okay, I will elaborate as to why Ben should not be single.

He's attractive, he knows that spending too much money on a date makes someone seem like a try hard and desperate and you cannot trust that you will even see that person again, he seems to agree with equality and having common interests.

Some of you guys that just sit here and bash women and treat them like unintelligent sub species, well duh...it's no wonder why you are single.

Some of you obsess over looks and claim that's all women care about but then you talk about the hot women you can't have. You also have a skewed perception that females are too dumb to play video games.

I would not date a guy like that. It seems to me you just want to wallow because if not, you would look at the real problem and quit blaming all your woes on women who won't so graciously put out to you, yeah as if you are entitled to any girl.

If you have a low opinion of yourself and on top of that women, your hand is going to be your BFF!



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18 Jan 2008, 3:49 pm

On the contrary. I have appreciated Bens advice. I need to work on my self-confidence.



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18 Jan 2008, 5:22 pm

catspurr wrote:
Okay, I will elaborate as to why Ben should not be single.

He's attractive, he knows that spending too much money on a date makes someone seem like a try hard and desperate and you cannot trust that you will even see that person again, he seems to agree with equality and having common interests.

Some of you guys that just sit here and bash women and treat them like unintelligent sub species, well duh...it's no wonder why you are single.

Some of you obsess over looks and claim that's all women care about but then you talk about the hot women you can't have. You also have a skewed perception that females are too dumb to play video games.

I would not date a guy like that. It seems to me you just want to wallow because if not, you would look at the real problem and quit blaming all your woes on women who won't so graciously put out to you, yeah as if you are entitled to any girl.

If you have a low opinion of yourself and on top of that women, your hand is going to be your BFF!


Well, thank you!