27 Dec 2018, 4:58 pm
XFilesGeek wrote:
sly279 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
sly279 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm not MOST of these things----and I've done all right 
I make way under a six-figure salary.
I don't have a "six pack."
I'm way under 6 feet tall.
I don't have a 600 horsepower car. How many people do?
I might have been more than six months out of a relationship a few times in the past.
As far as "below the belt," it's average. Maybe six inches.
I don't have a "sixth sense."
I make way under a six-figure salary.
I don't have a "six pack."
I'm way under 6 feet tall.
I don't have a 600 horsepower car. How many people do?
I might have been more than six months out of a relationship a few times in the past.
As far as "below the belt," it's average. Maybe six inches.
I don't have a "sixth sense."
In the real world, average people hook-up with average people, and the world continues to rotate.
But to some, mostly the socially maladroit set, dating sites and trashy internet articles have become "reality." It's sad.
In the past maybe
In today’s reality most people have this or similar lists and so over half the USA population is single. Far more then in the past.
People keep hoping to find that perfect guy or perfect girl that never comes along cause they themselves aren’t perfect.
Just like people who’ve been unemployed for tens of years cause their waiting for the perfect job.
No.
I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships. And being "single" does not mean that people aren't hooking-up.
Hooking up isn’t a relationship.
Women will sleep with men they’d never date, women like sex too.
We are talking about relationships and half Americans aren’t in a relationship nor been in one in a while. Why? If women were picky surely most would be in a relationship.
There’s loads of men for them to date, they just aren’t well off men.
Die or even rats are at all time high too.
Birth rates are reaching a point of no return. Society is dying around you and you don’t notice or care. Well have a bunch of old single people with. It enough young people to pay their retirement. My generation will probably have to wait until 90 to retire and keep working all while complaining about being alone and having no men to date,
Lots of single picky 40 old women are now looking back with regret. Quite a few of the single men kill themselves.
Society is failing. We can’t not sustain this path.societys need to pair up and reproduce to continue. Ours is isolating itself, becoming more anti social.
I don’t get how anyone can see all this and think it’s ok.
Sorry, but you don't get to define what constitutes a "relationship."
And the low birth rate is due to many factors that occur in most post-industrial societies, not just women "being picky," but nice job trying to pin the doom of society on women.
No I don’t but society and government does and relationship
Society says relationship is gf/bf , definition is blood or marriage.
Nearly every single woman on dating sites say “ I want a relationship not a hookup” so seems that most everyone it yiu wouldn’t consider meeting up for sex a relationship.
It’s due to women not having 2-4 kids. Most aren’t having any kids as they never get with a guy.
Women pin it in men cause they just all lazy and poor. They say men aren’t trying enough to be real men. I see this on social media, YouTube and dating sites.
I blame society more. I blame majority of women who just follow society., the men who don’t fight society. Society has turned us all into consumer goods to be traded.
That’s all we are in western society.
A lot of women could reject it though. They could look around see thst most men are poor and change their requirements to march the current times instead of trying to live like its 1930.
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27 Dec 2018, 5:06 pm
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
No.
I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships.
I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships.
Same. Some of them more than one relationship going at the same time.
I've also been around a lot of guys who don't work at all, particularly when I was a bar maid, and they were mostly
in relationships most of the time. No, they weren't good looking or rich. They were mostly in bad nick and a bad
risk, but they were also sociable.
Only people working min wage jobs paring up are the ones going to college.
“Have a good job or be in college”
Why? College in theory leds to a good job.
So men in college aren’t losers.
Men who are working min wage as their sole job, not in colleg and will work min wage for the rest of their lives aren’t getting dates.
Min wage for most people is a stepping stone to something better,
All the women’s at my work are in college or dating or married to a man with a good job.
They come and go non stay for more then two years, except the wine married to good paid guy. They working for the extra income and discounts, I’ve heard them say so.
3/4 the men are going to college, other half are half retired men working for discounts, or men like me where this is it for them.
I’m 30.
Most the men and women working min wage are 18-24 and they talk about their future and love life. Talk about college. And then they like why are yiu here sly. Don’t yiu want better.dont you want a gf don’t yiu want a family, cause they kniw no woman will date men working min wage only with no future.
The drive for women to find financially stable men largely comes from a desire to have adequate resources for their future children. Any woman who wants to be a stay at home mother can't do so if in a relationship with you, as somebody needs to provide resources for the child, and part time min wage simply isn't going to suffice, so the woman has two options: date you and know that if she has children with you, she's going to have to be the breadwinner and you'd take on the role of the stay-at-home parent, or worse, she has to do everything herself or find someonewho makes enough to aid with the financial costs of rearing a child.
In the hunter-gatherer days, men would go out, hunt the food, maybe gather firewood and protect the women, etc while women would raise the children. The modern incarnation of that is the man going out and gathering resources from working and providing value to society, and the woman looking after the children, and while gender roles are more flexible in that regard than ever, you still need to have something to entice a woman to want to be with you over the other options she has in the form of other men. If you're not rich and work a good job, you need to be physically attractive, if you have neither of those things going for you, you need to at least be average and have exceptional social skills. If not that then you need something. What do you have that has the capacity to entice a woman into wanting to choose you as the only ma she wants to spend the rest of her life with? The less you have, the less options you have, and if the answer is nothing then that's what you're going to get back
Yes cause society says you have to be a millionaire to have kids. Which is wrong.
You don’t need 2 million dollars to habe a kid
Yiu don’t need a 4 bedroom hours to raise kids, yiu don’t need 3 cars to raise kids, yiu don’t need vacations to Europe to raise kids.
Poor people who make up most the population raise kids on 1/5 what most women think they need.
Most women don’t want to be stay at home moms though. They wouldn’t work if they didn’t have to but that doesn’t mean they’d stay hom caring for the kids. I don’t blame them. Most women today have to work. I just don’t see why they can’t date men who make less then them. The reasons are just excuses.
Well your logic of how hunter father worked is off but say it’s true so basically women are still using a system thousands of years old. That’s sexist, times changed. Women work,less men can work due to thst. So women either 1. Date unemployed and poor men.2. Remain single forever and never have kids3. Become a guys second or 3rd wife.
Thought feminism was suppose to get rid of all those sexist ideas and creat equality between sexes wher evergones treated the same
27 Dec 2018, 5:08 pm
27 Dec 2018, 5:26 pm
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
No.
I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships.
I've worked many "menial" jobs, and most everybody I worked with, the men included, had relationships.
Same. Some of them more than one relationship going at the same time.
I've also been around a lot of guys who don't work at all, particularly when I was a bar maid, and they were mostly
in relationships most of the time. No, they weren't good looking or rich. They were mostly in bad nick and a bad
risk, but they were also sociable.
Only people working min wage jobs paring up are the ones going to college.
“Have a good job or be in college”
Why? College in theory leds to a good job.
So men in college aren’t losers.
Men who are working min wage as their sole job, not in colleg and will work min wage for the rest of their lives aren’t getting dates.
Min wage for most people is a stepping stone to something better,
All the women’s at my work are in college or dating or married to a man with a good job.
They come and go non stay for more then two years, except the wine married to good paid guy. They working for the extra income and discounts, I’ve heard them say so.
3/4 the men are going to college, other half are half retired men working for discounts, or men like me where this is it for them.
I’m 30.
Most the men and women working min wage are 18-24 and they talk about their future and love life. Talk about college. And then they like why are yiu here sly. Don’t yiu want better.dont you want a gf don’t yiu want a family, cause they kniw no woman will date men working min wage only with no future.
The drive for women to find financially stable men largely comes from a desire to have adequate resources for their future children. Any woman who wants to be a stay at home mother can't do so if in a relationship with you, as somebody needs to provide resources for the child, and part time min wage simply isn't going to suffice, so the woman has two options: date you and know that if she has children with you, she's going to have to be the breadwinner and you'd take on the role of the stay-at-home parent, or worse, she has to do everything herself or find someonewho makes enough to aid with the financial costs of rearing a child.
In the hunter-gatherer days, men would go out, hunt the food, maybe gather firewood and protect the women, etc while women would raise the children. The modern incarnation of that is the man going out and gathering resources from working and providing value to society, and the woman looking after the children, and while gender roles are more flexible in that regard than ever, you still need to have something to entice a woman to want to be with you over the other options she has in the form of other men. If you're not rich and work a good job, you need to be physically attractive, if you have neither of those things going for you, you need to at least be average and have exceptional social skills. If not that then you need something. What do you have that has the capacity to entice a woman into wanting to choose you as the only ma she wants to spend the rest of her life with? The less you have, the less options you have, and if the answer is nothing then that's what you're going to get back
Yes cause society says you have to be a millionaire to have kids. Which is wrong.
You don’t need 2 million dollars to habe a kid
Yiu don’t need a 4 bedroom hours to raise kids, yiu don’t need 3 cars to raise kids, yiu don’t need vacations to Europe to raise kids.
Poor people who make up most the population raise kids on 1/5 what most women think they need.
Most women don’t want to be stay at home moms though. They wouldn’t work if they didn’t have to but that doesn’t mean they’d stay hom caring for the kids. I don’t blame them. Most women today have to work. I just don’t see why they can’t date men who make less then them. The reasons are just excuses.
Well your logic of how hunter father worked is off but say it’s true so basically women are still using a system thousands of years old. That’s sexist, times changed. Women work,less men can work due to thst. So women either 1. Date unemployed and poor men.2. Remain single forever and never have kids3. Become a guys second or 3rd wife.
Thought feminism was suppose to get rid of all those sexist ideas and creat equality between sexes wher evergones treated the same
I never said it takes a million dollars in yearly earnings to raise a child. Financial stability is not the same as being wealthy. Middle-class people can certainly have enough to raise children. And yeah, between dating a man they have no interest in or remaining single, most women will remain single. As a general rule, you either need to be at least somewhat physically attractive and take care of your appearance, or you need to be at least financially stable to be an eligible prospect to women in the dating market. Falling short in both those arenas is going to provide you with some significant challenges.
And re: Feminism. Feminism is all about women's rights. The definition is along the lines of "the advocacy for women's rights on the grounds of equality between the sexes." The whole premise is based on the idea that the only gender inequalities that exist, or at least the most severe ones, affect only women. Feminism is not for the most part campaigning for men's rights, and when theu are it's generally all about allowing men to be more open about their feelings or things along the lines of "the patriarchy hurts men too!" They don't listen to men's actual problems, they run with what's convenient for them, or what they perceive men's problems to be without ever actually asking or caring.
I can guarantee that most men's biggest grievance as it relates to male issues isn't an inability to express themselves emotionally, though feminists seem to believe that's the case.
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sly279 wrote:
That must have been really hard for your Mom. Especially with health issues and bringing up 2 kids.
She like a lot of single moms
Had support from her family. We lived with my grandma and grandpa(shortly before he died. My uncles pitched in. On uncles lived with us a lot growing up. He parked his trailer in our driveway, another contributed money occasionally and he didn’t have kids so he’d take us places like the fair, or bring us fireworks.
Poor family’s tend to all help.
We helped my brother with his daughter. They even lived with us for a year or so until they could get their own place.
If I got a gf and had kids my family would help some as I imagine hers would too. They could watch kids when we work etc. that assumes we’d have kids quite a few women don’t want kids and I’m not too sure I really do want more.
We’d get a apartment or house and live comfortably. Not middle class but we’d have food, each other, some entertainment. We could go on walks together everyday, I could cook her dinners. I don’t see any reason we couldn’t live happy lives. But I’ve been living like that for my whole life.
Nick and his gf are poor and they’re happy.
Poor couples can live very happy lives. You don’t need lots of money or things to be happy.[/quote]
Yeah, there's nothing quite like family
