Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men
That isn't quite true. It's just anytime a shooter has a diagnosis or suspicion of being autistic the media spreads it to the ends of the earth.
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That isn't quite true. It's just anytime a shooter has a diagnosis or suspicion of being autistic the media spreads it to the ends of the earth.
A lot of them did have official diagnosis though.
And the media went off on aspies are dangerous, and quite a lot of people and polistill think we are. It’s why I get friction with other pro gun people and prefer the smaller pro 2a people. One guy is like “ I worked at a mental hospital and aspies are violent prone and shouldn’t be out in public non less own guns”
“Aspies are violent mentally Ill people”
Anti gun people go after us too.
If you don’t own guns though I wouldn’t expect you to see the prejudice against us, but it’s there.
You're literally the only person on this forum fighting to be called an "incel". What does it matter?
Fine, call yourself an incel. No one cares.
Not the only one.
Is it really hard to say incel extremists?
Look hurtloam they saying I can’t use incel, they saying I can’t share conservative ides, I can’t use republican, I can’t use gun owne, I can’t use simi auto weapons
It goes on and on.
I’m saying no they can’t tells what I can use or what I can be or what I can think.
Them redefining words is not acceptable. Assault rifles are not simi auto I don’t care what the left says or what they redefine to meet their agenda.
Are you fine condemning groups for their minority?
Most mass shooters were aspies, so is nit the media right to condem all aspies.?
This is L&D. There's no point moaning about the PPR section here. I'm not that interested in American politics, so I can't comment. I don't read those PPR threads.
But the group who redefined the term "incel" were not us members of WP. It was the guys on the incel forums. They took it and it's now a different meaning to what it was. Even the woman who coined the term admits that it's been turned from it's original intent.
Anyway. I think we all should just stop arguing with Sly on this stupid defining the term incel thing. He's never going to get it. If we stop responding. Then this stupid argument dies.
You're literally the only person on this forum fighting to be called an "incel". What does it matter?
Fine, call yourself an incel. No one cares.
Not the only one.
Is it really hard to say incel extremists?
Look hurtloam they saying I can’t use incel, they saying I can’t share conservative ides, I can’t use republican, I can’t use gun owne, I can’t use simi auto weapons
It goes on and on.
I’m saying no they can’t tells what I can use or what I can be or what I can think.
Them redefining words is not acceptable. Assault rifles are not simi auto I don’t care what the left says or what they redefine to meet their agenda.
Are you fine condemning groups for their minority?
Most mass shooters were aspies, so is nit the media right to condem all aspies.?
This is L&D. There's no point moaning about the PPR section here. I'm not that interested in American politics, so I can't comment. I don't read those PPR threads.
But the group who redefined the term "incel" were not us members of WP. It was the guys on the incel forums. They took it and it's now a different meaning to what it was. Even the woman who coined the term admits that it's been turned from it's original intent.
Anyway. I think we all should just stop arguing with Sly on this stupid defining the term incel thing. He's never going to get it. If we stop responding. Then this stupid argument dies.
It’s the same people doing both so I do beleive there’s a political reason behind them condemning all incels for the actions of the incel extremists.
No extremists can’t redefine a word unless everyone does so too. This is what I was always told about feminist otherwise feminist extremists redefined feminism and feminist, do you support not using feminism or feminist?
It’s about the same number of people so if they can redefine incel then Same is true of feminist.
I don’t think you’ll ever get it. We as society don’t condem groups for actions of their minority
It is that core morality that I’m arguing for
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As a guy I find this rhetoric demeaning.
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I have one more point to make and I'm washing hands of this nonsense.
Feminism is a widely understood term that has been used for the bwttwr part of a century. I defy you to find a person who hasnt heard the term feminist.
Incel is a very niche term. It's known only to those with their finger on the pulse of modern internet terms or those who watch the news of what extreme incels have done.
Most people have never heard the term incel. Defending this tiny niche word is a waste of time. It's like trying to claim the word Awhape or Swerp or Dowsable (all real words).
The general public don't care. Even using the word incel in an innocent way means as much as calling someone a Dowsable
Feminism is a widely understood term that has been used for the bwttwr part of a century. I defy you to find a person who hasnt heard the term feminist.
Incel is a very niche term. It's known only to those with their finger on the pulse of modern internet terms or those who watch the news of what extreme incels have done.
Most people have never heard the term incel. Defending this tiny niche word is a waste of time. It's like trying to claim the word Awhape or Swerp or Dowsable (all real words).
The general public don't care. Even using the word incel in an innocent way means as much as calling someone a Dowsable
We’ll have to agree to disagree
The general public doesn’t care about violent incels or see them as a concern.
They don’t care about aspies either and most don’t know we exist.
Half of those who do think we’re dangerous to society.
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What rhetoric ?
Most of this thread
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All I said is that I find this thread demeaning towards people in general. There's too much negative subtext.
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There is no bigotry against involuntarily celibate men; there is only bigotry against involuntarily celibate men who complain about being involuntarily celibate to such an extent that they derail unrelated threads to express their misery over being involuntarily celibate, start multiple threads expressing their misery over being involuntarily celibate, demonize or "blame-and-shame" women for allegedly causing their misery over being involuntarily celibate, and openly attack women (and anyone else) who points out that it's their behavior that repels others, not the state of their celibacy.
Honestly, if a man were to pull the same crap on the job, his employment would be terminated solely on the grounds that he would have been creating a hostile work environment through his sexist behavior and his hostility toward women, and it would have absolutely nothing to do with any non-existent "bigotry" against his involuntary celibacy. Nothing!
In my opinion, the mods may be well within the scope and purpose of this website to treat any and all forms of misogyny in a more aggressive manner, while ignoring any and all false claims of bigotry against involuntarily celibate men.
That isn't quite true. It's just anytime a shooter has a diagnosis or suspicion of being autistic the media spreads it to the ends of the earth.
A lot of them did have official diagnosis though.
And the media went off on aspies are dangerous, and quite a lot of people and polistill think we are. It’s why I get friction with other pro gun people and prefer the smaller pro 2a people. One guy is like “ I worked at a mental hospital and aspies are violent prone and shouldn’t be out in public non less own guns”
“Aspies are violent mentally Ill people”
Anti gun people go after us too.
If you don’t own guns though I wouldn’t expect you to see the prejudice against us, but it’s there.
I have no idea whether there is bias against involuntary celibate males because I'm not one so I don't know how
they are treated but being a spinster does involve answering a lot of personal questions. If you are not fitting the
template, everyone wants to know why. I am considering telling my next inquisitor that I was in prison for a long
time.
I will now use the term Incelnazi when I mean the women haters.
Sly,who are the smaller pro 2a people?
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It’s meaning hasn’t changed, nor has feminist as they say.
You can’t condemn, the whole group for the actions of a few, I beleive you’ve said that yourself. Then when it’s a group of people you don’t like and a few of the, do bad stuff you’re fine throwing the the whole group under. I don’t like feminist and some of them are radicals so we should throw feminist under too?
Any defense you have for feminist can be used interchangeably with Incels. Those forums are a minority.
So weather we condem, all groups for the actions of their minorities or we don’t condemn all groups for the actions of their minorities. You should refer to the, as incel extremists as we are suppose to with feminist extremists. That’s why the word extremists exists.
So until this condemning of groups for their extremist parts is done across the board I will defend the silent incel majority who isn’t bad.
I f*****g hate hypocrisy.
Incel extremists are no different then any other groups extremists.
But what do I expect from a site full of people who condemn all Republicans and conservatives for racist bigots who happen to be conservative Republicans, it say you can’t condem the left for antifa or black life matters or anti gun people.
Extreme Feminists should change, they're awful. Or at least they should not expect people to respect their behaviour.
You do realise "Incel" is not the same as "someone who has been single for a long time"? Incel is a sub-group of women haters.
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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 327AAqdgGi Like, I asked this because someone I know might wind up in trouble someday if he pisses off the wrong woman. His tendency to approach every female he finds attractive is potentially getting him into trouble, and he accidentally has wound up flirting with a minor because he thought she was older. I understand that there might be some nuance missing 'cause this is only through descriptions on the Internet, but that's what his descriptions make it seem like, and like, this is close to home or something despite not caring about dating beyond just silly crushing. 'Cause there were times that I thought the entire world was like, some tiny little community where everyone is supposed to act like we all are best friends and we owe other people our boundaries and you're an evil a**hole if you dare question that or whatever. It does make me wonder TBH. Ugh, you could tell I'm agitated or whatever. File this under "things I shouldn't care about and which I only care about because of my anxiety."