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RageBeoulve
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25 Jul 2009, 10:33 pm

I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.



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25 Jul 2009, 11:21 pm

Being asexual would have it's perks....quite a lot in fact. More time to read!!



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25 Jul 2009, 11:23 pm

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Nothing about the gay behavior makes sense to me ever...except going to clubs. I love the sensory experience from clubs. With the music and lights there to calm me, I don't get overloaded by all the people. Plus, it's usually too loud to talk, which I like.


Wow that's brave. I'd be freaked out to go to a club...they all sound so violent....lonely peeps and booze makes for a possibly dangerous situation...But that's just my take. Never been there so maybe they're not all bad.



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26 Jul 2009, 6:35 am

RageBeoulve wrote:
I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.


see i never understand that, pride in thing you have no control over. its like being proud of having brown hair, woopty doo, or being proud of liking apples more than oranges.

being gay is no more a thing one ought to be proud of than it is to be ashamed



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26 Jul 2009, 6:08 pm

CactusKid wrote:
dustintorch wrote:
Nothing about the gay behavior makes sense to me ever...except going to clubs. I love the sensory experience from clubs. With the music and lights there to calm me, I don't get overloaded by all the people. Plus, it's usually too loud to talk, which I like.


Wow that's brave. I'd be freaked out to go to a club...they all sound so violent....lonely peeps and booze makes for a possibly dangerous situation...But that's just my take. Never been there so maybe they're not all bad.


They can be violent but I grew up around a lot of violence so it's not that big of a deal for me. Also, they're not violent often. I don't always drink when I go. I prefer not to because I don't like the way I feel drunk. I also love sex and loud music. You can get both of those things from a club.



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26 Jul 2009, 6:10 pm

mark2410 wrote:
RageBeoulve wrote:
I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.


see i never understand that, pride in thing you have no control over. its like being proud of having brown hair, woopty doo, or being proud of liking apples more than oranges.

being gay is no more a thing one ought to be proud of than it is to be ashamed


I think we have to be proud. If we're not proud, we're either ashamed or indifferent...Neither one of those will get us the rights we deserve. IMO



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26 Jul 2009, 8:04 pm

mark2410 wrote:
RageBeoulve wrote:
I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.

see i never understand that, pride in thing you have no control over. its like being proud of having brown hair, woopty doo, or being proud of liking apples more than oranges.

being gay is no more a thing one ought to be proud of than it is to be ashamed


The word "pride" in the phrase "LGBT pride" (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride) does not refer only to the emotion that one feels when one does something well. The word "pride" in this context is an antonym for "shame". Shame is used as a tool to oppress people who are different. The LGBT pride movement is based on the premise that we have nothing to be ashamed of, and that we deserve equal rights. Pride parades are a way that we increase our visibiliy in our communities, which leads to public acceptance.

LGBT pride is not comparable to being proud of one's hair color or preference for a certain type of food, because in general, people are not discriminated against for those things. In general, no one is going to fire you from your job because you like apples, or beat you up for having brown hair, but LGBT people experience these things, and worse. If people were discriminated against for brown hair or liking apples, a Brown Hair Pride or Apple Eaters Pride movement would probably emerge in response.



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27 Jul 2009, 2:03 am

sg33 wrote:
mark2410 wrote:
RageBeoulve wrote:
I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.

see i never understand that, pride in thing you have no control over. its like being proud of having brown hair, woopty doo, or being proud of liking apples more than oranges.

being gay is no more a thing one ought to be proud of than it is to be ashamed


The word "pride" in the phrase "LGBT pride" (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride) does not refer only to the emotion that one feels when one does something well. The word "pride" in this context is an antonym for "shame". Shame is used as a tool to oppress people who are different. The LGBT pride movement is based on the premise that we have nothing to be ashamed of, and that we deserve equal rights. Pride parades are a way that we increase our visibiliy in our communities, which leads to public acceptance.

LGBT pride is not comparable to being proud of one's hair color or preference for a certain type of food, because in general, people are not discriminated against for those things. In general, no one is going to fire you from your job because you like apples, or beat you up for having brown hair, but LGBT people experience these things, and worse. If people were discriminated against for brown hair or liking apples, a Brown Hair Pride or Apple Eaters Pride movement would probably emerge in response.


I actually think there's something like that for blondes, because there's such a stereotype about them being idiots.



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27 Jul 2009, 5:47 am

sg33 wrote:
mark2410 wrote:
RageBeoulve wrote:
I'm Gay and proud to be gay. Gay Pride World Wide.

see i never understand that, pride in thing you have no control over. its like being proud of having brown hair, woopty doo, or being proud of liking apples more than oranges.

being gay is no more a thing one ought to be proud of than it is to be ashamed


The word "pride" in the phrase "LGBT pride" (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride) does not refer only to the emotion that one feels when one does something well. The word "pride" in this context is an antonym for "shame". Shame is used as a tool to oppress people who are different. The LGBT pride movement is based on the premise that we have nothing to be ashamed of, and that we deserve equal rights. Pride parades are a way that we increase our visibiliy in our communities, which leads to public acceptance.

LGBT pride is not comparable to being proud of one's hair color or preference for a certain type of food, because in general, people are not discriminated against for those things. In general, no one is going to fire you from your job because you like apples, or beat you up for having brown hair, but LGBT people experience these things, and worse. If people were discriminated against for brown hair or liking apples, a Brown Hair Pride or Apple Eaters Pride movement would probably emerge in response.


well i accept that in some places discrimination is a problem but i dont think "pride" helps, its just an excuse to stop traffic and have a party. if anything it makes things worse for enforsing stereotupes with mincing queens dancing to kylie, condoms being handed out by the fist full and other such debauched activities.

prides a load of bollocks, i havent voluntarily been to the local one in years,lol the one this year i was about 200 yards from it and i couldnt be bothered going and i dont think hardly any of my gay friends went either. so you all like cock or minge (delete as appropriate) why would else anyone care?

there just isnt a need for that sort of thing here, half the citys gay anway. like a catholic pride parade round the vatican



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14 Aug 2009, 1:23 am

Thanks sg33.

The aspie community is where the gay community was, what, 30 years ago? The condition classified as a disease. Blatant discrimination. Individuals isolated, with very few networking resources. Eugenics proposals. How many people do we see here who say they don't know any other aspies?

I don't think we'll be seeing aspie pride parades soon, but there is definitely a movement to take responsibility for our own community and define it according to our talents instead of our impairments, and for us to directly help the other members of our community.


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14 Aug 2009, 1:55 am

hmmm I'm bi... and always thought I might be. Then it was pretty much has it confirmed when I got the hots for a female acquaintance about 10 months ago.

As for Aspie pride... Have any of ya'll heard of The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network?



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14 Aug 2009, 10:32 am

I'm gay. For a long time, I wasn't so thrilled about it, but I realize that between my AS and being gay, I see the world in a way so few people ever will, and I like that I truly live a life less ordinary.



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14 Aug 2009, 9:18 pm

sg33 wrote:
If people were discriminated against for brown hair or liking apples, a Brown Hair Pride or Apple Eaters Pride movement would probably emerge in response.


Apple Eaters Pride sounds kind of fun. There'd be really good food at the parades and such. Personally I hate the orientation labels all together because the sexuality spectrum is so broad and varied. Of course without the labels there is a lot of tedious explaining, but it kind of sucks for those in the bi-box since nearly everyone on 2-6 of the Kinsey scale gets pushed into it and only the 3's really fit the description.

Me, I'm sort of bi (somewhere between a 2 and a 2.5). I like some women, but I prefer men mostly.

As far as the pride part I kind of see there is something to be proud of. A lot of progress for equal rights is being made (slow but it's happening, and when you look at how long women's rights and black rights movements took, the gay rights movement isn't doing too bad). And currently in many places it's necessary, but will go away once the rights have been achieved and set in just as it did for other movements and being gay or bi or w/e will just be normal like a hair color.