"Creepy" guys

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I should introduce you to my sister. Ugh. Though she may be more sleazy than creepy.

Probably the large disparity between numbers of creepy men and creepy women is that by and large in our society, women are the receivers of overt sexual advances rather than the perpetrators. Women indicate interest through flattery, coyness, artificial helplessness, and neediness.

Which is why a dominatrix can be so hot... a complete reversal of the usual role for women.

You might research women stalkers... that'd be the creepy sorts. Though I suspect they may actually be extreme versions of the needy, dependent type (I can't live without you!).

Just like with AS, symptoms of creepy females may present differently.

What, as a guy, would creep you out if a woman did it to you?

you might be forgetting anyone's matriarchical mother, DB.

Merle

I come from a long line of matriarchs. I can be as imperious and decisive as any. I've known some dominatrix'. There is a difference. Because the dominatrix is a sexual persona and the matriarch is probably more often seen as on the other end of the spectrum... asexual. The matriarch is more of a business persona.

Hence, it's rather like comparing apples to oranges. Both are strong female roles, but one is sexual and the other is not.

to your perception, perhaps. . . but having been a semi-pro Domme I gotta tell you that sex is not the whole story.

Merle

[quote="Maggiedoll]
True.. but at the same time, someone who you're uncomfortable with isn't someone you should be getting into a relationship with..
I may know logically that ghosts probably aren't going to hurt me, but that doesn't mean I want to date one.

And sometimes going with that gut feeling that something-isn't-right-about-this-guy will save your life. Less so for aspies who might not recognize it, and a shame for aspie guys when the something-not-right is asperger's.. But a lot of times, when something seems off about a guy, it's because he's dangerous.[/quote]

Good point. And yes, some people might giggle and use creepy in a silly way. I don't use the term lightly myself, I reserve it for describing really feeling that something's wrong or they are aggressively persistent.
I'd post a funny picture on the subject of 'creepy', but I'm not sure if it would lighten this subject or annoy people. Should I post it?

Well, I await enlightenment. If you can manage it here.

But in general, I don't think the matriarch is a sexually geared persona... which isn't the same as saying it doesn't turn some folks on, but let's face it...

Hillary Clinton
Madeline Albright
Margeret Thatcher
Angela Merkel
Eleanor Roosevelt
Golda Meir

are not generally considered hot.

Xena was.

Maybe if Hillary had carried a whip she might have won?

I've heard of 'yummy mummies'. Meh just thought I'd add two cents.

Anyway here's the pic, purely for the lols



He looks so angry

Love to know the history behind that one...

Edited to add:
Ah, no fair, you changed the picture!
Though this one is more on topic, the pic with the guy in the tutu carrying an assault rifle was funnier.

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On the topic of creepy women... Anyone watch The Tudors on Showtime? King Henry's latest conquest (in the series, not in history), Catherine Howard, gives me the creeps. She's what I would call a creepy girl. One of my first suitemates in college was a creep too. She couldn't stand it when people didn't like her (I didn't like her.) because "like, everybody likes me!! !" She seriously disturbed me.

The matriarch is quite specifically, I believe, a maternal role..

It reminds me of one of the little "cultural considerations" in my emergency medicine group that pointed out that in some (particularly Hispanic) families, a male family member (particularly a father) will frequently act as a family spokesperson, but that females are frequently very involved in making decisions about healthcare. (there was a lot of reference to multi-generational households, which is why I'm being vague about the specific roles.. the exact family relationship wasn't important) The point was not to assume that the person who is doing most of the speaking for the family is the only one making decisions.

What I think I'm trying to say is that the matriarch role is powerful, but in a very female way that doesn't (to me) actually constitute a role reversal or detract from the sphere of male control.. It's more the divided thing.

Ok, lol, I'm starting to forget my point. Please excuse my somewhat aimless rambling.. there was a point somewhere in there, really there was.
I'm gonna go walk my dog now.

In any case, whether it's Hillary Clinton or my G'ma, it's not a sexual role, it's more a business/management role.

I've been a creep before, I mean not a stalking creep but a guy who just missed the point and argued a lot. Years down the road, it's lesson learned, if a subject botheres someone, let it change and let yourself walk away.

As far as my encounters go, I've had women who had boundary issues with me (my unreasonable expectations were to blame, 1 night stands and flings aren't as simple as people make them out to be), I wouldn't call them creeps, but I would say I have a hard time avoiding them.

I even had a couple of guys who showed even less self control and wanted me to have feelings that just weren't there.

In the relationship circle, it boils down to unrequitted love/feelings. Some people don't understand theirs and try to come to terms in socially inappropriate ways. Calling them creeps will only offend and confuse them, I confronted someone who called me a creep behind my back (along with starting a nasty rumor), she lied about it to my face and I couldn't prove she was lying without being more of a creep myself.

If there is any such thing as a creep, then we've all been creeps at one point and I think it's a good idea to forgive them as long as they don't harm other people.

That may well be true. I guess what you originally described as "creepy" for women to me just amounted to them being absolutely clear about what they wanted.



I would say, suggesting that she tie me up for sexual purposes without us knowing each other well, trying to follow me into my house when I'd explicitly said she was uninvited, wanting to read personal things on my computer, and a few things like that.

A woman wanting to show me part of her body (such as a "naughty" tattoo) would never be creepy in the least, and I feel that most other creepy things would likely be stopped in their tracks unless the woman was totally irrational. Because any sexual advance would at least lead me to start a conversation about her sexual needs, if nothing more. I'd never put up the kind of "wall" that a lot of sexually disinterested women seem to put up, unless I really felt in danger.

Don't take me as a representative guy, though. I seem to have been born without the capacity to feel the kind of sexual disgust that so many others seem to be so familiar with.

It's also possible for something that seems creepy to one person not to seem creepy to another.. It's about understanding. While understanding different types of people is important, it's not necessarily what you want for a romantic relationship.. If you have trouble understanding a person's nature in general, it's going to make the relationship more difficult. Just because somebody, once you get to know more about them, is a good person, doesn't mean that they're the right match for you. If it takes massive amounts of effort to understand anything about someone, an intimate relationship/marriage seems unlikely to be sustainable. Men and women have more than enough trouble understanding each other to begin with, without creating more trouble. One person might find something in particular creepy, but another can understand it and be totally comfortable with it. In the case of the former, a romantic relationship may just not be feasible, because they'd be forever second-guessing each other's motives and meanings. How could you really keep that up for a lifetime, constantly having to explain and re-explain your meanings? Some people will "get" you.. others won't. When you find someone who can understand what you mean even when you're not making complete sense... It's a wonderful feeling.

Actually................."creepy" is girltalk for an unattractive guy. A lot of women expect guys to pick up on their lack of interest and not try to woo them in the first place but this rarely happens. Guys make mistakes, gals feel threatened and irritated.

Here's a creepy woman now...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 138908.stm