What Do You Like About Women?

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Well I have had more female roommates (not even counting sexual in first comment), I like how they act, think, behave better, I get in fights with every guy I know, with women I can be chill and just hang out. Every friend of mine was/is female, be it just watching tv, going to park or smoking up a crack pipe women can be alot more fun and I just feel safer around them...and when it comes to sex, I prefer to keep my closest female friends "as friends" and find sex elsewhere, it tends to mess up a good friendship.

So-called "female traits" are largely the product of social indoctrination. Women as a group are not naturally docile, graceful, sensitive, nurturing, fashionable, affectionate, moral, or peaceful, just as they as a group are not naturally deceitful, cruel or parasitic. Girls are trained from birth to suppress their aggression and to be "sweet" and accommodating, to avoid confrontation. It is wrong to ascribe these behaviors to biology. Gender roles are enforced with the threat of violence - ask any butch lesbian, or any AS woman who doesn't follow the script. Gender is a social construct.

What do I like about women? Well, there are a zillion things, but I think the thing I admire most about women is their willingness to seek solace from other women during times of stress or anxiety or unhappiness. Men almost never do that. I also like that they don't feel it necessary to respond with exxaggerated machismo when they perceive a slight.

When I retired, I was working in an office where it was just me and 25 women (I designed and created the software for their department). What an experience that was. I do think it helped me gain some small amount of insight into the female way of seeing the world.

MsDoubt, sorry, it looks like the words to directly answer your request to list things liked and disliked just aren't going to come today. There's ideas, but can't pin words on them right now.

Well, wait a minute, here's 2 thoughts:
1. like - how some women really connect with nature and living things - my wife is a percentage Native American, which really drives that, and will see and point out to me things like a group of turkeys in a field we're driving by.

2. dislike - how so many buy into the hollywood look of makeup with string thin eyebrows and coal black mascara turning their eyelashes into clumps of weeds - ladies, that's not attractive

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I would love to work in an office that was otherwise mostly women, especially if they weren't that technically savvy... which reminds me of another thing I like about women: I do enjoy being able to help women with things that they don't understand (especially technology-wise), even if only in the context of a professional working relationship, since it gives me a sense of worth in this world...

Yes, I know it's a nerd version of the "knight in shining armor" fantasy, and it's incredibly chauvenistic, but deep down, I don't know any man that doesn't have some variant on this fantasy kicking around in their heads...

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Not to sound too harsh, but I think that's cherry-picking a little. Of course there are a few women out there who don't embody the traits I listed, but that doesn't mean such traits don't exist or even that they aren't found in the majority of women.

You say that gender roles are enforced with the threat of violence, but I think you may be forgetting one key issue: women are the ones who have breasts! As a result, they naturally spend more time taking care of babies and have evolved to become better at it, while men have evolved to utilize their skills in other disciplines.

If you do find yourself in that situation, take care not to assume that they are not "technically savvy". In our company, I saw how the tech support people in IT condescended to them and talked down to them rather blatantly, and it infuriated them. I understand what you're saying about helping them ... I just mean to take them seriously and respect their knowledge level, even if you're the expert.

Oh yes, of course... in fact I'm usually grateful if they have at least some knowledge since it makes my life easier in dealing with whatever problems arise (since then they don't have the really basic problems that sometimes arise but are otherwise easy to deal with)...

QFT.

And if you're a female arguing or whining like most guys do, you're just bitching or being a total b***h.

There seems to still be double standards to what females do as opposed to guys including whoring around....if you're "desperate".

I love women too much to describe. In all the years I have been growing up, even though I have been around them less and less over the years, women have always been pretty kind to me. It has never truly mattered that I haven't been in a relationship with a woman, otherwise I'm sure that different circumstances would probably have made me bitter.

There is something infinitely beautiful about women, all kinds of them. Physically and mentally. It is often ironic in my eyes that all the genuinely beautiful and truly pretty girls I've met and known have always been the nicest to me and the easiest to get on with and chill with. I think there is a difference between girls who are sexy beautiful and girls who are infinitely beautiful, there's an innocence about them, so much so that even guys don't think about approaching them........sorry I'm babbling now lol.

I love a woman's sense of emotional being, their capacity for kindness and just generally having a different outlook on the world. When you are around guys a lot, it is really comforting and relaxing to be in the company of women.

Does this imply all Females,
or is this Humans only?

Words could not describe something as abstract and beautiful as a woman.

Of course the traits exist in human beings. My point is that people neglect to consider the role of cultural indoctrination in producing various gender-assigned traits.



Plenty of people who are born genetically female grow have their breasts surgically removed in adulthood, so they can live as men, and plenty of cisgender women neither have nor want children. Clearly, a person's breasts cannot be taken as an indicator of a person's gender identity, nor can they be taken as an indicator of the presence of traits associated with the gender role assigned to people of that sex. Plenty of cisgender men are naturally more docile and nurturing, while plenty of cisgender women are more aggressive and independent. Even if women or men as a group tend to skew slightly in one direction or another, one cannot look to an individual's biological sex for indications about a person's personality, because the difference between individuals is too great, and because of failure to factor in cultural indoctrination.

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I doubt that non-human animals' attitudes, beliefs, and behavior are as significantly affected as humans' are by, say, the advertising industry, so, yeah, I'm talking about humans. Our culture is replete with messages that profoundly affect how people think and behave; we can't just turn to biology and say "that explains everything".

Alright, I'll grant that social reinforcement plays some role in gender personality. But I don't think it's entirely responsible.

What might be silly is if the positive and caring qualities of women are being 'negated' for men, who are encouraged to be stupid and destructive in our culture for the purpose of sexual dimorphism. "Oh, look, he can blow people's heads off! He's a man!" Just because we're not the ones nursing babies doesn't mean we need to take our personalities to the ridiculously opposite extreme.

Just something for 'macho men' to think about.

I hope so.