What Do You Guys Think of Models?

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What insecurities? They have a job that millions of women wish they could have. As somebody else sais, they are alpha women.

To get to know and enter a relationship with such person is one thing, but to make the relationship last long term is a far different story. I have found people who are overly concerned about appearances to be very needy, and I reach a point when I lose all my energy and have nothing left to give, and yet it's not enough and the person does not give anything in return. Sure, there could very well be models whose values aren't just skin-deep, and that would be great... but for those models who really are like that, it simply isn't worth it to pursue anything long term with them.

I would think it would be more difficult. This may be another unjustified stereotype, but I think they usually go towards the alpha male types and would be as instantly put off by that "aspie vibe" people seem to get just being near us. Plus, I think you would have to already know her quite well for her to even share her insecurities with you as a basis for a relationship.

You are absolutely right. Most truly gorgeous women have dated so many control freak alpha-male a**holes, and continue to do so until their mid or even late 30s. It is then that they finally figure it out and try to find a nice guy. Unfortunately by then they are distrustful, bitter, jaded, and often have unwanted children who they 'love very much' (yeah right). Last woman I went out with was a tall blonde former-swimmer, and an occasional model. She stopped seeing me after just two dates, in favor of a married guy father of two young kids. This guy was a manager at a sales company and had like 200 people working for him. She even said he was a control freak and still she picked him.

The advantage of high-fashion modeling is that you can make some money at a young age and also get to travel. Heck, if I was 5'8" or taller and 17 I would do it in an instant. Paris, NY, Milan and Tokyo.

However, most models aren't high fashion. You can model for the discount clothing warehouse down the street and get paid $50 for 10 hours worth of work. You can be a model for a car dealership at the car show, 12 hours and $200 of standing on your feet in heels. Or the most popular modeling jobs of all, nude modeling, all day, no pay and a creepy photographer trying desperately to get into your pants. If you are lucky he buys you lunch and gives you 5-6 photoshopped pics of yourself naked that he will happily post on his website as an example of his "work".

However, the minute you tell the world you are a "model" something happens to you, your status changes. The men seem a little more interested and want to know you. Guys want to tell their friends that they are dating a model, even if she only modeled naked one time and didn't get paid.

Models can be all types, they can be successful business people. I had an administrative assistant once that said she had done extensive modeling, I thought with her crazy dangerous behavior she belonged in a loony bin. I've known prostitutes that also modeled, there is a thin line between prostitution, naked modeling and porn.

So if you want a model, go for it, but it may not be as smooth sailing as you think.

It's not quite that simple. I did a little amateur modeling at 16 for a NY/CT alternative/punk rag, but that was about it (I've appeared in a handful of industrial bands' videos in the last 10 years, as well, but I doubt that those have seen/will see the light of day). I'm 6'1" and was told years ago that I was too tall for the American market (and possibly the European markets, as well). I've never been a size 2 or anorexic, either, and I've got the shoulders of a linebacker - not model material, sadly. The vast majority of men have never been interested in knowing me, incidentally.

You are not too tall. I'm taller than you honey.

I've done some outdoor "action" modelling for a local photographer. Cycling, running, that sort of thing. It is nothing like fashion modelling though. I just did my thing and the photographer took lots of pictures and used the best ones.

"Honey?!" *Splutters* Pfffft.

I just re-read my last, and it sound harsh. That's the way we are... always honest and to the point. I apologize if I've made you feel bad SINsister. That was not my intention. Instead, I wanted you to rethink your situation. I've had nothing but best intentions in mind.

I've spent.... well 15 years bumbling about making the same mistakes, and making excuses as to why I was single and why I couldn't meet anyone. It wasn't until this past spring when I learned about AS and started to read and research, that I realized what the problem was.

I was socially inept, insecure, afraid of upsetting or inconveniencing people to a point of absurdity, projecting weird body language and eye contact, and basically projecting creepiness without actually being creepy at all. I'm the most gentle level-headed person who has so much to offer. But no one would give me a chance to prove that.

Everything has changed for me since I learned about AS and discovered this board. It had allowed me to break the cycle and stop making excuses, avoid meltdowns and frustrations, and stop making the same mistakes over and over again.

Last edited by Dilbert on 09 Sep 2009, 5:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I'm pretty. I have long blond hair, I'm thin and toned. I have beautiful blue eyes.

And when I walk into a room of men most of them don't give me the time of day. I know why too. I stand straight, my voice is authoritative. I'm not demure. I've watched other less imposing sweeter-looking women, they get all the attention. Men are attracted to pretty, easy and docile.

But that is okay. I've never let that stop me for a minute. I make the effort to introduce myself to the people with whom I need to meet. 98% of the time they are gracious and talkative. Once in a blue moon somebody cops an attitude, I don't care their problems are bigger than mine. Within a few minutes of being personable I can be the most popular person in a room.

But reading some of the posts on this board you would think that anyone who goes out of their way to introduce themselves to someone they don't know would fall through a crack in the earth that suddenly got created.

Erm, my comments were in reference to having been rejected by modeling agents, not by men in general. Still...well, yes. Guys even called me "Too Tall" when I was younger, in reference, I think (?) to Ed "Too Tall" Jones. MEH. I've been dealing with other people's ignorant comments and behavior because of my height since I was little. Don't argue with me, man.

Regardless: guys, while drunk, have mentioned that they find me intimidating. Well, I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do about that. My horrible posture as a teen/young adult readily reflected my self-loathing; I now walk with my head held high, and make a real effort (and it really IS one, sometimes) to keep my shoulders straight and not hunched. When I can force myself to do so, I look people in the eye while speaking, and smile.

Well, that's what it feels like, I'm sure. Not having the guts to put it into practice very often (if ever), I envy those who risk the terror and the potential for rejection.

Sorry to be nosy, but I just looked at your profile - you're NT. How can you relate, anyway?

Yeah I missed that. Sorry. I flash-read forum posts (Only e-mail and forum posts. I'm a patient book reader! Weird.), so I see not words but meanings, ideas and thoughts. And sometimes a particular point or a nuance will slip right through the process.

I laughed when I read about your posture. I too have walked around hunched and with my eyes low when I was depressed and lonely. Almost as if the world had beaten me to a pulp and there was nothing left but an empty shell.

Like I said everything changed for me in the last 3 years, and with it my posture straighened out and I now walk around straight and proud. Weird, eh?

I've edited my previous post.

Again, do you think all NTs are alike? I suffered from painful shyness as a child. I couldn't talk to anyone. That followed me through young adulthood.

I majored in science and didn't have to talk to anyone during college.

However, I hated being stuck in the lab and knew that wanted to be free from having to sit in an office. The only jobs available to women at that time that would allow me to be outdoors and free was sales.

I had no choice but to learn to be the life of the party. Those first few years were quite a struggle, but I got over it. I learned that being personable can be a learned skillset. Hence, my Dale Carnegie recommendations. Dale saved my life.

And that is how I can relate.

Oh, I wasn't really annoyed with you, Dilbert, or hurt by what you'd said initially.
It seems, though, that you've only got one strike against you, as it were, while I've got two (or three, if you count the IQ).

It seems my m.o. is offending people unintentionally. I guess I should've worded my post to you differently - sorry!

To answer your question: I don't know. I've felt like such an alien all my life that I still wonder whether I'm really human. I can't seem to truly relate to anyone at all. I liken it to living inside a bubble. The bubble brushes against other people now and then (which passes for "interaction"), but it's only at the surface. I'm totally disconnected, really.