Feminism, blessing or disaster?

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exactly. every movement needs its extremists in order for the middle to be taken seriously.


Speaking as an american feminist: yes, the movement is/was important, but unfortunately, like the rest of american culture, it's all about "i want" and "give me" and "i want choice". Women just end up being spun around in the consumerist cyclone. The planet is going to pot, families are messed up, and the happy index is way down.

There just wasn't enough love, imho.[/quote]

So you're saying the planet is going to pot because of 'the movement'.

With extra privilege you mean YOU are now doing the dishes?

Agreed, Feminism has one major flaw, women want equal pay and treatment, however when we guys treat them like we treat other guys, we get sent to sensativity training because we told a dirty joke or we talked about the sex we got last night... (Sorry I had to make that carlos mencia reference...)

You can ether be treated equally, or you can be treated special, take your choice, and choose wisely, if you want to be treated special, don't complain about lower pay, if you want to be equals, don't complain when guys talk to you like we talk to other guys...

What kind of incompetent fruitcake talks about sex while at work?

Believe me, I know some people that do stuff like that...

Heck, one of the websites I work at, we have a joke going about where the moderators are having a war on the forums in their signatures, saying to stay away from each other due to STDs...

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Your tagline made me laugh out loud.

Glad you liked it

If feminism were about equality, instead of what it actually is: misandry, it wouldn't even be called "feminism", it would be called "equalism" or something.

There is the feminist saying of "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." Most people think that's supposed to be empowering, but I think, what an incredibly hurtful thing to say! Telling someone they are completely useless and irrelevant, that's just... wow.

The biggest contribution feminism gives to society today is putting a huge chip on women's shoulders and setting them up to have a victim mentality.

I'm, well, amazed that anyone would come up with that reading. No wonder you don't know what misandry is, if you think merely not placing men at the center of the universe applies.

BlueMage has a point. No movement can really be successful if it is divisive or elitiist. The group it helped the most were single white women. They were the ones with the time to put into the movement.

I think it's helped women of all races. Sonia Sotomayor and Condoleeza Rice would not have risen to positions of power without it.

I didn't mean to imply that there wasn't some amount of success. The world needed the movement for sure. But it could have been handled better. too much media distortion. For instance, there never was a bra-burning.

And instead of us vs them, if it could have emphasized how it helps everyone. Just like the civil rights movement isn't only about helping minorities. *everyone* benefits when a society respects itself.

You right about everything,A house divided against it self is destined to fail.

I'm all for full equality. No more segregated drinking fountains and public restrooms.

I think that the Chinese under Mao had it right--everyone, regardless of gender, simply wears a green uniform.

No trying to show off how sexy you are.

I support gender equality but not feminism.


Feminism is nothing but an ideology that tries to achieve equality while maintaining or gaining special privileges due to their gender.

That is why it is disastrous.

A few simple examples:

Abortion rights: The man has no say. Period. Last I checked it was 50% of his DNA too. When legislation was tried to be passed that stated that if both parents wanted abortion it could be done, that if the mother wanted abortion and father did not then the mother would be obliged to bear the child and thereafter have no legal claim to the child (father is responsible)... and likewise when the mother wanted the child and the father did not. Legislation failed because of the 'woman choice' issue not due to the abortion.

Maternity Leave: The guy gets screwed as legally he doesn't receive time to be with his newborn child and wife. I believe some European countries do have this but not the USA.

Child Support: In most states the law will not prosecute women who fail to pay child support. However all states prosecute men who fail to pay child support.

Minority status: Women are legally held as minorities in the eyes of the law. Yet... they are 50% of the population.

Employment: By law companies must hire a certain % of minorities (the highest % being gender not ethnicity) which force companies to accept under-qualified female employees where there is a highly qualified male for the same position. Please note this is because of the MINORITY status and set laws.

...amongst others. The feminist movement in the 60's through the 80's pushed a lot of these laws and regulations into writing.. and when some are brought up to be amended it causes a media uproar where you have everything from Ellen to Oprah to the starbucks coffee waitress screaming to have their unequal privileges upheld while at the same time whining about gender inequality.

Its a crazy world ><

ROFL. Yet another dude terrified of not being specially protected against facing actual competition.