Rant....
hale_bopp wrote:
Please don't troll my posts, That's the sort of behaviour I would expect from an NT forum.
For the record, "learnt" is a correct word. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=learnt
I'm not stupid and will refused to be treated like I am.
Catffienated, please think about what I said.. I'd razz them up on AIM myself on your behalf but it really is none of my business.
For the record, "learnt" is a correct word. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=learnt
I'm not stupid and will refused to be treated like I am.
Catffienated, please think about what I said.. I'd razz them up on AIM myself on your behalf but it really is none of my business.
I never said you stupid nor did I intend to make that impression. Even I make typos, especially when I write fast. Sometimes though, I have an urge to correct them. I see them in newspapers a lot too. In school, grammatical correctness was impressed upon me.
Is troll some kind of slang? I have never heard it used they you used it before.
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I don't know if it was on purpose but it annoys the hell out of me taht someone can be so nit picky. NT's do it all the time and consider themselves superior to the one they're correcting.
Actually, I would say that a person with Asperger's Syndrome is quite a bit more likely to try correcting someone's grammar than a neurotypical person would be. I have two main reasons for this.
First, people with Asperger's Syndrome tend to care more about rules (including grammatical ones) and would be more likely to notice and care enough to point out grammatical discrepancies. Second, people with Asperger's Syndrome often have difficulty determining which behavior is appropriate in a given situation. Whereas the vast majority of neurotypical people would realize that correcting a person's grammar in an online forum is rude, some people with Asperger's Syndrome may not understand this.
JayShaw wrote:
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I don't know if it was on purpose but it annoys the hell out of me taht someone can be so nit picky. NT's do it all the time and consider themselves superior to the one they're correcting.
Actually, I would say that a person with Asperger's Syndrome is quite a bit more likely to try correcting someone's grammar than a neurotypical person would be. I have two main reasons for this.
First, people with Asperger's Syndrome tend to care more about rules (including grammatical ones) and would be more likely to notice and care enough to point out grammatical discrepancies. Second, people with Asperger's Syndrome often have difficulty determining which behavior is appropriate in a given situation. Whereas the vast majority of neurotypical people would realize that correcting a person's grammar in an online forum is rude, some people with Asperger's Syndrome may not understand this.
Thanks, Jay. She seems a little emotional for an Aspie. I don't understand why this upsets her. Did teachers upset you, Hale, when they corrected your mistakes? I am truly puzzled. Doesn't logic predominantly over rule emotions, at least in these situations, in Aspies?
I wouldn't say it always is the case, I myself have emotional regulation issues which I've heard from some isn't too uncommon. I am more emotional often when it affects me than when something usually happens to someone else. Logic is fine but what is logical to me, likely wouldn't seem so to everyone else which unfortunately leaves room for interpretation. And add in that women tend to be geared more towards emotions than men seem to be even though I find myself less competent in dealing with emotions and such than an NT female would perhaps.
Epimonandas wrote:
Thanks, Jay. She seems a little emotional for an Aspie. I don't understand why this upsets her. Did teachers upset you, Hale, when they corrected your mistakes? I am truly puzzled. Doesn't logic predominantly over rule emotions, at least in these situations, in Aspies?
I am not emotional, all I want to do is prove my point that it is rude.
You are not my teacher, they are typos, and I am already aware my typing co-ordination sucks, spelling isn't perfect but I find that rather unnessicary.If I make a punctuation or grammar mistake, it is a typo.
I am not upset either, you can percieve my posts how you wish though. I am not logical either, my life is an unordered mess. I am an artist live in chaos.
Doing things like that belittles peoples intelligence.
hale_bopp wrote:
Epimonandas wrote:
Thanks, Jay. She seems a little emotional for an Aspie. I don't understand why this upsets her. Did teachers upset you, Hale, when they corrected your mistakes? I am truly puzzled. Doesn't logic predominantly over rule emotions, at least in these situations, in Aspies?
I am not emotional, all I want to do is prove my point that it is rude.
You are not my teacher, they are typos, and I am already aware my typing co-ordination sucks, spelling isn't perfect but I find that rather unnessicary.If I make a punctuation or grammar mistake, it is a typo.
I am not upset either, you can percieve my posts how you wish though. I am not logical either, my life is an unordered mess. I am an artist live in chaos.
Doing things like that belittles peoples intelligence.
Perhaps you see rude, but I do not. And even if I think logically sometimes, does not mean I do not have artistic ability either nor chaos. I am disorganized too, and one of my first interests was and still is art. Emotions do not come into play, at least unless I see some kind of harm as intentional. I have already told you that was not my intention. Why do you appear to insist that it is rude and that I belittle you? I was also not even singling you out. You just had a few and I used that as an example that it happens alot, not just on this forum. I thought I was helping to correct mistakes. Yours was just the first one I happened to find more than one or two mistakes on, but I have seen them in more. I will claim perfection in this regard either, though I try, that is what the edit function is for. If see mistakes on rereading my posts, then I correct them. Why do you react that way? And if you are not upset, why do say it is rude and belittling as if it were common knowledge? Isn't that part of the point for the existence of this forum?
PS JayShaw, I think you are right about the urge to correct. I generally don't talk to alot of people let alone see their writing. I don't if this is an something I developed naturally though, or it was over drilled into by the strictness of the school system. I even occassionally have this need in spoken language and correct even relatives. Its not just the written language. And aside from an interest in writing, I don't even consider grammatical correctness or English as a subject of personal interest. It is as drilled into me as brushing my teeth after every meal or eating 3 meals day or trying to sleep the human required 8 hours a night or rules of traffic. It almost seems worse to me about following rules and procedures when it is not a subject of interest for fear of making a mistake and thus looking like I have no clue in these other matters.
Does that sound like a good and possibly correct analysis of the situation?
JayShaw wrote:
Actually, I would say that a person with Asperger's Syndrome is quite a bit more likely to try correcting someone's grammar than a neurotypical person would be.
from everything i've researched/heard, i agree, Jay.
epimonandas - it's a fact of life that we are all different, and, very often, we say something we think is utterly innocent (to us) and watch in amazement as someone else goes into meltdown in response to it (and no, hale bopp - i'm not suggesting you've gone into meltdown). that's just the way it is - we don't always have control over HOW our words are heard, and have hardly any control on how people react/respond to them: unless we know that person very well, of course, in which case, we may be able to predict their response with more accuracy.
many, many people get irritated when they are corrected, for whatever reason. it's because i know this that i don't correct grammar/syntax/typos/spellings here (and they drive me just as mad as you, epimonandas!).
and having AS does absolutely NOT mean having no emotions. it's an accusation levelled against women all the time (and men, sometimes): "oh, she's being emotional (or, often, hysterical), instead of logical", this being a way of dismissing responses.
you don't understand WHY it upsets hale bopp, epimonandas - that's okay. let's face it, other people are often a mystery, to NTs as well as aspies! but you don't have to understand why, just know that hale bopp DOES feel that way. and then accept it, whether you agree with it or not.
hark at me - Vivi the counsellor. (i do this sort of thing for a living, btw). hope i haven't sounded patronising - it was not my intent to sound so.
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