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06 Apr 2010, 1:01 pm

To follow up on Hale_Bopp's point, there is a school of thought that believes friendships with the opposite sex are something to be shared by a couple - rather than pursued individually by each partner. The idea is to not put oneself in a position to develop inappropriate emotional attachments to a member of the opposite sex, a.k.a., having an "emotional affair." An emotional affair may lead to a sexual affair, but even if it doesn't, it has the potential to weaken the couples' own emotional bond, and damage their relationship.

Does every friendship with a member of the opposite sex present this "temptation?" No. But that's the tricky part....you don't always know if/when a harmless friendship will develop into something deeper. So the question you might ask yourself of a friendship with a person of the opposite sex is whether it has the potential to weaken your primary relationship. If it does, pursuing that friendship is probably not in the best interest of your partner. However....it's a complicated issue, that typically can be approached in a lot of different ways.

But keep in mind the situation I'm describing is not one in which one partner demands the other partner cut off all contact with members of the opposite sex - that can definitely be a sign of abusive and controlling behavior. Instead, I'm referring to a decision that couples come to together, that's acceptable to both partners.


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06 Apr 2010, 2:49 pm

I think I understand what you're saying, HopeGrows. There are many valid reasons why somebody would have problems with their partner's opposite sex friends, but they are specific, related to that individual's behaviour. (Keeping a friend around as a "safety net", someone waiting around for relationship troubles or even trying to create them in order to make a move, a friend disliking your partner and acting rude towards them and so on. I've seen plenty such cases and I wouldn't ask anybody to put up with it). But it's strange to reject someone based solely on their gender without giving them a chance and assuming from the start they endanger your relationship.

I'm a bit disturbed by people who think a man and a woman can't be just friends, without anything sexual or romantic waiting to happen (I don't mean you, Hope). I've been best friends with this guy for 15 years and see it as extremely improbable to suddenly develop any romantic feelings for him. We've been through a lot together and he never created any problems - he was always very nice and polite with my husband and in time they developed a great friendship of their own. It would really seem extremely unfair and cruel if someone would ask me to cut all contact just because he's a man. :?


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06 Apr 2010, 6:55 pm

It's like one minute, they turn to you for advice. But once they start dating someone, suddenly any attempt to contact them is considered stalking, even if that wasn't your intent. And oftentimes, you get no warning.

Not chatting as much with said friends as when single, that I can understand. But having a partner doesn't have to mean sidelining everyone else.


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29 Apr 2010, 2:10 pm

I had a very good friend, and she was very open and friendly, and told me everything. But when she found someone else, she cut contact, blocked me from IM, and stopped replying to my e-mails.

At the beginning of the correspondence, she promised that she would "never disappear without a reason".

Eventually, I had a friend talk to her because I was concerned, and wouldn't answer me directly. Instead of treating me like a concerned friend, she treated me as if I was an abusive ex-partner, going to the point of threatening legal action if she saw me in person and not by "pure complete chance".

I don't have her address, and I was over 100 miles away, so how would any encounter not be by chance?


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29 Apr 2010, 10:28 pm

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Why do some people block all their friends who are the opposite gender of them when they get into a relationship?

I remember my ex tried to get me to stop talking to all my male friends online except for the ones who have AS. I have also heard of some people making their partners stop talking to their friends who are the opposite gender. I think it's a very selfish and very inconsiderate. I would never do that to my husband and thank goodness he doesn't do it to me. I am allowed to attend my autism groups and have friends online and allowed to meet anyone from online.


I don't think it's very healthy at all if that person makes it feel like you should only be around them. A bad sign. It's a good sign in relationship if you give each other space. That's important, because if you are around each other all the time, it doesn't allow him to break away from you a little bit then bounce back towards you with more feelings than the last time. This way, you can continue to be receptive and open towards your sig other. If a sig other does NOT support your endeavors like going to support groups, and with interests and such, that person should not be around you.


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30 Apr 2010, 2:02 am

i don't befriend guys and my boyfriend dosent befriend girls. it took me awhile to see his logic on this but after all my "friends" started hitting on me i relized he was right. guys and girls cant be friends it just dosent work.

I even had a gay guy (or a guy who told me he was gay) try and kiss me in collage. i was very angry at him because he had been fooling me for years. and i though it was quite manipulative to pretend to be gay like that. i even tried to help him come out of the closet in high school. he had been fooling me for years. or he realized he was bi. either was he shouldn't have done that.

so long story short it is the mutual rule in our relationship to not befriend the opposite sex and i am quite comfortable with it. i like it better this way (less drama). my parents have lots of friends of the opposite sex but i suspect my dad has affairs. so it is not a very good example.



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30 Apr 2010, 2:13 am

just-me wrote:
i don't befriend guys and my boyfriend dosent befriend girls. it took me awhile to see his logic on this but after all my "friends" started hitting on me i relized he was right. guys and girls cant be friends it just dosent work.


If these guys hit on you, it might not be a good idea to befriend those particular people. Were they still hitting on you even after you mentioned being in a relationship?


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30 Apr 2010, 2:56 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
just-me wrote:
i don't befriend guys and my boyfriend dosent befriend girls. it took me awhile to see his logic on this but after all my "friends" started hitting on me i relized he was right. guys and girls cant be friends it just dosent work.


If these guys hit on you, it might not be a good idea to befriend those particular people. Were they still hitting on you even after you mentioned being in a relationship?


Yes they still hit on me after I mentioned I was in a relationship. I even had that problem a few times here on wp. That's why I have it listed in my signature that i have a bf and not to hit on me. it happened so much and that's the only thing that stopped guys from pm me under false pretenses.

I don't know why people do it but they do.



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30 Apr 2010, 3:06 am

just-me wrote:
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just-me wrote:
i don't befriend guys and my boyfriend dosent befriend girls. it took me awhile to see his logic on this but after all my "friends" started hitting on me i relized he was right. guys and girls cant be friends it just dosent work.


If these guys hit on you, it might not be a good idea to befriend those particular people. Were they still hitting on you even after you mentioned being in a relationship?


Yes they still hit on me after I mentioned I was in a relationship. I even had that problem a few times here on wp. That's why I have it listed in my signature that i have a bf and not to hit on me. it happened so much and that's the only thing that stopped guys from pm me under false pretenses.

I don't know why people do it but they do.


If that's the case, then you probably should cut contact.


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30 Apr 2010, 3:53 am

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My boyfriend is friends with girls and that's fine, and I'm friends with guys and he's fine with that too. We trust eachother not to cheat. If I feel like I'm getting too close to a friend I step back a bit. I trust my boyfriend to do the same. If he decides that he'd rather be with one of his friends then we shouldn't be together anyway.


That's the way it should be... unfortunately, jealousy tends to get in the way. The comedian Christopher Titus once called jealousy "the Auschwitz of emotions"...

I haven't seen any other way in action, so I presuppose that it's the way it should be.

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30 Apr 2010, 4:19 am

Suffice to say, I have a good friend, and she's a married woman. Her son has autism. She lives A STREET AWAY from me yet I have not seen her in about a year, because of her husband.



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03 May 2010, 8:23 pm

I think insecurity or a jealous/controlling partner is the most likely reason.


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05 May 2010, 9:27 am

HopeGrows wrote:
To follow up on Hale_Bopp's point, there is a school of thought that believes friendships with the opposite sex are something to be shared by a couple - rather than pursued individually by each partner. The idea is to not put oneself in a position to develop inappropriate emotional attachments to a member of the opposite sex, a.k.a., having an "emotional affair." An emotional affair may lead to a sexual affair, but even if it doesn't, it has the potential to weaken the couples' own emotional bond, and damage their relationship.

Does every friendship with a member of the opposite sex present this "temptation?" No. But that's the tricky part....you don't always know if/when a harmless friendship will develop into something deeper. So the question you might ask yourself of a friendship with a person of the opposite sex is whether it has the potential to weaken your primary relationship. If it does, pursuing that friendship is probably not in the best interest of your partner. However....it's a complicated issue, that typically can be approached in a lot of different ways.

But keep in mind the situation I'm describing is not one in which one partner demands the other partner cut off all contact with members of the opposite sex - that can definitely be a sign of abusive and controlling behavior. Instead, I'm referring to a decision that couples come to together, that's acceptable to both partners.


This is how I feel about this topic. My answer on another thread was for the couple to be together when with a single friend. But a friend of mine became extremely upset about what I had written. So I deleted my answer. And what if the couple are both bisexual? Would they only see their friends together as a couple? What is the best solution for that situation? What if one part of the couple has had trust issues in their past so they're having a difficult time learning to trust their partner in this new relationship, how can they learn to trust again? How can you help them to build trust in you?



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07 May 2010, 9:05 am

I always thought that was weird too. Just because a man and a woman are friends, doesn't ALWAYS mean they'll get 2gether eventually.



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07 May 2010, 9:46 am

luckily i have no friends so it's not an issue!



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10 May 2010, 3:55 pm

I echo that: saintetienne

For Sure;
Geeze, for AS'ers we need all the friends we can get.

STAT:
if your significant other demands you not see an individual well that is an even trade, but if they demand 2, 3! now their friend ship is in jepordy because I need more friends than I do lover.

I have 1 friend that keeps a good tab on my overall well being, and sinceerely trys to help.

PLEA to all CONTROLers
HOW could any of us afford to loose even one friend...