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13 Jul 2010, 2:49 am

I dont know.



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13 Jul 2010, 9:03 am

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Hate all you want, but shy wussy guys don't get women, guys like myself do.


Yeah, shy wussy guys who fall off bicycles at 20+mph going through a turn on gravel and stand up and laugh about it. Girls don't like them. :roll:
Tough guys who talk sh** on the internet about how tough they are and how they are living oxymorons get all the girls


Relax, buddy. Stop being defensive. Lashing out isn't going to get you where you need to be.


No, but it does get me the satisfaction of beating a wuss behind a computer screen at his own game after I get home from a good night of Z31 restoration.


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13 Jul 2010, 9:16 am

I fail to see the point of the threads foreveryoung makes in this section.



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13 Jul 2010, 10:09 am

Pistonhead wrote:
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Hate all you want, but shy wussy guys don't get women, guys like myself do.


Yeah, shy wussy guys who fall off bicycles at 20+mph going through a turn on gravel and stand up and laugh about it. Girls don't like them. :roll:
Tough guys who talk sh** on the internet about how tough they are and how they are living oxymorons get all the girls


Relax, buddy. Stop being defensive. Lashing out isn't going to get you where you need to be.


No, but it does get me the satisfaction of beating a wuss behind a computer screen at his own game after I get home from a good night of Z31 restoration.


Your bitterness toward women and the men that get them shows in your threads. I'd suggest professional help.



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13 Jul 2010, 10:18 am

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Shy/clueless/boring is pretty much the equivalent of Oprah to guys..

The f**k?

Oprah would be a pretty big catch. She's only worth how much?


I don't care how much money she makes. I'm not a gold-digger. She's an ugly cow and annoying.



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13 Jul 2010, 10:23 am

We are all equal - shy or not, introvert or extrovert, there is NO competition - competition is a grand illusion further implemented by some ridiculous media trying to create its own world.

Let us feel we are equal, ladies and gentlemen.


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13 Jul 2010, 11:30 am

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I fail to see the point of the threads foreveryoung makes in this section.

I second that :lol:


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13 Jul 2010, 12:19 pm

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I fail to see the point of the threads foreveryoung makes in this section.


I've been thinking that for a while as well. Most likely he gets some sort of self validation by sharing with everyone what he seems to think of as "profound truths."


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13 Jul 2010, 12:29 pm

My threads are in response to the "Wah Wah why don't I have a girlfriend?" threads that take up a good 60 percent of the love and dating section.

The point of my threads is that you aren't entitled to a girlfriend, and that if you were less of a pushover and also happy with your life, you probably wouldn't want one as much to begin with.

If I sound harsh in my posts, it's because being "nice" and coddling boys like yourself doesn't work.

To those of you who don't make the "Will I ever find a girlfriend?" posts, I apologize, but a lot of you do make those posts.



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13 Jul 2010, 12:49 pm

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If I sound harsh in my posts, it's because being "nice" and coddling boys like yourself doesn't work.


Who is that supposed to be addressed to junior?

People with low self esteem aren't going to respond well to being put down and told what to do. That doesn't mean you have to coddle them, but there are ways to go about it without coming off as an ass. A better way to go about it, if your true intention is to be helpful, would be to try to be motivating. If your methods work so well, as you claim, then give them some real life examples. That would be a great deal more effective than saying "this works because I say so, go do it."

Why do you think commercial products are so keen on real customer testimonials? Because, just saying "this works, get it" isn't very convincing, but if you see other people who have used a product, or in this case approach, and found it effective then people are more likely to try it out themselves.


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13 Jul 2010, 1:03 pm

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My threads are in response to the "Wah Wah why don't I have a girlfriend?" threads that take up a good 60 percent of the love and dating section.

The point of my threads is that you aren't entitled to a girlfriend, and that if you were less of a pushover and also happy with your life, you probably wouldn't want one as much to begin with.

If I sound harsh in my posts, it's because being "nice" and coddling boys like yourself doesn't work.

To those of you who don't make the "Will I ever find a girlfriend?" posts, I apologize, but a lot of you do make those posts.


This whole "You're not entitled to a girlfriend" comment really pi$$es me off. It's like people who have it easy in dating feel like those who don't have a sense of self-entitlement that they lack. It's obvious to me that you have a sense of entitlement too, and I'm sure if you had trouble with dating, you would be whining and bit¢hing about it too, just like you're whining and bit¢hing now about other people not being as much of a "stud" as you. Romantic love is a basic emotional need for most people, one that "studs" like you take for granted. Do people from loving families lord over people who come from dysfunctional families? I don't think so. Why should it be that way with romantic love?

I would like to say something for myself. I think you're taking a popular stereotype (Nice Guys) and projecting it onto anyone who happens to be shy or have emotional or self-esteem issues. Contrary to popular belief, there are very, very few people who fit this stereotype exactly, or even well, just like there are very few black people who are monosyllabic, gold chain-wearing, drug dealing, fat woman-chasing, unemployed criminals like the stereotype suggests.

I am shy, lonely, and suffer from depression, and thus have sometimes been labeled as a Nice Guy, despite never claiming to be one (one of the stereotypes of Nice Guys is that they're self-proclaimed). I have often been a pushover in that I am naive and have trouble assessing someone's true intentions. This is not because I'm a Nice Guy; it's because I'm an aspie and I'm not good at reading social cues. I am not happy with my life, not because I don't have a girlfriend (frankly I don't really want one right now), but because I am struggling with school and my job, have no driver's license, and still live with my parents, and my life seems to be going nowhere.

I don't think you are any different from the shy, wussy pushovers that you patronize, other than that you had some initial success at relationships, and this boosted your happiness and confidence. Also, you have to realize that most of the people who make these threads that you speak of are younger than you, still struggling with other things in their lives, and they probably haven't had a chance to do the things you're telling them to do. Think about that before you make such bigoted statements.


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13 Jul 2010, 4:00 pm

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I fail to see the point of the threads foreveryoung makes in this section.


foreveryoung reminds me of some little kid who goes around the neighborhood on his birthday chanting "Hey evwyvody! I'm four! I'm four!" Only he's 26, but he's still doing basically the same thing: announcing to the world that he has something he thinks they don't because it makes him feel better about himself, and at the same time grossly overestimating the degree to which anyone actually gives a $hit. What he is doing is lording over people who have a disadvantage (one they can't really control) and telling them they should be more like him.

Every thread he makes seems to be a proclamation of how bad@$$ he is, rather than actually saying something. I'm guessing he has some major flaw or failing in his life that he has to compensate for; otherwise he wouldn't feel the need to do this. Maybe he has no job. Maybe he's a college dropout. Maybe all the girls he brags about are fat, pimple-faced meth-heads. Whatever it is, he seems to be very insecure, and the internet is the only outlet where he can give the impression that he has any sort of control over his life. I don't know him personally, so I can't say this for sure, but that's certainly what it sounds like.


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13 Jul 2010, 4:05 pm

Actually, no Lord of the Chimps, I'm quite happy with my life unlike most of the guys on this site...and I got that way through hard-work. If I have any fault, it's that I see the old me in many of the guys on here, and want to save them years of running in circles.

Also, to Variant...I posted pics of myself with two model-like women that I met on vacation (through a cold approach) and everyone harped on me out of jealousy.



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13 Jul 2010, 4:19 pm

Bitter, unsuccessful, depressed guys don't want to hear success stories, even if they are well-intentioned. I lost a couple friends last year after meeting my hot ex, one who tried to sabotage things by making up stories about me (unfortunately for him, she already knew full well about him) and another that unsuccessfully tried to hit on her behind my back. People are jealous of those who are successful. Hopefully you guys will find this out someday for yourself.

In the meantime, ask any NT woman on this site, there's nothing they hate more than a bitter guy...a guy who gets mad that he's not the one getting girls, and thinks other guys must be jerks because they get them.

My intent is to prove that you can go from worst to first. I've been told I'm good looking by some women, but more often, I hear "you aren't/weren't initially the type I go for, but you won me over with your personality." This whole "I'm a victim shy/depressed guy in a world full of pricks" mentality isn't going to get you Rosie O Donnell, let alone what ever woman you fantasize about. Women like guys that like life and themselves and don't blame it on "the system."



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13 Jul 2010, 4:27 pm

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Actually, no Lord of the Chimps, I'm quite happy with my life unlike most of the guys on this site...and I got that way through hard-work. If I have any fault, it's that I see the old me in many of the guys on here, and want to save them years of running in circles.

Also, to Variant...I posted pics of myself with two model-like women that I met on vacation (through a cold approach) and everyone harped on me out of jealousy.


Yeah, and here's a picture of me with my girlfriend:

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Here's my private yacht:

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Here's my Mercedes Benz:

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I can go on.


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13 Jul 2010, 4:33 pm

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I see the old me in many of the guys on here, and want to save them years of running in circles.


I know what you mean. I was in the same position as many of the guys here several years back, so I feel for them and remember what it was like. I just think your approach needs some work.

I'm engaged presently, living with my fiancee, and will be married before the end of the year.

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Also, to Variant...I posted pics of myself with two model-like women that I met on vacation (through a cold approach) and everyone harped on me out of jealousy.


Okay, and? I've not seen the picture so I can't comment on it. That really doesn't have anything to do with what I said in my previous post though. Even so I really don't see the point of jealousy, it is a waste of time.


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