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20 Oct 2010, 11:13 pm

I don't even know why people treat Muslims as if all of them actually practiced their religion and knew everything about the Qur'an. There are as many MINOs as there are CINOs. Some people claim to be of a certain religion for reasons that have nothing to do with their actual beliefs.

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The only piece of clothing I'm most familiar with really is the [hijab]. :shrug:



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21 Oct 2010, 1:13 am

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I know this girl, she's sweet and personable, and I'm not sure if she's into me, but we're comfortable enough to where I think it's not unreasonable to ask for a date. No harm in asking, right? She's muslim- she wears the burka. Can someone tell me whether it's taboo to date outside their religion? Are there any muslims here that could tell me how her family might react?


I'm not muslim, but religious muslims generally do not date outside of their religion, and if her family is also religious, they would probably very strongly object to her dating a non-muslim.



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21 Oct 2010, 2:54 pm

Chronos wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
I know this girl, she's sweet and personable, and I'm not sure if she's into me, but we're comfortable enough to where I think it's not unreasonable to ask for a date. No harm in asking, right? She's muslim- she wears the burka. Can someone tell me whether it's taboo to date outside their religion? Are there any muslims here that could tell me how her family might react?


I'm not muslim, but religious muslims generally do not date outside of their religion, and if her family is also religious, they would probably very strongly object to her dating a non-muslim.


Actually, Muslim men are allowed to marry Christian or Jewish women, from what I've heard. It's just the Muslim women who aren't supposed to date outside their religion.



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21 Oct 2010, 4:09 pm

From most extreme to least extreme.

burqa = the outfit that covers literally everything , from head to toe , including the face and eyes. Comes in different colors - mostly used in Afghanistan under Taliban areas.

niqab = literally , the niqab means the piece of cloth that covers nose and the mouth (yea ,like the ninjas) but it's commonly referred to the whole outfit , which is a black outfit that covers everything except the eyes. Used in the Gulf. Usually in black.

chador = like the burqa , but it shows the whole face. Most commonly used in Iran and among the 'Hezbollahian' Shiite community of Lebanon. Always in black.

hijab = the veil that just covers the hear. All colors possible.

safira = the adjective given to the non-veiled adult girl

lebs raqs = the best of them all, the outfit of the belly dancer! ......wait ...that's out of the Islamic scope.



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21 Oct 2010, 4:12 pm

happymusic wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Are there any muslims here that could tell me how her family might react?


I am not the best Muslim since I am culturally-Muslim atheist , but I might be the closest candidate here.

If she's really wearing a burqa then her parents would react the same way of KKK parents would react to a black guy trying to ask their daughter out.

If it's hijab , it would still be quasi-impossible to accept him unless he commits to convert.


and oh , if the veiled girl wears full make-up tight full-ass-showing jeans and pink tight tops that doesn't mean that she or her family are tolerant toward other religions and would accept marrying them. Heck, even if she doesn't wear any hijab would not necessarily means that ,too.

Sometimes, the only difference between a fundie in burqa and a fundie with no kind of veil is just the outer appearance , it's so common that both types have the same rotten inner side.

Boo! I never even saw that you were in Beirut. :) One of my favorite students (yes teachers definitely have favorites :P) was from Lebanon. His Arabic was so beautiful. I think I prefer it over the Egyptian Arabic I hear a lot at work.


and that makes me cool? :shrug:



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21 Oct 2010, 5:29 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

and that makes me cool? :shrug:


Ja.

I could listen to the Lebanese here speak for hours. It's very pretty.



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21 Oct 2010, 5:41 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
happymusic wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Are there any muslims here that could tell me how her family might react?


I am not the best Muslim since I am culturally-Muslim atheist , but I might be the closest candidate here.

If she's really wearing a burqa then her parents would react the same way of KKK parents would react to a black guy trying to ask their daughter out.

If it's hijab , it would still be quasi-impossible to accept him unless he commits to convert.


and oh , if the veiled girl wears full make-up tight full-ass-showing jeans and pink tight tops that doesn't mean that she or her family are tolerant toward other religions and would accept marrying them. Heck, even if she doesn't wear any hijab would not necessarily means that ,too.

Sometimes, the only difference between a fundie in burqa and a fundie with no kind of veil is just the outer appearance , it's so common that both types have the same rotten inner side.

Boo! I never even saw that you were in Beirut. :) One of my favorite students (yes teachers definitely have favorites :P) was from Lebanon. His Arabic was so beautiful. I think I prefer it over the Egyptian Arabic I hear a lot at work.


and that makes me cool? :shrug:


The nightmarish avatar and never-ending supply of appropriate captioned pictures makes you cool. :D But it definately makes you the authority in this thread.



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21 Oct 2010, 6:43 pm

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The nightmarish avatar and never-ending supply of appropriate captioned pictures makes you cool. :D But it definately makes you the authority in this thread.


*nods in agreement*

You're cool. You can't fight it. :)



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21 Oct 2010, 6:59 pm

I would imagine if she was very family oriented, she may take issue with dating outside of her religion.

However, if she is more independent-thinking, I would say you may have a shot.


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21 Oct 2010, 7:02 pm

You don't stand a chance mate.

And i know what i'm saying, my family is muslim and i'm an atheist/ or do believe god exists, just don't like god/hate god, so i'm not into any religion. But i sure as hell do know how this is gonna work out.

And it's not gonna work out well for ya.

Muslims want their daughters to be married to another muslim, usually of the same country as them.
Not necessarily arranged marriage, but that she picks someone from where the family things is best for her.

A person like you, they would see you as an outsider, someone who dosn't believe in their god so you are doomed to go to hell in their eyes anyway and etc. I mean, forget it, seriously, you could be in for a world full of hurt if you two date and her parents don't like it = /



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21 Oct 2010, 8:13 pm

happymusic wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

and that makes me cool? :shrug:


Ja.

I could listen to the Lebanese here speak for hours. It's very pretty.


Yes even women like foreign men.. *gasp*


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21 Oct 2010, 8:33 pm

Just say "Oi! Tent-wearer! Fancy a shag?"


Or not. ;)



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22 Oct 2010, 12:06 pm

When I saw just the thread title I thought of writing this"First get her out of her burka". I did not know at that time that she wears one. I live in a country where there are 15-20% muslims. Their religion teaches hatred towards infidels and history, particularly Indian, is witness to that. Forget it, you already have asperger's and you should not want to have more trouble :).
What you can do is teach non-muslims girls/women not to marry muslims men and thereby contribute to their pan-islamic agenda which is to take over the world.
One of their ways is Love Jihad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Jihad
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6389.html



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22 Oct 2010, 12:08 pm

Tias wrote:
You don't stand a chance mate.

And i know what i'm saying, my family is muslim and i'm an atheist/ or do believe god exists, just don't like god/hate god, so i'm not into any religion. But i sure as hell do know how this is gonna work out.

And it's not gonna work out well for ya.

Muslims want their daughters to be married to another muslim, usually of the same country as them.
Not necessarily arranged marriage, but that she picks someone from where the family things is best for her.

A person like you, they would see you as an outsider, someone who dosn't believe in their god so you are doomed to go to hell in their eyes anyway and etc. I mean, forget it, seriously, you could be in for a world full of hurt if you two date and her parents don't like it = /


Muslim Danish? What's your real origin?



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22 Oct 2010, 12:10 pm

happymusic wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

and that makes me cool? :shrug:


Ja.

I could listen to the Lebanese here speak for hours. It's very pretty.


and do you understand any Arabic?



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22 Oct 2010, 4:54 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
happymusic wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

and that makes me cool? :shrug:


Ja.

I could listen to the Lebanese here speak for hours. It's very pretty.


and do you understand any Arabic?


The heart shaped bubbles bursting around me tell me all I need to know. hehehehe

No, seriously, I only know one word - habib (sp?). Though about a month ago I felt an urge to learn it because I met some teenagers from Iraq who on the first day of school were completely confused. They'd only been in the US for 6 weeks. This one girl couldn't even read her schedule and her interpreter had wandered off. Only an hour into the day she'd clearly become overwhelmed and just sat down in the hall. She looked so pitiful. So I took care of her, her brother and their friend and tried to help them as best as I could. Word must have gotten around because now, even other Arabic speaking kids I don't know always say "hello miss" when they see me. Her brother was so kind to her - between each class he'd go get her from hers and help her get to her next one because he could read English. They melt my heart. I love them. I want to protect them from the difficulties I know they are encountering at the school and out in public.