A comment on the "who has it worse" question...

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I say that shemale aspies have it worse ..... have to take s**t from both genders.

Well said.

are you seriously counting how many men are complaining on here about being single? considering that there are something like 5 to 10 times as many male aspies compared to females... it makes perfect sense that most of the people complaining about never having a relationship would be male! it doesn't make the situation harder for men - it just means that there would literally be more single men than women on WP.

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can someone please explain to me why some men need to be so competitive... men and women struggle equally, but maybe in different ways. i don't understand why so many men on WP have to turn it into a contest.

No one can talk about this topic rationally it's pointless. You'd actually have to do a study and get the mathematical statistics to find out who has it worse, I'd bet on men easily, since Aspie men commit suicide over not being able to find a partner on a much more frequent basis, and I suspect it is very rare for women to do so. Since they have access to warm bodies if they want it, it's only a woman's prejudice and lack of persistence that keeps her out of relationship.

Mathematically more death is worse IMHO.

mathematically? there's nothing mathematical about your random assertions.

can you provide some kind of actual evidence or are you making stuff up?

I'm not making stuff up there is evidence in the literature that this is the case. This is why I said the people on this forum can not talk about this rationally. (Attwood, 2006, p. 14). The suicide rate in people with Asperger’s is higher than that of the neurotypical population.

there is no evidence that more aspie men than women commit suicide, so your claim is completely unfounded.

also, if we accept your assertion that it is women's own fault they are not successful in relationships, then it is also true for men. i guess it is just men's prejudice and lack of persistence that keeps them out of relationships.

Lol, hi Boo. I love how I'm brought up in these kinds of threads without having made a post in it first. Oh internet gossip, lol. Do I feel bad for Toad? Yes. However I felt like it wouldn't work out due to distance and I just didn't feel a connection with him. I wasn't going to act like I did have feelings when I didn't. That would be far too cruel. D:

As for the OP, I'm exhausted with this kind of discussion. Let's talk about something happy!

YAY HAPPY THINGS.

In making this comparison, you are assuming implicitly that both sexes have the same range of options open to them. Which is highly mistaken, in my observation, and the observations of many people I know. I encourage you, if you really dispute this, to ask all the men and women you know whether they could get a warm body of the opposite sex to sleep with, just any, not one of a person who they see themselves having a long-term relationship with, not one that's in the top 10% of attractiveness, just anyone. And report back.



It's not your thread. If you don't like it, please leave and start your own. I am NOT changing the subject of this one.

The problem is that there is a fundamental difference between male and females in what they find important. Biologically speaking women are more inclined towards finding one individual person they can rely on, to support them and their children, whereas men are more inclined to increase their chances of reproducing, so the more sexual partners the better... this helps explain a guys need for sexual release and a woman's need for emotional connection. This is NOT everyone, its generalizations. Its not saying women don't have a sex drive, or men can't be emotionally invested in anything, its just saying that biologically it is generally this way. ( http://www.scar.utoronto.ca/~psya01/YES ... ssign2.pdf as a source for some of this... )

here is an interesting point:

So, with something that dramatically different between the genders, you cannot honestly expect to judge based on one criteria alone.

Sure, you can say that women can walk into a bar and get sex whenever she wants, but much much harder for a guy to do the same... but thats not exactly the issue. Many women are NOT inclined to do that. Women don't just want casual sex, they need something more. Its as biological as it is social.

So yes, it is foolish to try to quantify who "has it worse." There are key differences being played... and yes, these differences are what causes such an issue. If women were just as interested in casual sex, then they'd be accepting a lot more of the random guys who hit on them, in turn making more of those random guys who hit on random women getting laid more. But that's not how it is, most women want an actual relationship, and look for a quality guy for it, not just any person who thinks they're hot.

so sex is really the problem? and it's driving men to suicide?

really?

then hire a prostitute. you can't expect women to take the blame for this, and consent to being your vessels.

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Not really.

There are needs beyond sex that a relationship can fulfill .

If it was just about sex, guys would do what you suggested and you wouldn't hear them venting and whining here.

your point makes no sense at all. it's been said again and again that women have trouble getting what they want, just like men have trouble getting what they want. it is hard for both sexes.

let's flip it - if more women wanted random sex with strangers, it could be easier for them than men. AND if more men wanted stable LTR, it could be easier for them than women. both sexes find it hard.

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Yaaaaay indeed!

Biostructure - No need to be rude about it. I'm just stating that these men vs women wars in this forum are so overplayed. There are plenty of threads that you can search through for these kinds of topics. Threads like these only serve to start flame wars, there is no positive outcome for these kinds of discussions. Just saying. :/