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26 Nov 2010, 5:48 am

Thanks for the advice everyone. Interesting stuff.

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Fingers crossed I can at least be friends with her, hopefully more...


I believe this is what people mean when they say, "You're not trying to be her friend, you're trying to be in her friend zone."


I still don't get this friendzone nonsense...I want to be her friend. Being her friend is my primary concern as far as she is concerned. If a relationship develops, great. If it doesn't then that doesn't matter in the slightest because I'll have made a new friend. I'm not interested in becoming her friend so that I can go out with her. I'm interested in becoming her friend so that I can be her friend.



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26 Nov 2010, 6:38 am

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Are AS women really all that different than NT women?

I think we are quite different from NT women, yes. I am, anyway. From what I've seen on this forum, I don't think my temperament is representative of Aspie women, though, so you may be right--maybe everything I have to say is irrelevant. But, as I can only speak for myself, I will continue to address the topic in that fashion.

How am I different from NT women? I am far less prone to over-emotionalism and misunderstandings based on emotional reactions. I do not need to be coddled like most women do (regular affirmations of how beautiful I am, for example). I am not prone to gossip or drama. I do not talk nearly as much as they do, and when in a conversation, I am not simply waiting my turn to speak. I do not play "games" with relationships. I do not expect men to psychically know what I want/how I feel/etc. I will never try to make a man watch a chick flick. I could go on and on, but will restrain myself. I don't mean to say that any of the above describes all NT women, only that it describes a majority of them in comparison to myself. I have been told that I am remarkably "low-maintenance" and easy to get along with in comparison to other women.

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They are likely more difficult to get to know and find some common interest to talk about unless you are already there doing the same thing.

Why? I don't see any reason it should be more difficult to find a common interest with an Aspie woman than an NT woman. In fact, I'd think it would be easier in a lot of cases, since Aspie women tend to have more stereotypically masculine interests, such as science or gaming, and are less likely to be interested in stereotypically feminine things such as fashion. As for getting to know us, I think it is easier to get to know my personality than it is most people's because I am very much myself and never some idealized version of me (I hear most people do this on dates in order to make themselves seem more likable). However, personal details will take you longer to get from me, yes.

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I would think it would be more difficult for an AS man to get together with an AS woman tbh out in the real world.... And since a NT guy is going to find it easier to approach and make a connection with a AS girl, I think the odds are weighed more heavily towards that guy getting the girl.

Talking with someone and making a connection with them are not synonymous. I find I am better able to relate to Aspie men than NT men (or NT women) because we tend to have similar ways of perceiving the world, similar life experiences, similar interests, etc.

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Some NT girls think your awkwardness and eccentricities are attractive. Helping you through your difficult moments feeds into the whole female nurturing thing and likely strengthens the relationship.

Some Aspie girls think so as well. We can be capable of being nurturing and helping people through difficult moments, too--this is not solely NT territory. In some cases, we may be better suited to helping you with problems if they are ones we have faced as well. Of course, I'm sure there are also difficulties which NTs might be better able to help with. The difference is that the Aspie is more likely to understand your quirks (as opposed to simply knowing about them) and is probably less likely to think that they are in need of "fixing."

Ah, how I carry on. Apologies. I tried to be concise. :oops:


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26 Nov 2010, 9:39 am

As an AS woman who's had her heart broken by another AS person, if you're going to date an AS woman understand that at least some of us need reasons why you're ending it spelled out for us or it's HORRIBLE for us. I can't stop obsessing and I can't let go because I don't fully understand what happened, and he won't talk to me. If I could only understand better I think I could at least come to terms with it and move on, which I desperately want to do. I still wouldn't be happy about not having any discussion or input and having the breakup be SO unilateral, but at least I could understand the reasons and deal with them. I do have some idea as to the reasons, but I have so many questions unanswered and they really do eat at me.

So, if you do get into a relationship with an AS woman, and it doesn't work out for whatever reason, please be kind enough to spell out your reasoning and answer her questions in detail. She will hurt much less and be able to move on much more easily :)

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26 Nov 2010, 11:30 am

Kaybee wrote:

sluice wrote:
They are likely more difficult to get to know and find some common interest to talk about unless you are already there doing the same thing.

Why? I don't see any reason it should be more difficult to find a common interest with an Aspie woman than an NT woman. In fact, I'd think it would be easier in a lot of cases, since Aspie women tend to have more stereotypically masculine interests, such as science or gaming, and are less likely to be interested in stereotypically feminine things such as fashion.

Why? I don't see any reason it should be more difficult to find a common interest with an Aspie woman than an NT woman. In fact, I'd think it would be easier in a lot of cases, since Aspie women tend to have more stereotypically masculine interests, such as science or gaming, and are less likely to be interested in stereotypically feminine things such as fashion.
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I think he is reffering to the fact that nts usually seem to be more approachable/open to meeting random strangers than aspies so he would proably have more luck getting to know a nt woman than an aspie one.

Whenever Im introduced to someone I barely know I try to restrain myself from talking unless its neccesary and give answers that are as short as possible when asked. This is done to avoid saying anything too weird the first few times I see them. A few weeks ago for example I was introduced to 2 female class mates and even though we hang around same people we barely talked for the first week. Right now I have started to open up to one of them, she seems nice/too nice and every now and then we start talking. I still have my problems every now and then but whenever I do something that isnt what I should do she takes it as some kind of joke(most nt woman would run away from me if I started talking to them the first day).


What you mention(videogames interest etc) could be helpfull for spotting an aspie female but most of the times its hard to tell what a girl is interested in unless you meet at something related to the interest in common.


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29 Nov 2010, 6:20 pm

Video game arcade, notice all the young (alone) :wink: women you find in these places , I've just come out of one just now and I was seriously thrashed at Tekken 6 by a young and rather attractive girl ,


I was kind of turned on actually......


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29 Nov 2010, 9:08 pm

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I agree with Mindslave, and I think you should think what made you comfortable at the time. I think I would be terrified to meet an AS woman, my apparent mysteries were a set of tools I used, I would feel naked!
I don't believe in the absolute duality AS/NT, it is a very wide and smooth spectrum and understanding is not synonym of AS. The same way, understanding is not synonym of forgiving...
There are many good girls that are beyond the stereotype of the clueless blond shopping bot. And as Kilroy said: you would be narrowing your hunting ground by a lot.

i agree about the spectrum thing. and it may be worth considering, Harpist, that maybe you were more comfortable with the AS woman because you could pull down the barriers a little bit and be accepting of yourself. it is worth cultivating that same comfort around NT women too, both for your own well-being and because AS women are not very common (as 3 other people said).


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29 Nov 2010, 9:11 pm

Harpist wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. Interesting stuff.

menintights wrote:
Harpist wrote:
Fingers crossed I can at least be friends with her, hopefully more...


I believe this is what people mean when they say, "You're not trying to be her friend, you're trying to be in her friend zone."


I still don't get this friendzone nonsense...I want to be her friend. Being her friend is my primary concern as far as she is concerned. If a relationship develops, great. If it doesn't then that doesn't matter in the slightest because I'll have made a new friend. I'm not interested in becoming her friend so that I can go out with her. I'm interested in becoming her friend so that I can be her friend.

i :heart: that attitude.


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29 Nov 2010, 9:13 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
Video game arcade, notice all the young (alone) :wink: women you find in these places , I've just come out of one just now and I was seriously thrashed at Tekken 6 by a young and rather attractive girl ,


I was kind of turned on actually......

Sorry, I don't find typical aspie interests such as video games or anime sexy.



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29 Nov 2010, 9:18 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
Harpist wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. Interesting stuff.

menintights wrote:
Harpist wrote:
Fingers crossed I can at least be friends with her, hopefully more...


I believe this is what people mean when they say, "You're not trying to be her friend, you're trying to be in her friend zone."


I still don't get this friendzone nonsense...I want to be her friend. Being her friend is my primary concern as far as she is concerned. If a relationship develops, great. If it doesn't then that doesn't matter in the slightest because I'll have made a new friend. I'm not interested in becoming her friend so that I can go out with her. I'm interested in becoming her friend so that I can be her friend.

i :heart: that attitude.


yeah women do for a reason



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29 Nov 2010, 9:49 pm

Kilroy wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Harpist wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. Interesting stuff.

menintights wrote:
Harpist wrote:
Fingers crossed I can at least be friends with her, hopefully more...


I believe this is what people mean when they say, "You're not trying to be her friend, you're trying to be in her friend zone."


I still don't get this friendzone nonsense...I want to be her friend. Being her friend is my primary concern as far as she is concerned. If a relationship develops, great. If it doesn't then that doesn't matter in the slightest because I'll have made a new friend. I'm not interested in becoming her friend so that I can go out with her. I'm interested in becoming her friend so that I can be her friend.

i :heart: that attitude.


yeah women do for a reason

mmmhmmm because it is sexyyyyyyyy. when i was young and single, a guy who was friends with me for the sake of being friends was the guy i turned to when i broke up with some other guy... cuz he was there for me, and that was HOT.


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27 Dec 2010, 12:37 am

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Behind closed doors and the faint glow of computer screens.


I don't think I could date one who was sedentary.


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27 Dec 2010, 2:48 am

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Behind closed doors and the faint glow of computer screens.


I don't think I could date one who was sedentary.


...says the man who presumably posted this from in front of the faint glow of a computer screen. Using a computer != sedentary. Leaps of logic for the lose.


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27 Dec 2010, 3:11 am

Most of us probably are sedentary anyway.

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Sedentary means a lifestyle that includes only the light physical activity associated with typical day-to-day life. Less than 30 minutes per day in addition to daily activities.

Moderate means at least 30 minutes up to 60 minutes a day of moderate physical in addition to daily activities.

Active means a lifestyle that includes physical activity equivalent to walking more than 3 miles per day at 3 to 4 miles per hour, in addition to the light physical activity associated with typical day-to-day life. Sixty minutes or more minutes a day of moderate physical activity in addition to daily activities.



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27 Dec 2010, 3:42 am

Just because a girl's an Aspie, doesn't mean a relationship with her will work out, and just because a girl's an NT, doesn't mean a relationship with her won't work out.

Everyone is different. Base your judgement on the person, not if they have the same condition as you or not.



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28 Dec 2010, 5:49 pm

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Just like finding an AS guy, leave a trail of platonic solids and they will follow it.

One of the greates comments I have ever seen on this site.


Anyways, I've never met an aspie girl. I've met a girl on the spectrum, but not an aspie girl. I'd settle for an intelligent NT girl if I had to. They're not so bad.



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28 Dec 2010, 8:25 pm

Kaybee wrote:
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Behind closed doors and the faint glow of computer screens.


I don't think I could date one who was sedentary.


...says the man who presumably posted this from in front of the faint glow of a computer screen. Using a computer != sedentary. Leaps of logic for the lose.


I am referring to those who only have activities that involve a computer-ish device. I could date one who did like those things, but I would like one who likes to travel, and do some outdoor activities as well.


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