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13 Jan 2011, 12:33 pm

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If there are any other Aspie guys out there who think in a similar way, could you offer me a little insight into perhaps how your hearts work... I am really struggling to think that our time together means so little to him when I am falling apart.


Four "Aspie guys" have come in and given the same opinion. I am only pointing out to the OP that the one Aspie female who has come in and answered her question with her opinion on what an "Aspie guy" felt or thought should be taken in context. No offense intended there so please don't take it so personally :)


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13 Jan 2011, 12:34 pm

as smart as I am, my opinion isn't fact
its just opinion



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13 Jan 2011, 12:39 pm

Kilroy wrote:
as smart as I am, my opinion isn't fact
its just opinion


Actually, when the opinion being requested is "insight" into yourself, it becomes about as close to fact as can be expressed. No one else knows the "facts" about how you feel better than you do. This was my point.



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13 Jan 2011, 12:49 pm

Hi friends: please don't fight - i never meant to create bad feelings...

I'm touched that you guys remember me from before and thank you for your advice. Life's a bit hard at times and I miss my best friend, but you're support is really appreciated. It is good to get some insight into how he might feel so I can pick myself up and move on, aspie style!!

Take care
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13 Jan 2011, 1:35 pm

I don't have the slightest idea about your particular case, but I can end relationships in a heartbeat and never look back if I believe it is necessary to do so.

This can range from an unanswered email to cutting off all contact with my abusive adoptive parents when I was 17.

It might be an Aspie thing, I don't know...

Anyway, sorry to hear about your loss, and good luck! :)



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13 Jan 2011, 1:48 pm

Obviously abusive parents is a separate case and I'm sorry to hear about that, but in terms of other relationships, what do you do if you realise you've made a mistake and the relationship might be worth another chance? Or is changing your mind not an option?

Moving on quickly seems in some ways like a healthy thing to do, but I don't think I'll ever be able to do it - I think the emotions run too deep.

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13 Jan 2011, 2:07 pm

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Obviously abusive parents is a separate case and I'm sorry to hear about that, but in terms of other relationships, what do you do if you realise you've made a mistake and the relationship might be worth another chance? Or is changing your mind not an option?

Moving on quickly seems in some ways like a healthy thing to do, but I don't think I'll ever be able to do it - I think the emotions run too deep.

SurfMaggie xx


Once again, this is just me, but changing my mind is [I]totally[/] an option.

I do it all the time, it's like a sort of intellectual pseudo-bipolarism: kind of like mood-swings but more properly described as "thought-swings".

My thoughts seem to govern my emotions to a very unusual degree, and it's murder when it comes to relationships - if I were him, I could very easily show up back on your doorstep consumed with huge amount of genuine passion like what happened before never even occurred.

But it wouldn't be like I realized what I had done was a mistake, and sought to correct it - It would be like my entire existential paradigm had suddenly changed and I lived in a different world than the one I lived yesterday, and in this world we're together.

No wonder I'm single... :roll:



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13 Jan 2011, 6:43 pm

I, too would like some insight from an Aspie regarding breakups. I've been in a relationship off and on with a man with AS for about 4 1/2 years. He breaks up with me so unexpectedly and I never know why. And he completely cuts off all contact....doesn't answer my calls, ignores my texts and email. Then after a few weeks or months (or 1 1/2 years the first time!) we end up back together, usually because I contact him for some random reason. He says he misses me when we break up and he said that he really had a difficult time after the first break up Why would he break up and come back so often? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, we are two college educated adults (49 years old). We're not a couple of teenagers! (Even though the behavior is very adolescent.)



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13 Jan 2011, 9:30 pm

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Once again, this is just me, but changing my mind is totally[/] an option.

I do it all the time, it's like a sort of intellectual pseudo-bipolarism: kind of like mood-swings but more properly described as "thought-swings".

My thoughts seem to govern my emotions to a very unusual degree, and it's murder when it comes to relationships - if I were him, I could very easily show up back on your doorstep consumed with huge amount of genuine passion like what happened before never even occurred.

But it wouldn't be like I realized what I had done was a mistake, and sought to correct it - It would be like my entire existential paradigm had suddenly changed and I lived in a different world than the one I lived yesterday, and in this world we're together.

No wonder I'm single... :roll:


You really should tell the women you date - or try to date - about this before you enter into a relationship with them. At least they'd have the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether they want to give their heart to someone capable of professing devotion and affection on Tuesday, then dumping them on Wednesday - and without ever looking back, even. I'd never enter into a relationship under those circumstances, because I'd never be able to trust that you meant what you said.....since you can apparently mean something, but then have a "thought swing" and then everything changes. What does, "I love you," even mean under those circumstances? Do you think you can comprehend the kind of damage you're capable of doing to a woman when you function the way you've described? Particularly if she doesn't [i]know
that's the way you function? She's thanking her lucky stars that she's found you - she doesn't even care about your Aspieness - and you can turn your feelings for her off like you're turning off a faucet. And you're willing to do this to someone who loves you? That's her biggest flaw: she gave you a chance and she loves you. That's what she deserves for giving you a chance? Stunning.


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13 Jan 2011, 9:35 pm

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Once again, this is just me, but changing my mind is totally[/] an option.

I do it all the time, it's like a sort of intellectual pseudo-bipolarism: kind of like mood-swings but more properly described as "thought-swings".

My thoughts seem to govern my emotions to a very unusual degree, and it's murder when it comes to relationships - if I were him, I could very easily show up back on your doorstep consumed with huge amount of genuine passion like what happened before never even occurred.

But it wouldn't be like I realized what I had done was a mistake, and sought to correct it - It would be like my entire existential paradigm had suddenly changed and I lived in a different world than the one I lived yesterday, and in this world we're together.

No wonder I'm single... :roll:


You really should tell the women you date - or try to date - about this before you enter into a relationship with them. At least they'd have the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether they want to give their heart to someone capable of professing devotion and affection on Tuesday, then dumping them on Wednesday - and without ever looking back, even. I'd never enter into a relationship under those circumstances, because I'd never be able to trust that you meant what you said.....since you can apparently mean something, but then have a "thought swing" and then everything changes. What does, "I love you," even mean under those circumstances? Do you think you can comprehend the kind of damage you're capable of doing to a woman when you function the way you've described? Particularly if she doesn't [i]know
that's the way you function? She's thanking her lucky stars that she's found you - she doesn't even care about your Aspieness - and you can turn your feelings for her off like you're turning off a faucet. And you're willing to do this to someone who loves you? That's her biggest flaw: she gave you a chance and she loves you. That's what she deserves for giving you a chance? Stunning.


She had to know this was a possibility if she "doesn't even care about" his "Aspieness".



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13 Jan 2011, 9:36 pm

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Once again, this is just me, but changing my mind is totally[/] an option.

I do it all the time, it's like a sort of intellectual pseudo-bipolarism: kind of like mood-swings but more properly described as "thought-swings".

My thoughts seem to govern my emotions to a very unusual degree, and it's murder when it comes to relationships - if I were him, I could very easily show up back on your doorstep consumed with huge amount of genuine passion like what happened before never even occurred.

But it wouldn't be like I realized what I had done was a mistake, and sought to correct it - It would be like my entire existential paradigm had suddenly changed and I lived in a different world than the one I lived yesterday, and in this world we're together.

No wonder I'm single... :roll:


You really should tell the women you date - or try to date - about this before you enter into a relationship with them. At least they'd have the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether they want to give their heart to someone capable of professing devotion and affection on Tuesday, then dumping them on Wednesday - and without ever looking back, even. I'd never enter into a relationship under those circumstances, because I'd never be able to trust that you meant what you said.....since you can apparently mean something, but then have a "thought swing" and then everything changes. What does, "I love you," even mean under those circumstances? Do you think you can comprehend the kind of damage you're capable of doing to a woman when you function the way you've described? Particularly if she doesn't [i]know
that's the way you function? She's thanking her lucky stars that she's found you - she doesn't even care about your Aspieness - and you can turn your feelings for her off like you're turning off a faucet. And you're willing to do this to someone who loves you? That's her biggest flaw: she gave you a chance and she loves you. That's what she deserves for giving you a chance? Stunning.


*ponders*

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13 Jan 2011, 9:47 pm

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Grisha wrote:
Once again, this is just me, but changing my mind is totally[/] an option.

I do it all the time, it's like a sort of intellectual pseudo-bipolarism: kind of like mood-swings but more properly described as "thought-swings".

My thoughts seem to govern my emotions to a very unusual degree, and it's murder when it comes to relationships - if I were him, I could very easily show up back on your doorstep consumed with huge amount of genuine passion like what happened before never even occurred.

But it wouldn't be like I realized what I had done was a mistake, and sought to correct it - It would be like my entire existential paradigm had suddenly changed and I lived in a different world than the one I lived yesterday, and in this world we're together.

No wonder I'm single... :roll:


You really should tell the women you date - or try to date - about this before you enter into a relationship with them. At least they'd have the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether they want to give their heart to someone capable of professing devotion and affection on Tuesday, then dumping them on Wednesday - and without ever looking back, even. I'd never enter into a relationship under those circumstances, because I'd never be able to trust that you meant what you said.....since you can apparently mean something, but then have a "thought swing" and then everything changes. What does, "I love you," even mean under those circumstances? Do you think you can comprehend the kind of damage you're capable of doing to a woman when you function the way you've described? Particularly if she doesn't [i]know
that's the way you function? She's thanking her lucky stars that she's found you - she doesn't even care about your Aspieness - and you can turn your feelings for her off like you're turning off a faucet. And you're willing to do this to someone who loves you? That's her biggest flaw: she gave you a chance and she loves you. That's what she deserves for giving you a chance? Stunning.


She had to know this was a possibility if she "doesn't even care about" his "Aspieness".


I'm sorry @MidlifeAspie, could you point me to the reference that describes the above as a symptom of Asperger's? Cause I'd really like to see that reference. I've never - not in one instance - even seen a hint of that kind of behavior described as part of Asperger's.


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13 Jan 2011, 9:49 pm

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I, too would like some insight from an Aspie regarding breakups. I've been in a relationship off and on with a man with AS for about 4 1/2 years. He breaks up with me so unexpectedly and I never know why. And he completely cuts off all contact....doesn't answer my calls, ignores my texts and email. Then after a few weeks or months (or 1 1/2 years the first time!) we end up back together, usually because I contact him for some random reason. He says he misses me when we break up and he said that he really had a difficult time after the first break up Why would he break up and come back so often? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, we are two college educated adults (49 years old). We're not a couple of teenagers! (Even though the behavior is very adolescent.)


I would love to know the rationale here. I am an aspie FEMALE and I would never EVER do such a thing, but have had it done TO me and find it excruciatingly painful. So if any aspie man could explain it I might be eternally grateful.

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13 Jan 2011, 9:53 pm

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I would love to know the rationale here. I am an aspie FEMALE and I would never EVER do such a thing, but have had it done TO me and find it excruciatingly painful. So if any aspie man could explain it I might be eternally grateful.

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I thought your ex was NT? Maybe I just assumed that. I do know how you feel though, Kate.


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13 Jan 2011, 9:57 pm

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I'm sorry @MidlifeAspie, could you point me to the reference that describes the above as a symptom of Asperger's? Cause I'd really like to see that reference. I've never - not in one instance - even seen a hint of that kind of behavior described as part of Asperger's.


It's not.

And I find it very interesting that most of the Aspie *females* don't seem to embrace this "style" of breakups. But, I *do* want to hear more because it may help me to understand what happened to me. I'm all ears.

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13 Jan 2011, 9:58 pm

Maggie.

Think about it; why would he need to 'switch off' his feelings if they didn't hurt a looot.

This kind of muted response to things due to 'overfeeling' seems to be a core component of the AS experience for many of us.


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