Asymmetry in Aspie-NT relationships

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18 Jan 2011, 1:00 pm

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Making an NT act like an Aspie? That's just as stupid as NTs expecting us to act like them.


In an NT-AS relationship or marriage compromise is required by both sides otherwise the relationship will fail.


A certain amount of compromise is required in any relationship, but saying this should be done by making an NT more Aspie is stupid. The way to do it is for the couple in question to naturally do what they have to do in their circumstances. You can't just set out generic guidelines.


I don't think the extreme of calling Grisha's question "stupid" was warranted. Just because you don't agree with something does not make it unworthy of discussion. I believe what he was getting at is the basic question of "Why must the Aspie always be the one to compromise".


I think saying all couples with an Aspie should do one thing or another is what's stupid. The idea what it's not always the Aspie who should compromise is something I agree with - compromise in a relationship should be mutual, not just focused on the Aspie, or the NT.



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18 Jan 2011, 1:12 pm

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That's why I'm looking for someone who's not much more social than me.


Tony Atwood actually insists the opposite is true. For a relationship between an AS and an NT to survive and thrive he states that there are three things that must exist, the third of which is that the NT partner must have a successful social life outside of the relationship. He states that an NT partner without this will eventually be forced to leave the relationship due to his/her need for social interaction being stymied and buried within the confines of the relationship. This is something I am actively working with my wife on - trying to get her to go out more often and do things with her girlfriends.


I actually agree with what Tony Atwood says and what I was referring to was someone who doesn't need to go too many couple's event. Note the part I bolded above. If the person is very social, then they must have a social life outside the relationship. If they go to too many couple's events, I wouldn't be able to cope because I can only take so much social interaction myself. I was just saying that I would need some alone "me" time as well.



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18 Jan 2011, 1:17 pm

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If they go to too many couple's, I wouldn't be able to cope because I can only take so much social interaction myself. I was just saying that I would need some alone "me" time time as well.


Absolutely. This is why my marriage works. She gives me my space when I need it and she is there when I need that. Her socializing outside the relationship serves two purposes as it also gives me some alone time :)



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18 Jan 2011, 2:54 pm

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I think my NT looks after me in one way, but I look after him in another.


That is what should happen in all relationships and, I agree, that is how I feel about the relationship with my AS husband: yin and yang; I'll find for us here / you fend for us there.

Finding a truly "equal" relationship is a challenge for any two people. Everyone has unique strengths and weaknesses, interests and needs. Sometimes people simply "work" together, with all that meshing like puzzle pieces, but most often people don't. Which is why one must kiss a lot frogs to find one's prince. The relationship has to have more than attraction; it has to "fit." When you finally find that fit, you hang onto it. Amazing how important it is; society should really talk about that more, and less about lust.


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18 Jan 2011, 2:59 pm

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If they go to too many couple's, I wouldn't be able to cope because I can only take so much social interaction myself. I was just saying that I would need some alone "me" time time as well.


Absolutely. This is why my marriage works. She gives me my space when I need it and she is there when I need that. Her socializing outside the relationship serves two purposes as it also gives me some alone time :)


I have to be careful with my husband not to assume that he will not want to socialize with me as a couple; when I get too involved in my own social life (which I do have and, well, most NT women married to either NT or AS men have) then he gets hurt that I don't seem to want to spend time with him. Always talk, always check, right? But we do have a pretty natural balance of wanting to be together v. alone; while it requires a small check every so often, we're pretty close to being on the same page.


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18 Jan 2011, 3:05 pm

MidlifeAspie wrote:
Jono wrote:
That's why I'm looking for someone who's not much more social than me.


Tony Atwood actually insists the opposite is true. For a relationship between an AS and an NT to survive and thrive he states that there are three things that must exist, the third of which is that the NT partner must have a successful social life outside of the relationship. He states that an NT partner without this will eventually be forced to leave the relationship due to his/her need for social interaction being stymied and buried within the confines of the relationship. This is something I am actively working with my wife on - trying to get her to go out more often and do things with her girlfriends.


It really depends on how much social need the other partner has. Not all NT's are the same. I actually don't know if I'm NT or AS, but I definitely have more social needs than my husband, and I am quite comfortable filling those with female friends on my own. Still, I'd say my social needs are quite a few steps down from the average NT's. If the gap was too big, I don't think it would work for my husband; he wants me to spend time with him in his world, too.

All that stuff should get talked about between ANY pair dating. So much goes into fitting together and sharing a life. Social needs are definitely part of it.


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