Why men are increasingly preferring Video Games over dating
I'm seriously considering going around just being 100% brutally honest all the time. When you just don't give a f**k anymore, you become immune to embarrassment. I think my new line will be "Hi. I'm not rich. I don't have or want kids. I think pop culture in general is lame as s**t. You're cute and I'd like to get to know you better. Would you like to go out sometime and pay half, since that would be true equality? If not I'll quit bugging you."
Yeah, I know, chances are I will never get anywhere again, but I think I'm OK with that, because I lost all tolerance for socio-robotic BS a long time ago.
Right on brotha...
But I see where this is going, though. I don't think there's going to be a revolution for Omega and Beta males (us) any more than there's going to be a spike in the sexual market value of fat chicks. Men like beauty, and women like dominance. That's brutally unfair because it's a hell of a lot easier to change your appearance than it is to re-sculpt your personality right down to the subtle accents, and it's doubly hard for us folks who were born at least partially blind to it. But women don't see that. They've never had to experience it, they don't know the struggle, and therefore don't care. That's not a moral but a logical fact, and one that today's culture allows most women the luxury of not knowing.
For those of you who want to completely reject society's BS rules, remember that if society rejects you, I mean really rejects you, and you're not rich, you're f*cked.
Institutions. Jail. Homelessness. Suck it up and put on your fake smile.

I have an idea, single men should mass-email mass-broadcast each others in order to adopt a new movement: boycotting asking the girls out (not boycotting girls, or dating ....but only boycotting the initiation of asking out). No more pain of rejection , no more awkwardness , no more of "being yourself (aka your -perfect-image-to-women self), no competition among guys anymore...
If this movement is adopted on wide scale and world wide ,all social behaviors will change to our favor:
-Women will be obliged to initiate the contact, real-like and online dating alike.
-Women will be the ones who should step in , talk and ask , while we just sit and wait.
-On online dating site, if most women (who are seeking for date) notice that they're receiving zero message then they will have to do the unusual :messaging guys.
-The absolutely unattractive guys (for some reasons like looks or social awkwardness) won't lose anything, the only difference that instead of being rejected 100s of times and getting nowhere they just won't get asked out by girls. Worst scenario for them: the same ,no gf. The best scenario for them: Being unexpectedly asked out by some girl.
-A much better balance between the number of desperate" guys and the number of "desperate" girls.
- Desperate girls or girls who are too socially awkward or too shy to ask guys out will start signing up on dating sites more often, balancing the ratio to our favor.
- The highly desirable guys will become taken much more quickly , leaving the girls with no choice but to ask out the less desirable guys.
-In clubs and pubs , the girls are the ones who will ask the guys for a dance or offer some guy a drink.
- Economic changes: by adopting this movement , the number of single men and women will increase significantly and the single period will rise in the beginning , pushing women to become more financially independent and aggressive in order to survive alone ==> the dream of being a housewife will decrease and so the need for a good breadwinner male , making the not-so-wealthy men's life easier.
Who's with me? Who's with me??

Eh, if it was successful it would work. But I wonder how you would go about convincing younger men to this.
Yeah, I know, chances are I will never get anywhere again, but I think I'm OK with that, because I lost all tolerance for socio-robotic BS a long time ago.
Think how awesome(and cheap) that date would be if you got a yes.
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In my experience the answer to that question is yes. My philosophy is similar to yours but the majority of my ex's seemed to think everything should have been about them, not straight away but after a few weeks/a month they would then start showing their true colours. Not surprisingly my relationships with those ex's didn't last long after that starts happening.
One thing I will say (and this isn't aimed at you) is that a lot of people who constantly preach on about wanting respect, really don't know how to show any back, and fail to see that it cuts both ways.
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But I see where this is going, though. I don't think there's going to be a revolution for Omega and Beta males (us) any more than there's going to be a spike in the sexual market value of fat chicks. Men like beauty, and women like dominance. That's brutally unfair because it's a hell of a lot easier to change your appearance than it is to re-sculpt your personality right down to the subtle accents, and it's doubly hard for us folks who were born at least partially blind to it. But women don't see that. They've never had to experience it, they don't know the struggle, and therefore don't care. That's not a moral but a logical fact, and one that today's culture allows most women the luxury of not knowing.
For those of you who want to completely reject society's BS rules, remember that if society rejects you, I mean really rejects you, and you're not rich, you're f*cked.
Institutions. Jail. Homelessness. Suck it up and put on your fake smile.
As for "fat chicks", I think a lot of bigger girls can be very attractive, but I digress...
About institutions... I meet the criteria for at least five mental disorders so if I end up in one it's going to be because of breakdowns that are beyond my control. Jail... nah, I'm not dangerous to other people (despite how I probably sound on here half the time) and I'm not doing anything that will put me there. Homelessness... well, I'm fighting to make sure things don't reach that point. But if I kept getting into (typical) BS relationships as I have in the past, I would surely END UP IN AN INSTITUTION, haha. When I know something is pure BS, I'm annoyed and disgusted, it shows, and there's no faking it. I can't live a lie for someone and I don't want them to live a lie for me either. And I'd rather shoot myself than have kids (maybe it's just the area I currently live in, but 99% of women I encounter think this is mandatory). If that has to mean staying single from now on with only the occasional casual encounter, then so be it.
In my experience the answer to that question is yes. My philosophy is similar to yours but the majority of my ex's seemed to think everything should have been about them, not straight away but after a few weeks/a month they would then start showing their true colours. Not surprisingly my relationships with those ex's didn't last long after that starts happening.
One thing I will say (and this isn't aimed at you) is that a lot of people who constantly preach on about wanting respect, really don't know how to show any back, and fail to see that it cuts both ways.
Perhaps they are looking for a dog and don't realise it? Trying to subsitiute dog ownership with a bf/gf relationship isn't healthy. (Attempt at humor)
Although seriously, it's sad that respect and communication in relationships aren't common.
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I'm female but I have a boyfriend.
PM's welcome.

I have an idea, single men should mass-email mass-broadcast each others in order to adopt a new movement: boycotting asking the girls out (not boycotting girls, or dating ....but only boycotting the initiation of asking out). No more pain of rejection , no more awkwardness , no more of "being yourself (aka your -perfect-image-to-women self), no competition among guys anymore...
If this movement is adopted on wide scale and world wide ,all social behaviors will change to our favor:
-Women will be obliged to initiate the contact, real-like and online dating alike.
-Women will be the ones who should step in , talk and ask , while we just sit and wait.
-On online dating site, if most women (who are seeking for date) notice that they're receiving zero message then they will have to do the unusual :messaging guys.
-The absolutely unattractive guys (for some reasons like looks or social awkwardness) won't lose anything, the only difference that instead of being rejected 100s of times and getting nowhere they just won't get asked out by girls. Worst scenario for them: the same ,no gf. The best scenario for them: Being unexpectedly asked out by some girl.
-A much better balance between the number of desperate" guys and the number of "desperate" girls.
- Desperate girls or girls who are too socially awkward or too shy to ask guys out will start signing up on dating sites more often, balancing the ratio to our favor.
- The highly desirable guys will become taken much more quickly , leaving the girls with no choice but to ask out the less desirable guys.
-In clubs and pubs , the girls are the ones who will ask the guys for a dance or offer some guy a drink.
- Economic changes: by adopting this movement , the number of single men and women will increase significantly and the single period will rise in the beginning , pushing women to become more financially independent and aggressive in order to survive alone ==> the dream of being a housewife will decrease and so the need for a good breadwinner male , making the not-so-wealthy men's life easier.
Who's with me? Who's with me??

Why don't we cut off our nuts and wear dresses while we're at it?

Girls DO make the first move, it's our job to respond. The problem is that this is done non-verbally, so for our demographic it doesn't work out so well (well, at least with approaching women we don't know at all). I don't know about anyone else, but it's much easier of a time (relatively speaking) when you meet someone you see regularly somewhere or meet someone through being introduced by one of your friends.
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Xeno said:
Really?
mra1200 said:
The non-verbal signal I perceive as that person wanting to initiate something is fleeting eye contact. Also maybe leaning towards you, talking in your direction while in a conversation with someone else (depends on what they say). Is there anything else?
The non-verbal signal I perceive as that person wanting to initiate something is fleeting eye contact. Also maybe leaning towards you, talking in your direction while in a conversation with someone else (depends on what they say). Is there anything else?
I think smiling is up there high on the list too. I think that and what you mentioned are probably at the top of the list. Knowing it and recognizing it are two totally different things. It doesn't help that I have sh***y eyesight either.
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The mass-psychological and societal implications involved if many men choose to place short-term satisfaction and amusement over cultivating romantic relationships and families is quite disturbing.
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What psychological implications? Please be specific, I can imagine some societal ones. But when I try for psychological it escapes me completely.
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