Beautiful women becoming extinct

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USA is only a slice of the world and the subject of obesity in the US is of no interest to me.

If you want to make a point and have people take you seriously the burden of proof falls on you.

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You are entitled to your own preferences but being underweight equates to not taking good care of ones self as much as being overweight does, and most women care to look good. Different women have different standards of what looking good entails, however.

Well yeah, underweight is a BMI under 18.5 if i remember right and 18.5 to 25 is healthy, 25 to 30 is overweight, and over 30 is fat.

BMI doesnt account for a person's overall healthy, like a person who is a 30 might not be truely obese, but someone who is a 35 most likely will be.

The average woman in the united states, according to wikipedia, is about 5'4" and 164 pounds, that is overweight.

I'm really reluctant to contribute anything to this thread, which seems to be digging itself into a hole faster the further it continues, but that can't be right. Isn't the average height of a woman 5'6''? I'm positive I read that somewhere. 5'4'' seems very short to be average.

Oh, and attractiveness is subjective, not objective. Plus it incorporates a huge number of internal and external factors. Thus you cannot define a person as attractive according to how much they weigh. That's just stupid.

well yeah but this is physical attraction were talking about here

you'd be suprised how many overweight and obese people there are these days

I heard somewhere that people are slowly becoming more physically attractive

BMI is not an indicator of a healthy lifestyle. Are you ignorant to the fact a lot of people starve themselves to be normal sized? (no, not skinny, NORMAL sized)

These "healthy looking" people you see (based on their weight) may be rotten on the inside from a terrible lifestyle.

The BMI chart is no way to measure someone's body or health. Nor is the fact that women are becoming heavier the horrible thing it's being made out to be.

For thousands of years, heavier women were more attractive because it meant they had a man that could feed them. In many parts of the world, this is still true. Hell, in some parts of Africa little girls are force fed until they become morbidly obese because it's considered beautiful.

Developed countries are, naturally, going to have a larger supply of food. We're the women that have men that can feed us, basically.

How much you wanna bet a man in a third world country isn't going to call me ugly for not looking like a model?

And now, I'm going to take my fat ass and go.

I hate to say it but when you pull in facts and figures you have to remember - there's always the possibility that the author is talking straight from the side of their neck and that the number presented is fully cooked or intuited rather than being any real measure of anything.

As I said, 5'4'' being the average height of a woman? sure, wikipedia.

So my height is even under the woman's average height in US. I am not surprised tho since more than half of girls here are taller than me.

and what's the normal sized exactly? Is the normal size the same for everyone?

I am going to join in on the whole "BMI is ridiculous" bandwagon. I hate it when people use that as a way to measure a healthy weight. They seriously fail to take into consideration the fact that muscle weighs more than fat. I used to run four miles a day and workout rather frequently. I weighed more then than I do now and I was by far more fit, thin, and in better overall health. Back then, according to the silly BMI, I was very much overweight. Now I am not according to that thing. BMI knows nothing.

it bugs me when people simply state what they think is universally attractive or unattractive. opinions on attractiveness =/= fact

but in terms of causes of obesity... how about the common cold virus? just throwing that out there.. the causes of obesity seem to be pretty myriad and complex and not easily reduced to simple overeating or under-exercising.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 031548.htm

I agree. I think this will actually happen, although I won't try to pin it to a particular year. But I think that these things' days are numbered and it will be shunned just like cigarettes and we'll be collectively healthier (and thinner) for it.

As an omen of the future, I recently saw a store display of Coca Cola from Mexico at my local market. It had a banner over it advertising this fact. Why would Americans want to drink Coca Cola imported from Mexico? Because it's made with cane sugar, not HFCS. Coca Cola is not healthy and the Mexican version (which used to be just how all Coca Cola was) is just as bad for you as Coke made with HCFS. I bring it up just because it's an instance of people searching out food that doesn't have HFCS. Cane sugar is high in calories and of course too much can make you fat and unhealthy. However, the U.S. had a serious sweet tooth for cane sugar well established before the rise in obesity. The national weight started really going up when cane sugar was replaced with HFCS. People were eating sweet treats at a high rate before then, but somehow not getting as fat from it.

I follow Michael Pollan's Food Rules. Like Techstepprgeneration, he believes it's all dietary and has little to do with the calories themselves. The rules are things like Don't eat breakfast cereals that change the color of the milk and Only eat food that will eventually rot. It's many different ways of saying don't eat processed food. And he never mentions calories. Overwight isn't some character defect the way some make it out to be. It's a side effect of food industrialization.

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Even if the 'wimmen will become morbidly obese and therefore hideously ugly' hypothesis wasn't a pile of carp, it still doesn't take into account changing standards and tastes. Who knows what will be considered 'beautiful' in 100 years time?

Maybe in a post-apocalyptic future where everyone is cachexic with radiation poisoning and riddled with cancers, the curvier woman will be seen as a picture of health and beauty...

(on an aside, I love how this thread keeps on going despite the original post being deleted )