Boyfriend is stuck in his own world

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16 Jun 2011, 12:17 am

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Lately I've been becoming increasingly frustrated that my boyfriend with Asperger's rarely acknowledges me in any meaningful way. He won't ask how I'm doing or make conversation outside of what he's interested in at the moment. It used to be quirky, but now it feels alienating to never feel like he's there. He'll spend hours talking about obscure topics, but I can't get him to take any interest in talking about me.

Do you feel like you've been this person, or that you've been around this person? I'd appreciate any advice you have on dealing with it. I can't deal with things being this way much longer.


People with AS generally do not realize that they are supposed to reach out to others, unless someone informs them of this. In many instances, a person with AS won't even share their interests with others because it never occurs to them to do so. Your boyfriend doesn't seem to have this problem, which brings us to the other issue, when or if people with AS realize they are supposed to share their interests with others, they often do so in the manner you have stated.

Your boyfriend does not know that he is supposed to inquire about the things you would like him to inquire about. It doesn't occur to him. Subconsciously, he expects you to tell him if something is wrong. People with AS generally need to be explicitly introduced to the concept of asking about others and taking an active interest in the lives of others.

You should discuss this issue with him because it is something that he really does need to learn. Tell him he needs to be sure to get status updates from those he cares about to collect information on their physical and mental wellbeing so he can respond accordingly.



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16 Jun 2011, 6:28 am

meh....you're creating an issue out of nothing, really.



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16 Jun 2011, 7:31 am

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if he's not going to try, why should you do all the effort in the relationship?


I ask myself this question all the time.

I don't know if you're understanding what I'm trying to say.

Have you explictly told him that this is a deal breaker? That part of what you need in a relationship is for him to say these little things and ask you about your day and stuff.

Saying stuff like "I'd like you to consider me more" is very vague for an Aspie. If you've said something like that and consider your needs communicated, your needs haven't been because there is no clear explanation of what is needed to be done to consider you more.

I'm the Aspie in my relationship, my bf may be but possibly not but there are some things that he asked of me because they were important to him in relationships. In my case it was flirting with him, it felt odd for a long time and some of my attempts didn't work out well but the fact that I kept on trying let him know that I cared. I tried because it was something that was important to him because he is important to me.


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17 Jun 2011, 5:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
meh....you're creating an issue out of nothing, really.


I feel like nothing I say is being heard. Any time when we talk, or do anything together, for that matter, I feel like a passenger in the car. He's going to go wherever he's going to go whether I'm there or not.

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People with AS generally do not realize that they are supposed to reach out to others, unless someone informs them of this. In many instances, a person with AS won't even share their interests with others because it never occurs to them to do so. Your boyfriend doesn't seem to have this problem, which brings us to the other issue, when or if people with AS realize they are supposed to share their interests with others, they often do so in the manner you have stated.

Your boyfriend does not know that he is supposed to inquire about the things you would like him to inquire about. It doesn't occur to him. Subconsciously, he expects you to tell him if something is wrong. People with AS generally need to be explicitly introduced to the concept of asking about others and taking an active interest in the lives of others.

You should discuss this issue with him because it is something that he really does need to learn. Tell him he needs to be sure to get status updates from those he cares about to collect information on their physical and mental wellbeing so he can respond accordingly.


I think the way you put this sounds very sensible. I'll try to word it like you did and hope that it's helpful for him. It sounds like I have to ask him to check my real-life Twitter feed.

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I don't know if you're understanding what I'm trying to say.

Have you explictly told him that this is a deal breaker? That part of what you need in a relationship is for him to say these little things and ask you about your day and stuff.

Saying stuff like "I'd like you to consider me more" is very vague for an Aspie. If you've said something like that and consider your needs communicated, your needs haven't been because there is no clear explanation of what is needed to be done to consider you more.

I'm the Aspie in my relationship, my bf may be but possibly not but there are some things that he asked of me because they were important to him in relationships. In my case it was flirting with him, it felt odd for a long time and some of my attempts didn't work out well but the fact that I kept on trying let him know that I cared. I tried because it was something that was important to him because he is important to me.


I've been afraid to tell him that this is something that has to happen; only that it's something I need, as a person. That doesn't seem to have an effect on him yet. I think I'm scared that if I make it an ultimatum, he'll just ask if I want to break off the relationship without trying anything. You're saying I need to give him something concrete? I'm not always good at coming up with how to word things that he'll understand, but I'll try something like this, maybe.

"It's important to me that you show that you're interested a few times every time we talk. Ask me how my day went. Try to say at least two things about something if I bring it up. If I make a statement about something that happened, ask me how it was. If you're not sure what to say, just tell me, 'I'm not sure what to say about that,' and at least I'll know you're trying to think of something to say."

That doesn't cover nearly what a person does in a conversation, but at least it'd be something. I just want to see him try. It would feel so good to see him try. People with AS often don't express what they're feeling, and while that can't be blamed on them, it feels so alienating to have communication always be one-way.



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17 Jun 2011, 5:44 am

bakattsura wrote:
LostAlien wrote:
I don't know if you're understanding what I'm trying to say.

Have you explictly told him that this is a deal breaker? That part of what you need in a relationship is for him to say these little things and ask you about your day and stuff.

Saying stuff like "I'd like you to consider me more" is very vague for an Aspie. If you've said something like that and consider your needs communicated, your needs haven't been because there is no clear explanation of what is needed to be done to consider you more.

I'm the Aspie in my relationship, my bf may be but possibly not but there are some things that he asked of me because they were important to him in relationships. In my case it was flirting with him, it felt odd for a long time and some of my attempts didn't work out well but the fact that I kept on trying let him know that I cared. I tried because it was something that was important to him because he is important to me.


I've been afraid to tell him that this is something that has to happen; only that it's something I need, as a person. That doesn't seem to have an effect on him yet. I think I'm scared that if I make it an ultimatum, he'll just ask if I want to break off the relationship without trying anything. You're saying I need to give him something concrete? I'm not always good at coming up with how to word things that he'll understand, but I'll try something like this, maybe.

"It's important to me that you show that you're interested a few times every time we talk. Ask me how my day went. Try to say at least two things about something if I bring it up. If I make a statement about something that happened, ask me how it was. If you're not sure what to say, just tell me, 'I'm not sure what to say about that,' and at least I'll know you're trying to think of something to say."

That doesn't cover nearly what a person does in a conversation, but at least it'd be something. I just want to see him try. It would feel so good to see him try. People with AS often don't express what they're feeling, and while that can't be blamed on them, it feels so alienating to have communication always be one-way.

That sounds concrete enough, clear instruction on what you need from him. It will be a challange for him at the start because it will probably feel odd and it will take a lot of patience on both your parts.


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17 Jun 2011, 9:41 am

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Boyfriend is stuck in his own world


he can not attain his own escape velocity.
he must be in love with his own way of seeing things (that intensifies the gravity of experience),
therefore he maybe has no desire to "step out" to explore, let alone experience a less well thought out mind's findings.