Friend wants to fix me up with a guy...
To me it seems you have a larger problem than whether to go out with a guy..any guy for that matter. It seems you've got an overbearing mother (perhaps oversensitive to your AS?) with whom you need to sit down and have a conversation, and adult conversation, about your life, about how you need to grow and be responsible for your own life.
I don't know. I guess I wanted to know how I would start that conversation with her. >.<
Sry, that sounded more harsh than I intended.
I would say that first of all you approach her when you both are in good spirits. Perhaps there's something that both of you like to do together like have hot chocolate on a Friday night while playing Monopoly or something. The key is to find a non-threatening, relaxed atmosphere. And also a 'neutral' space -- by this I mean a place where neither has perceived power over the other (ie the boss's office, or for an old fashioned family, the wife in her kitchen, the husband in his den). I don't know where that would be for you.
Then you just kinda say something like "You know Mom, I've been thinking about my life and how to grow as an adult with AS. I need my space to make decisions, make mistakes, get hurt, or ask for help."
The fact that she gives your brother free reign tells me she is being protective of her daughter with AS, obviously because she loves you and doesn't want to see you hurt. But getting hurt, making mistakes, and failing is how we learn and grow. I think she needs to be reminded of that.
that's my two cents! Again, sorry if I sounded a bit harsh in my earlier post.
Um...we don't really have a neutral zone. She always has more power over me no matter where we are. I could try to talk to her at some point. >.<
Actually, I'm not surprised that you don't have a neutral space :/ I didn't really either, though my bedroom was somewhat neutral -- though I had to share it with my brother. I ended up explosively confronting my father about letting me live my life while out in a fishing boat in the middle of a lake during a thunderstorm. Sounds pretty dramatic, eh? My dad wanted to be all Captain Ahab and take our tiny boat out on the lake with 6 foot waves and lightning. I on the other hand didn't want to die, so I yelled at my Dad and forced my brother to motor us into shore and then everything just sort of poured out all at once.
I regret that this sort of thing had to happen in the manner it did, where it did. But at some point, one has to break away and claim their adulthood.
I regret that this sort of thing had to happen in the manner it did, where it did. But at some point, one has to break away and claim their adulthood.
I don't even have a lock on my bedroom door. They switched my doorknob to one without a lock after I hit puberty.
I know. I'm afraid that she'll just get mad at me if I try to break away and keep me locked up forever. >.<
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Well, since you can anticipate the questions your mother is going to ask, why don't you just write out the answers and give them to her? Give her the guy's name, address, info about his parents, where he goes to school, the friend who knows him, how long she's known him, etc. Tell her where you're going, what you'll be doing, and when you'll be back. Arrange a non-threatening first date: have coffee, go to lunch, go bowling, even go on a double-date with the friend - whatever. In other words, make it very, very difficult for your mother to object.
If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
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If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
I don't know all that information. Frankly, I shouldn't have to tell her all of that. Apart from which friend knows him, she doesn't have to know the other s**t since it's all irrelevant. Besides, mom and grandma are watching TV right now and won't pay attention. I'm starting to think this might not even be worth the effort. I'd go through all that work and he'd just decide that I'm uglier in person and not contact me ever again. I don't even know the guy that well and we only exchanged a few messages on Facebook. His grandma's in the hospital too so he's harder to contact now. He probably doesn't even want to do the date anymore.
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If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
I don't know all that information. Frankly, I shouldn't have to tell her all of that. Apart from which friend knows him, she doesn't have to know the other sh** since it's all irrelevant. Besides, mom and grandma are watching TV right now and won't pay attention. I'm starting to think this might not even be worth the effort. I'd go through all that work and he'd just decide that I'm uglier in person and not contact me ever again. I don't even know the guy that well and we only exchanged a few messages on Facebook. His grandma's in the hospital too so he's harder to contact now. He probably doesn't even want to do the date anymore.
So, what's your point? You shouldn't have to tell her, but if you want to go out with this guy, you'll have to tell her those things. What's your alternative - wait for your mother to change? You've written volumes about how that's not going to happen, so why not work on figuring out an effective way to deal with her? Making her unreasonable demands the focus of your energies isn't exactly getting you out of the house. Whether this guy turns into a bf or not isn't really the point - it's getting your mother used to the idea of you dating.
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If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
I don't know all that information. Frankly, I shouldn't have to tell her all of that. Apart from which friend knows him, she doesn't have to know the other sh** since it's all irrelevant. Besides, mom and grandma are watching TV right now and won't pay attention. I'm starting to think this might not even be worth the effort. I'd go through all that work and he'd just decide that I'm uglier in person and not contact me ever again. I don't even know the guy that well and we only exchanged a few messages on Facebook. His grandma's in the hospital too so he's harder to contact now. He probably doesn't even want to do the date anymore.
So, what's your point? You shouldn't have to tell her, but if you want to go out with this guy, you'll have to tell her those things. What's your alternative - wait for your mother to change? You've written volumes about how that's not going to happen, so why not work on figuring out an effective way to deal with her? Making her unreasonable demands the focus of your energies isn't exactly getting you out of the house. Whether this guy turns into a bf or not isn't really the point - it's getting your mother used to the idea of you dating.
How the hell do I do that? I mean, look at me. I can understand why she believes that I shouldn't be dating. I'm so ugly and unstable that I'll only attract rapists and cheaters.
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If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
Apparently, the young man who's asked you out disagrees with your assessment - listen to him.
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If you want your mom to start treating you like an adult, then you're going to have to show her that you can approach this situation like an adult: give her the information she wants (to show that you understand her concerns), make a plan, and execute it. So get going and make it happen.
Apparently, the young man who's asked you out disagrees with your assessment - listen to him.
I tried arranging a non-threatening meeting already. It fell through. So much work to have it not happen. I lied to my mom saying I was going to be at my friend's house and there wasn't going to be any boys there (she asked) and arranged for my friend to take me there when the guy was going to be there and stuff and everything didn't work out. It was going to work too. I would try it again but she would get suspicious knowing that I'm using the exact same story of "hanging out at my friend's house." >.<
I think HopeGrows has good advice. Perhaps one tactic to try in the way of getting your mother used to the idea of you dating would be to invite him to your place for a family meal? I know that is far from ideal but we're looking for a way to deal with the reality of the situation.
Does he know you have AS? If so, you could explain to him during the invitation that your mother is a bit concerned/overprotective because of your AS.
I'm just brainstorming here.
Does he know you have AS? If so, you could explain to him during the invitation that your mother is a bit concerned/overprotective because of your AS.
I'm just brainstorming here.
Um...isn't it considered poor taste to have someone meet your parents on the first date?
I don't know what my friend told him. He hasn't contacted me for the past few days so he already gave up. He lives 2 hours away so even if we do hit it off, I'd rarely be able to see him anyway. :/
Does he know you have AS? If so, you could explain to him during the invitation that your mother is a bit concerned/overprotective because of your AS.
I'm just brainstorming here.
Um...isn't it considered poor taste to have someone meet your parents on the first date?
I don't know what my friend told him. He hasn't contacted me for the past few days so he already gave up. He lives 2 hours away so even if we do hit it off, I'd rarely be able to see him anyway. :/
It might be considered poor taste under 'normal' circumstances. But let's face it, we Aspies aren't normal -- I'm not ashamed of that (anymore). If he's going to be interested in the long term, then perhaps its best he learns from the start that the 'normal' rules don't apply to us -- as much as we'd like them to.
And btw I 'dated' a girl who was 18 and had a two year old son. Our first date was in fact meeting her father who trusted no guys after his daughter got pregnant at 16. So he insisted on meeting all her dates. Oddly enough, he and I got along splendidly, and I wasn't put off at all by this requirement. Unfortunately for me, she only wanted me to babysit for her two year old son while she ran 'errands' with her real boyfriend, haha. Oh, yeah, an Aspie played hard -- I laugh at that relationship now. In fact, I laugh at a lot ways in which I interpret the world differently than NTs.
Also, I think you should have confidence that this WON'T be the last guy interested in you. In my opinion, the goal you should focus on is that which HopeGrows suggested: Getting your Mom used to the idea of you dating.
