Jelous at not having a girlfriend

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AsteroidNap
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10 Aug 2011, 1:01 pm

auntblabby wrote:

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And sleeping with a prostitute is healthy, dignified, and something he SHOULD write home about? Sorry, but I sense a great discord here.

waking, not sleeping. :hmph:

having sex with an escort at least will be educational, in that he would have a bit more practical knowledge about how to sexually function with a woman, and might be able to avoid fumbling around in the dark. paying a sex worker is straightforward, whereas PUAs are cynical with ulterior motives. not my cup of tea. you are welcome to it, though, more power to you.

I don't know much about this pick up artist scene. What I do know, I've gleaned from comments like those in this thread. To me it seems like a process that can be used for good or ill, like almost anything else in life. Dismissing it entirely as cynical seems rather...uhm..unenlightened if you ask me.

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10 Aug 2011, 8:30 pm

I don't have a girlfriend either & I'm not looking for one right now because I gotta take care of myself first.

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10 Aug 2011, 9:12 pm

kguirnela wrote:

I don't have a girlfriend either & I'm not looking for one right now because I gotta take care of myself first.

I feel the same way.

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11 Aug 2011, 3:18 am

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ok, if it makes you happy, i will be unenlightened for you. i am guilty of using an imprecise word, i should have said "misogynic" which is closer to the truth. getting a woman to bed you by manipulating her thinking using her own psychology, is misogynic. reducing such to a cookbook approach, is cynical. i am not criticising you for defending such, that is way above my pay grade. but if you expect me to believe that PUAs are more about getting a woman to hold hands with you and discuss proust in the park, you must think i have less brains than sea kelp. but you won't hear a peep from me about that. freedom of thought is a good thing.

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11 Aug 2011, 3:20 am

shadowmage wrote:

kguirnela wrote:

I don't have a girlfriend either & I'm not looking for one right now because I gotta take care of myself first.

I feel the same way.

if i didn't take care of me, nobody would.

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11 Aug 2011, 6:53 pm

I've accepted the fact, and thus I'm seldom jealous.

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12 Aug 2011, 6:08 am

your anger is misplaced- i did not call YOU undignified, rather the practice of manipulating other sentient beings to one's own ends, which is unsavory. it doesn't matter which gender does it, it all stinks to heaven. and a woman's only power over me is her body's ability to excite my little head [at least when i was young and priapic], that is all the power they ever had over me. make-up always has been a BIG turnoff for me, as is most feminine fashion. i can tell you are very masculine compared to me.[/quote]
Not really sure how you came to that conclusion, but there's absolutely no anger here at all, boss.

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12 Aug 2011, 8:23 am

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to the OP: becoming a PUA is not something one should write home about.

Or what if you were the boyfriend and a guy was doing this to your girlfriend right in front of you - and, furthermore, he was actually succeeding?

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12 Aug 2011, 8:38 am

You're still young OP. Wait till you're 28, and no girl has ever given you the time of day except when they wanted money.

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12 Aug 2011, 9:18 am

I know what you mean, it is very difficult not to feel envious of others, especially when you are so socially isolated to begin with - as many Aspies are.

I still feel that way, even at my age, I find myself simply trying not to notice others in the first place...

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12 Aug 2011, 6:30 pm

SadAspy wrote:

You're still young OP. Wait till you're 28, and no girl has ever given you the time of day except when they wanted money.

add a few more decades to that, and you'll see it only gets worse until one figures out how to make do without.

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22 Aug 2011, 4:19 pm

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PUA's dont manipulate peoples mind as the girl CHOOSES to go home with them they do not drag her down the street, these people are very smart this is something anyone can have including THOSE with aspergers i live with 10 PUA's i have aspergers bielieve me it isnt about going upto a girl and manipulating her mind i know as i study hard. theres loads of stuff regarding this subject ie: body language, how to talk to people, how to deal with fear and beat it, being radically honest (not easy there is more to it than you think), how to set up and run a successful business, how to be very successful in life, dealing with emotional issues, fitness regimes, how to attract women, seduction, it goes into heavy detail . All this builds you as a person yes we start behind in life but their is nothing we cant quickly get ahead of others in including (finding a girlfriend, having fun in life, making solid friends, get married, being highly successful workwise) but there is something which is required - that is detirmination to succeed and to keep trying harder and harder and building yourself as a person.
One of the PUA's i live with is very very likely to have aspergers he hasnt been diagnosed but all our housemates bielive he has it he brings home women all the time and keeps them.

the meaning of this is just because you have aspergers does not mean you cant be successful aspergers can and will be conquered if you put your mind to it and put the effort in and the results last for life once you obtain them they are yours forever.

if you want to succeed in life and move forward constantly feel free to inbox me i happily give you somewhere to start which will take you on the journey to success as i will happily help others get there as i work my way towards it.

That may be correct as for some PUAs, but I'm fairly sure there are also a good plenty of PUAs and players that purposely mislead the girls and ignore them after having "conquered" them. I believe a good deal of the PUA openers are untruthful stories made to pique womens curiosity and advertise personality traits that may or may not be possessed by the teller. Fair enough, if the PUA is respectful towards a girl and she sincerely chooses to go with him, but it's always risky to play with somebody's emotions.

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22 Aug 2011, 4:23 pm

OP, you are still very young... See what happens within a few more years and try not to stress too much about the matter. There is no need at all for you to compare yourself to your schoolmates, a lot of people are in your position.

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23 Aug 2011, 4:06 pm

I don't understand the hatred of PUA literature here, it's kinda funny. There are good and bad "pick up artists" around, just like there are good and bad anything.

PUA mainly teaches guys with crappy social skills to get better at talking to and relating with women. I've been studying this whole PUA thing, and it's nowhere near as bad as some people make out :lol: .

The only thing I wouldn't advocate, is focusing solely on PUA tactics. The idea is to have some sort of social flair to add to a solid foundation, which would be yourself in all your glory, at the height of your powers (in terms of spirit, vitality, even finance and other trivial measuring sticks)

Apply all the good stuff that you want to augment your personality (including PUA) and hey presto, your power level is over 9000.

(WHAT!? 9000!! !???? THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT!! !! !!)

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23 Aug 2011, 4:17 pm

MountZion wrote:

Apply all the good stuff that you want to augment your personality (including PUA) and hey presto, your power level is over 9000.

(WHAT!? 9000!! !???? THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT!! !! !!)

Is that another one of those DBZ references I don't understand?

BTW, agree with your post - people seem to think that PUA is some kind of "dark art" that makes women do things against their will - it's not, it's just effective marketing...

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23 Aug 2011, 4:24 pm

Grisha wrote:

MountZion wrote:

Apply all the good stuff that you want to augment your personality (including PUA) and hey presto, your power level is over 9000.

(WHAT!? 9000!! !???? THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT!! !! !!)

Agreed, because of all the criticism, I actually did more research (downloaded some Carlos Xuma, his name was popping up, his stuff is great btw), and I've found that it's not near as bad as made out. It's not all roses either, but you get the picture, it's information. Nothing wrong or right about information, just how it is applied.

And yes, it's a DBZ reference :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik[/youtube]

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