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31 Aug 2011, 12:53 pm

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I probably should have stopped using the internet around ten years ago. I would then not have a clue this culture existed and I therefore couldn't react like they existed.


"culture" or lack of it? ;) however I agree with you. Internet is more scary that a thousand Hannibal Lecters.

I will never understand why women fall for these techniques. what is the best defense? spreading rumours about their undoubtedly tiny dicks might be a good idea :D


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31 Aug 2011, 1:12 pm

I am a Dick-Up Artist. Image



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31 Aug 2011, 1:21 pm

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purchase wrote:
I probably should have stopped using the internet around ten years ago. I would then not have a clue this culture existed and I therefore couldn't react like they existed.


"culture" or lack of it? ;) however I agree with you. Internet is more scary that a thousand Hannibal Lecters.

I will never understand why women fall for these techniques. what is the best defense? spreading rumours about their undoubtedly tiny dicks might be a good idea :D


The biggest weak point a pick up a**hole has is his inability to be honest and upfront. What you do is be honest and upfront to him. Ask him questions about what you've been noticing about his behavior. For example "Why do you HAVE to have my attention for?"

or you could play dumb:

"Do you like my friend? You sure do flirt with her alot. I can hook her up with you but if I do that you're going to have to stop playing games with me to get to her...okay?"

or just say:

"I've seen these mind games at play before so could you please just knock it off?"

Ignoring doesn't work. It makes him try new manipulations.

Sometimes you have to work with these pick up a**holes who feel entitled to your vagina and tits. This pick up a**hole could also be married but still feel entitled to your vagina. So just mention his wife often if that is the case. If he proceeds to keep up with his manipulations and you notice he is doing this to alot of women talk about his wife loudly. If he has a picture of her you've seen talk about how pretty she is and how he is such a lucky man.

That might actually piss him off if he is self centered and thinks his wife should feel lucky to have such an awesome man like him.

If you work with this guy and he won't stop, you may have to file harassment report. If he's a well liked person, you may have to find another place to work as they will defend him.



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31 Aug 2011, 3:34 pm

I didnt know pick up artists existed until this year. I am glad I now know what they do, as I will be able to run in the opposite direction if I meet one. Mind games suck.


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31 Aug 2011, 4:01 pm

Yes, women should avoid pick up artists, but I have no sympathy for those who fall into their snares a.k.a. women without any self control. Personal responsibility folks. However I don't want people demonising "Game" outright. The theory itself is not evil, no more evil than make up or push-up bras - and that is the only point - making oneself more attractive.

A lot of blogs devoted to the subject contain a wealth of information about self improvement, it is there the true results are found. Men who use pick up routines without sorting out the basics usually fail hard. Most of the important stuff can be summed up as "stop crying on L&D forum, stop stuffing your face, start working out, get a goddamn job, get out and meet women on a regular basis"

Mew, your last post was ret*d, the only thing you have to do is DON'T SPREAD YOUR LEGS, is that so hard? Are you married? Do you hope to be? If you don't believe women have the faculties to not jump on an attractive guy's crotch after a few hours of witty dialogue, how can you expect the same of your future (current?) husband if he were to come across an attractive willing woman?

Respectable, self assured women who hold themselves to some kind of standard are completely immune to PUA BS, the fact that they are nearly extinct in the West is so depressing...



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31 Aug 2011, 4:28 pm

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im scared


I am scared too, hug me :o.

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31 Aug 2011, 4:50 pm

TheygoMew wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
purchase wrote:
I probably should have stopped using the internet around ten years ago. I would then not have a clue this culture existed and I therefore couldn't react like they existed.


"culture" or lack of it? ;) however I agree with you. Internet is more scary that a thousand Hannibal Lecters.

I will never understand why women fall for these techniques. what is the best defense? spreading rumours about their undoubtedly tiny dicks might be a good idea :D


The biggest weak point a pick up a**hole has is his inability to be honest and upfront. What you do is be honest and upfront to him. Ask him questions about what you've been noticing about his behavior. For example "Why do you HAVE to have my attention for?"

or you could play dumb:

"Do you like my friend? You sure do flirt with her alot. I can hook her up with you but if I do that you're going to have to stop playing games with me to get to her...okay?"

or just say:

"I've seen these mind games at play before so could you please just knock it off?"

Ignoring doesn't work. It makes him try new manipulations.

Sometimes you have to work with these pick up a**holes who feel entitled to your vagina and tits. This pick up a**hole could also be married but still feel entitled to your vagina. So just mention his wife often if that is the case. If he proceeds to keep up with his manipulations and you notice he is doing this to alot of women talk about his wife loudly. If he has a picture of her you've seen talk about how pretty she is and how he is such a lucky man.

That might actually piss him off if he is self centered and thinks his wife should feel lucky to have such an awesome man like him.

If you work with this guy and he won't stop, you may have to file harassment report. If he's a well liked person, you may have to find another place to work as they will defend him.


Apart from a PUA you might work with, I'm not sure why ignoring him, or telling him bluntly to leave you alone, doesn't work. You say he just tries new manipulations, but if you're ignoring him...as in cut out of your life completely, how is he still able to manipulate? Sorry for my ignorance on the subject.


As to your point about entitlement, it reminded me of this sickening, sad story of this girl murdered in Massachusetts because the guy couldn't take no for an answer:

Huffington Post Story Link



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31 Aug 2011, 5:26 pm

"You can candy coat a turd, but in the end it's still a piece of s**t." - Me


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31 Aug 2011, 5:29 pm

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"You can candy coat a turd, but in the end it's still a piece of sh**." - Me


What a horrible thing to say about women who wear make-up.



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31 Aug 2011, 5:30 pm

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"You can candy coat a turd, but in the end it's still a piece of sh**." - Me


What a horrible thing to say about women who wear make-up.


:lol:

I was talking about PUA techniques.


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31 Aug 2011, 5:32 pm

:wink: This is the part where you explain how the two are different.



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31 Aug 2011, 5:34 pm

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:wink: This is the part where you explain how the two are different.


I won't. I am morally against make-up. I, however, don't talk about it because I've found most people think I'm a bit extreme in this area and can get offended. :)


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31 Aug 2011, 5:50 pm

Those "pickup artists" seem to gain self esteem over the amount of "successful" dates they have had. So in other words, they are low on self esteem for as long as they need to do this? I don't see why other guys want to become like them, there is no love in their lifes, it all becomes some technical game they play.

I was also reading about their tactics before, until I realized how much of a loser I would be to apply them.

But on the other side, from a male perspective:
- getting no replies to perfectly fine messages
- getting messages from weird fake accounts
- etc...

All this stuff is very frustrating, and then it can become tempting to learn these tactics, because they seem to work for some people.



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31 Aug 2011, 5:59 pm

two words, f**k off.



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31 Aug 2011, 6:01 pm

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There is no need for capitalization for these guys. No matter how they sugar coat it or have their chosen word heroes that word things carefully, underneath it all, what they are basically saying is that they are entitled to controlling you and manipulating you.

Women, look out for the warning signs of a pick up a**hole. There is no art in their tactics just men who believe women are objects and can't bring themselves to ask a woman out. Instead they believe women should just fawn over them and if there is one woman out of the bunch the pick up artist is really targeting, he thinks his tactics are GOING TO WORK as in entitlement issues to your vagina.

Learn the signs.

1. Hot and cold treatment. One day ignores you. Another day is getting close to you and talking to you. (This is manipulation.)
2. He likes to be in control. You may notice that he understands the timing of when you arrive somewhere so he uses this time to manipulate you further.
3. Suddenly, all other women hate you as he's playing games with them too.
4. If you have to be around this pick up a**hole and there comes time for more days where you won't see him around like holiday, he will do stuff he thinks might upset you before that break. He hopes to hurt you so that you will think about him.
5. After the break, he's being nice again.

He'll come up with other ways of hurting you...oops I mean being skillfull at this so called "art".

This won't stop until you break all ties with the pick up a**hole.

This may have you baffled at first but whatever you do, do not go along with it at all. When you start noticing the warning signs you have to tell him boldly "I am under the impression you are into mind games and you really need to knock it off."

If he refuses then you'll have to come up with your own plan B.

These types of men don't really understand women but have decided that all women want a jerk. They also fear rejection and resort to these immature games to cover it up. These men are not a good catch. May have considered themselves good nice men not understanding that there is a difference between a nice guy and a creepy whiner.

They blame women for everything. Women are to blame also over feminism which they have distorted into meaning "being a man". These men don't view of women as human beings but blow up dolls with no rights.

Some of these men see a pretty woman and instantly have made up their minds that it is their duty to torture her because she must have had an easy life.

Women, these guys will also cheat on you. It turns into an addiction they must defend. Nothing good about these guys at all. If you see this unfolding before your eyes, stay strong, don't budge and the females that are being mean to you over this man have fallen for his games.

Ladies, men don't understand why we are more defensive than them. Men lack the empathy to understand our defenses. They don't fear being taken advantage of like women do or they claim that they do understand and then they say some remark like "Gold diggers" meanwhile the women they want are perfect models as if they are entitled to just perfect models. Women also play games and from what I've noticed, both women and men who resort to these abusive tactics usually have a personality disorder.

Some men who are shy and tired of being shy fall into this trap of thinking this is acceptable behavior but it's not. Then they get sucked into hating women and treating them like sh**.
serioiusly f**k off, I am tired of all this negative BS on here. :?



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31 Aug 2011, 6:31 pm

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I won't. I am morally against make-up. I, however, don't talk about it because I've found most people think I'm a bit extreme in this area and can get offended. :)


Aha well in that case you are probably the only one in this thread with the moral precision to judge those pick-up artist scoundrels! I withdraw my snide remarks!