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07 Sep 2011, 9:02 pm

The important thing is to translate these into what the guy really means.

hale_bopp wrote:
"I like a fit healthy girl who looks after herself" - translates into "f*ck off, fatty"


Actual translation: "I'm still so caught up in my adolescent fantasy that (insert supermodel name here) will actually date me, I turn down everyone else. And I'm nasty about it, because they ought to know I'm saving myself for her."

hale_bopp wrote:
"You aren't that great looking"


This one has several possible translations. See above, or below.

hale_bopp wrote:
"I can get way hotter than you - you're mud/dirt/filth in the looks department"


Translation: "I want everyone to think I can get someone way hotter than you. In reality, I'm still a virgin, never even kissed a girl, and I'm afraid if you got half a second to figure out what a loser I am, you'd dump me. So, to protect my illusions, and keep up the pretense, no thanks."

hale_bopp wrote:
"You're good enough for a root, but I won't date you"


Translation: "I'm such an arrogant jerk, I don't care who I trample as long as I can pretend I have impossibly high standards. In reality, I have to pretend, because after all, no sane woman would stick around me for long."

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You'd be very surprised at how commonly these are used. I've had all of these used against me by males, aspie and not. :lol: :lol:


There are a lot of guys who are jerks, although we're not all that way. And I've had women put me down just as painfully, and worse. ("You look like an abortion that lived." "You're a ret*d. Why would I go out with you?" "Ewww" *screamed loudly, in public*) But once I figured out that if that was an example of their personality, I was really much better off not getting involved with them, I was much happier. If someone can't manage to at least avoid going out of their way to be hurtful in a situation like this, spending time with them would be a far more unpleasant experience than I'd care to endure. So what they've just done is advertised, loudly, "I'm a jerk. I'm not worth dating, because you'd rather spend time at your dentist getting a root canal than hang out with me." :lol:


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07 Sep 2011, 9:16 pm

theWanderer wrote:
The important thing is to translate these into what the guy really means.

hale_bopp wrote:
"I like a fit healthy girl who looks after herself" - translates into "f*ck off, fatty"


Actual translation: "I'm still so caught up in my adolescent fantasy that (insert supermodel name here) will actually date me, I turn down everyone else. And I'm nasty about it, because they ought to know I'm saving myself for her."


Seems accurate.

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Translation: "I want everyone to think I can get someone way hotter than you. In reality, I'm still a virgin, never even kissed a girl, and I'm afraid if you got half a second to figure out what a loser I am, you'd dump me. So, to protect my illusions, and keep up the pretense, no thanks."


For this one, that's not the case. I was told that by two guys who can actually get really hot girls. I wasn't trying to hit on them either.

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There are a lot of guys who are jerks, although we're not all that way. And I've had women put me down just as painfully, and worse. ("You look like an abortion that lived." "You're a ret*d. Why would I go out with you?" "Ewww" *screamed loudly, in public*) But once I figured out that if that was an example of their personality, I was really much better off not getting involved with them, I was much happier. If someone can't manage to at least avoid going out of their way to be hurtful in a situation like this, spending time with them would be a far more unpleasant experience than I'd care to endure. So what they've just done is advertised, loudly, "I'm a jerk. I'm not worth dating, because you'd rather spend time at your dentist getting a root canal than hang out with me." :lol:


It's fine. I was just taking the piss out of boo's thread with this.



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07 Sep 2011, 9:33 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
For this one, that's not the case. I was told that by two guys who can actually get really hot girls. I wasn't trying to hit on them either.


I don't know; I obviously wasn't there. :) But, just like the guys who really are tough enough to take on a tank don't need to go around boasting about how tough they are, guys who really can get hot girls don't need to put other people down. Especially if you weren't hitting on them - and even then, if they were that great, they could have afforded to be kind - they had no reason to say something like this except in an attempt to prove how great they are. And the ones who have to try to prove it, aren't. So it seems to me they know something about themselves you may not. :wink: Maybe that's just that the really hot girls run away pretty quickly once they figure out what jerks these guys are. If that's the case, they're presumably stupid, too, since they haven't managed to figure out what their problem is. Whatever it is, you're the one who can do better. (And I'm not trying to hit on you, just to be clear; I'm older, and married. So I'm an impartial commentator.)


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07 Sep 2011, 9:34 pm

Thanx for opening this thread! Now, here's some of the things I know about men...

What a man says --> What he really means

"I like a woman who appreciates traditional values." --> I want the house clean, the laundry done, the kids quiet, and food on the table when I get home ... and I don't want to hear any bullsnot about having a "headache" tonight, either.

"Anything you wear is fine." --> Just put something on already! I'm gonna be scoping out the other women there, anyway...

"Yes, I think your sister's cute." --> I'd do that piece in a heartbeat. Scha-WANG!! !

"The kids are fine; don't worry!" --> I'm vaguely aware of the presence of some small people around here; but since I don't hear any blood-curdling screams, everything must be okay.

"It's a guy thing." --> It involves sweat, bruises, splinters, blood, alcohol, power tools, and the strong possibility of projectile vomiting.

Oh, geebus ... I'm such a hater! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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07 Sep 2011, 9:50 pm

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07 Sep 2011, 9:53 pm

theWanderer wrote:
The important thing is to translate these into what the guy really means.

hale_bopp wrote:
"I like a fit healthy girl who looks after herself" - translates into "f*ck off, fatty"


Actual translation: "I'm still so caught up in my adolescent fantasy that (insert supermodel name here) will actually date me, I turn down everyone else. And I'm nasty about it, because they ought to know I'm saving myself for her."

hale_bopp wrote:
"You aren't that great looking"


This one has several possible translations. See above, or below.

hale_bopp wrote:
"I can get way hotter than you - you're mud/dirt/filth in the looks department"


Translation: "I want everyone to think I can get someone way hotter than you. In reality, I'm still a virgin, never even kissed a girl, and I'm afraid if you got half a second to figure out what a loser I am, you'd dump me. So, to protect my illusions, and keep up the pretense, no thanks."

hale_bopp wrote:
"You're good enough for a root, but I won't date you"


Translation: "I'm such an arrogant jerk, I don't care who I trample as long as I can pretend I have impossibly high standards. In reality, I have to pretend, because after all, no sane woman would stick around me for long."

hale_bopp wrote:
You'd be very surprised at how commonly these are used. I've had all of these used against me by males, aspie and not. :lol: :lol:


There are a lot of guys who are jerks, although we're not all that way. And I've had women put me down just as painfully, and worse. ("You look like an abortion that lived." "You're a ret*d. Why would I go out with you?" "Ewww" *screamed loudly, in public*) But once I figured out that if that was an example of their personality, I was really much better off not getting involved with them, I was much happier. If someone can't manage to at least avoid going out of their way to be hurtful in a situation like this, spending time with them would be a far more unpleasant experience than I'd care to endure. So what they've just done is advertised, loudly, "I'm a jerk. I'm not worth dating, because you'd rather spend time at your dentist getting a root canal than hang out with me." :lol:


I guess that since I say the above bolded phrases a lot, i'm a jerk, just more honest about it...



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07 Sep 2011, 10:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
Thanx for opening this thread! Now, here's some of the things I know about men...

What a man says --> What he really means

"I like a woman who appreciates traditional values." --> I want the house clean, the laundry done, the kids quiet, and food on the table when I get home ... and I don't want to hear any bullsnot about having a "headache" tonight, either.

"Anything you wear is fine." --> Just put something on already! I'm gonna be scoping out the other women there, anyway...

"Yes, I think your sister's cute." --> I'd do that piece in a heartbeat. Scha-WANG!! !

"The kids are fine; don't worry!" --> I'm vaguely aware of the presence of some small people around here; but since I don't hear any blood-curdling screams, everything must be okay.

"It's a guy thing." --> It involves sweat, bruises, splinters, blood, alcohol, power tools, and the strong possibility of projectile vomiting.

Oh, geebus ... I'm such a hater! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:? it's the same thing when you post about men. there was more of an effort to be funny here though. the one in the other thread had a completely different tone.


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08 Sep 2011, 12:50 am

hale_bopp wrote:
"I like a fit healthy girl who looks after herself" - translates into "f*ck off, fatty"

"You aren't that great looking"

"I can get way hotter than you - you're mud/dirt/filth in the looks department"

"You're good enough for a root, but I won't date you"

You'd be very surprised at how commonly these are used. I've had all of these used against me by males, aspie and not. :lol: :lol:


I've gotten "Maybe it's because I'm used to dating younger women..." Mind you, this was not the turn down, this was added on after the turn down, and I was only 27.



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08 Sep 2011, 12:58 am

Cant believe you forgot my favourite one:
"You just arent going out to the right places to meet guys".

This one´s flexibility is impressive, if a female is looking for someone at a pub they should start looking elsewhere because they dont want to have a one night stand, if said female is going to another place someone will point her out that she should be looking at a pub.


As with the male shaming tactic it may be true for some females but most of the times its overused.


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08 Sep 2011, 2:02 am

Mindslave wrote:
You know, what's sad is that when I saw the thread titled "Shaming tactics against males" I immediately knew it was written by The_Face_Of_Boo before I looked at it. When I saw this thread, I immediately knew it was written by hale_bopp. Draw whatever conclusions you want from that. You can get mad at me all you want, but many people probably thought the same thing before looking at these two threads. I'm just the one that came out and said it.


I am not sure what all that was supposed to mean...

But next time, if you see a thread titled "Shaming tactics against hermaphrodites", then you should know it's written by The_Face_of_bopp, our dear child.



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08 Sep 2011, 2:27 am

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Mindslave wrote:
You know, what's sad is that when I saw the thread titled "Shaming tactics against males" I immediately knew it was written by The_Face_Of_Boo before I looked at it. When I saw this thread, I immediately knew it was written by hale_bopp. Draw whatever conclusions you want from that. You can get mad at me all you want, but many people probably thought the same thing before looking at these two threads. I'm just the one that came out and said it.


I am not sure what all that was supposed to mean...

But next time, if you see a thread titled "Shaming tactics against hermaphrodites", then you should know it's written by The_Face_of_bopp, our dear child.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



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08 Sep 2011, 8:21 am

Those are horrible things to say to anybody. And if they are gonna date you just based on your looks those guys are not very smart / mature. I was always so worried about hurting other people's feelings when I was dating, that I even refused to date a guy I liked a lot just because I was only attracted to him physically but I knew we could not work intellectually. I get surprised how people do not care hurting other people's feelings. I mean, we read everyday about people killing themselves because they cannot stand the jokes, the gossip, the bullying, but apparently people do not care about it.



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08 Sep 2011, 8:34 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Thanx for opening this thread! Now, here's some of the things I know about men...

What a man says --> What he really means

"I like a woman who appreciates traditional values." --> I want the house clean, the laundry done, the kids quiet, and food on the table when I get home ... and I don't want to hear any bullsnot about having a "headache" tonight, either.

"Anything you wear is fine." --> Just put something on already! I'm gonna be scoping out the other women there, anyway...

"Yes, I think your sister's cute." --> I'd do that piece in a heartbeat. Scha-WANG!! !

"The kids are fine; don't worry!" --> I'm vaguely aware of the presence of some small people around here; but since I don't hear any blood-curdling screams, everything must be okay.

"It's a guy thing." --> It involves sweat, bruises, splinters, blood, alcohol, power tools, and the strong possibility of projectile vomiting.

Oh, geebus ... I'm such a hater! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:? it's the same thing when you post about men. there was more of an effort to be funny here though. the one in the other thread had a completely different tone.

The shoe always has a different fit when it's tried on the other foot.


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08 Sep 2011, 8:43 am

My shoe size can change from 39 to 50 (europe's measure) , depending on how horny I am.....



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08 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

Fnord wrote:
The shoe always has a different fit when it's tried on the other foot.

so you are saying that the tone of this:

Fnord wrote:
"My Baby Needs a Daddy": There are several variants of this one. SOME women will follow a strategy of mating with an "alpha male" (e.g., say a gang member), have his child, then look around for a more stable man who can support her and Alpha's genetic heritage. And there are enough sensitive, loving, caring (aka, desperate) men out there who are willing to change the diapers if it means they can get any kind of female attention. So, if she mentions kids - especially her kids - your alarm bells should go off, warning you to put some distance between yourself and this opportunistic manipulator..


is the same as this?
Fnord wrote:
"I like a woman who appreciates traditional values." --> I want the house clean, the laundry done, the kids quiet, and food on the table when I get home ... and I don't want to hear any bullsnot about having a "headache" tonight, either.


one was intended to be funny about men, and the other was intended to give a warning about specific groups of women. they are not the same at all. and i don't remember saying that either form of sexism was ok anyway.


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08 Sep 2011, 8:58 am

Fnord wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Thanx for opening this thread! Now, here's some of the things I know about men...

What a man says --> What he really means

"I like a woman who appreciates traditional values." --> I want the house clean, the laundry done, the kids quiet, and food on the table when I get home ... and I don't want to hear any bullsnot about having a "headache" tonight, either.

"Anything you wear is fine." --> Just put something on already! I'm gonna be scoping out the other women there, anyway...

"Yes, I think your sister's cute." --> I'd do that piece in a heartbeat. Scha-WANG!! !

"The kids are fine; don't worry!" --> I'm vaguely aware of the presence of some small people around here; but since I don't hear any blood-curdling screams, everything must be okay.

"It's a guy thing." --> It involves sweat, bruises, splinters, blood, alcohol, power tools, and the strong possibility of projectile vomiting.

Oh, geebus ... I'm such a hater! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:? it's the same thing when you post about men. there was more of an effort to be funny here though. the one in the other thread had a completely different tone.

The shoe always has a different fit when it's tried on the other foot.


Probably because your feet curve in different directions... or bunions!? :wink: :P